Guess who said "I never liked Star Trek"?

[Deja Q]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/may/07/jj-abrams-interview-star-trek

http://adambuckman.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/jj-abrams-dreamy-interview-with-charlie-rose/


Then don't fuck around with it.

That's it. I'm going into movies and TV. I'm going to take 'Friends' and turn it into what I want it to be and piss on the intentions of those who actually created it. Who needs creativity when existing trademarks just need to be cleansed and shinied up for "modern audiences". Fuck the creator of "Friends" and not in the good way. What the hell, I'll do the same for 'Survivor' and every other modern show -- warp it but keep the same trademarks and shove 'em at the masses, but keep the names regardless of how little they have to do with the actual works.

[blogslut]

1. Some of the best beef dishes I've ever eaten

...were prepared by vegetarians.

Is the new Star Trek the greatest Star Trek EVAR? No.

Is the newest Star Trek an enjoyable film? Yes.

I bristled when TNG first aired. I thought it was a bastardization of my beloved original. I got over it and learned to accept it. The same goes for the other incarnations.

Ultimately, it's just a movie.

[RoyGBiv]

2. I'll say this ...

His method of opening up the future of sequels to this particular Trek universe is both brilliant and infuriating. He basically used Trek canon against itself to obviate the need of any future scripts to adhere to any sort of storyline.

That's fine, I guess. Comic book characters have been known to go through this a lot so that one competing set of ideas can be played out instead of another, but in the absurd world of Hollywood this could conceivably lead to a Star Trek vs Star Wars vs Alien vs Predator sequel.

It's actually a good movie in and of itself, but it plays hell with the Star Trek story so much that I don't think it's fair to call it Star Trek. It becomes merely a matter of, as you say, trademarks and makes me far too aware of the money angle involved in it all.

[wickerwoman]

6. I'd pay to see Star Trek TNG vs. Alien

But yeah, I was groaning in the theater with the whole "alternate dimension" thing.

I'm happy to let it sit as it's own little side thing as long as it keep dishing up decent stories.

I think the weakest part of the movie was the time traveling Romulan "red matter" stuff which is classic Trek they should have left behind.

After about two thirds of the movie it felt like "OK, they've introduced everyone, what's this about Romulans now and why am I supposed to care?"

I do give them props for not having a "trial of Spock" scene to determine if he was fit to be captain.

[NYCGirl]

3. Was Nick Meyer a fan before he got involved with the franchise? NT

[PunkinPi]

4. He discussed it on Jimmy Kimmel too,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooPXNec5Jd8

[Rabrrrrrr]

5. And it shows in the utter contempt he shows the series in this "movie".

I laughed my ass off at the end of the credits when it says "Dedicated in loving memory to Gene Roddenberry and Majel Barret-Roddenberry".

I thought, "Wow, if that's how you dedicate something to someone, I pray to God you don't dedicate anything to me".


It's redoing the statue of David, except instead of making it a statue, you make it a print on paper, made out of phlegm and semen, and it's a picture of a 600 pound obese slob in underwear squeezing out a turd on the Virgin Mary, and then saying "In loving dedication to Michelangelo".

[SoxFan]

8. Dude, Chill out. Let me getr you a drink. Have some dip.

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[Rabrrrrrr]

10. Funny how you only despise it when people have an opinion contrary to yours.

If I were praising the movie, would you have the same aversion to my "attempt" to "convert", or is your logic as solely one-sided as it appears to be?

I don't understand how one person who is supposed to be a progressive can be such a dick and hate somebody because they hold an opinion that doesn't meet THEIR standard.

:eyes:

Jesus, I'm not trying to convert anyone. I'm stating an opinion. As we all do here. It's a political forum - it's a place for people to offer their opinions.

I'm sorry you are so incapable of understanding that not everyone thinks like you, and that they aren't, ipso facto, dicks just because of it.

Christ.

[DainBramaged]

11. I still enjoy your poetry however.

:smoke: (just kidding, having browser problems today, intermittent connections)


Listen, I am passionate about my livelihood, but entertainment is subjective. And from the looks of things, ST will bust 100 million this weekend EASY. SO goes the purity of the franchise.

[Orrex]

7. Yeah, and each performance of Hamlet has been exactly the same for 400 years

:evilgrin:

[kentauros]

12. I think you have something there.

Seriously, you should get some backing and start writing. But, don't start with Friends. Although it's popular mainstream and fairly recent fluff, you need something that most people really know and that would work well to "updating": M*A*S*H :D

You can put it in the Iraq war, since like Korea in the original M*A*S*H, the war has gone on long after it was supposed to end and you could make fun of all the soldiers and call it entertainment. Of course, that would mean working with Fox and Murdoch, but all we're talking about here is entertainment, so you're damned to deal with the devil no matter how you slice it :P