I'm a Mac

[MrScorpio]

You?

[piratefish08]

1. ditto - Mac.

PC people would answer this thread if they weren't all too busy running virus scans to be able to visit the Lounge tonight.................

[Mythsaje]

5. No...we do it when we're asleep.

And the only reason there aren't more Mac viruses is because they're not important enough to bother with. :evilgrin:

[BlueJazz]

7. You're confusing PC and Windows. (not the same thing)

[hobbit709]

23. True

That makes me a Ubuntu or a Mandriva or a BeOS. Hell, I've even got an old DOS machine that still works.
Amazing what xcopy will let you do sometimes.

[hobbit709]

26. I let my machine take care of mundane tasks.

I've had 1 virus in the last 10 years. And I hit the warez/crack sites a lot. Of course, my system security is screwed down pretty tight.
Better to have tight security than to have the MISTAKEN assumption that you are safe just because you have a Mac. ANY computer that connects to the outside is inherently vulnerable, whether you have a Mac, a Winblows, or a Linux machine.

[pokerfan]

58. Steve Ballmer on security

"If I can say nothing else I can say that I think we've learned a lot more about security than basically anybody in the world!"

http://news.zdnet.com/2422-13568_22-153879.html

:rofl:

[RoyGBiv]

64. He needs to lay off the crack ...

It's bad for him.

[pokerfan]

68. A crack habit would explain a lot, actually

Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc

[RoyGBiv]

69. I know what that is ...

... without even clicking the link. :)

He actually makes me feel sympathy for MS employees.

[SeattleGirl]

2. And I'm a PC

:P

[Broken_Hero]

3. I'm a

Kal-el.....


:D

[krispos42]

14. Ah, Nick Cage is your father?

:D

[Broken_Hero]

15. ..............

Jor-el is my father, don't ever invoke the Nic Cage name on me again, or else!

[krispos42]

17. Nah, I find Nick Cage to be much more likely

Hey, you'll get a share of the Coppola family fortune now!

[Broken_Hero]

20. Thats it...

You are toast...Superman doesn't need any $...


:hide:

[krispos42]

21. Hey, you ever read this?

"Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex"

http://www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html

:rofl:

[Broken_Hero]

22. Jesus...

its very simple really...Red Sun lightbulbs solve that whole issue.

eta:that reminds me, I need to run to Lowe's and pick up another 6 pack of Red Sun lightbulbs.

[hobbit709]

24. One of the best Larry Niven short stories ever.

[Mythsaje]

4. PC

Macs are too damn expensive.

[LeftyMom]

6. I am a human being. I happen to own a computer. It is a tool, not the wellspring of my identity.

:D

[Pierre.Suave]

9. Well, aren't you special...

:P

[kentauros]

16. I've been trying to get that through to people for ages!

They still don't get the concept.


Of course, I'd still like to have a Cray, but I seem to recall the Japanese built a supercomputer the size of a warehouse, so I'm not sure which supertool I want now

[Deja Q]

29. Yeah, but the PC plays games! Macs can't, donchaknow?

:rofl:

I too am a human being, own a computer, have sexual desires. They're tools, and are not the wellspring of my identity. :D :D

[petronius]

71. I'm a PCHondaCanonboxersGapKrupps

All of my identity comes from stuff... :silly:

[BlueJazz]

8. I can run LOTS of Operating Systems on my PC.

[no name no slogan]

40. I can run lots on my Mac, too

Including Windows. Can your PC run OS X? :)

[BlueJazz]

62. It can but it doesn't want to.

:)

[RoyGBiv]

63. Win!

:thumbsup:

[no name no slogan]

66. Probably because Vista is so superior in every way shape and form, right?

[BlueJazz]

70. Not hardly...I "Tested" Vista and knew that it was something that I would never upgrade to.

Windows "7" on the other hand, is actually pretty damn nice.

I use my imac for video and Pc for Audio/studio stuff.

[TreasonousBastard]

10. I'm the guy who will shove that Mac up your ass if I hear...

one more word about it.

[Deja Q]

30. Mac

Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac


:spray:

[JTG of the PRB]

11. ...and I'm a PC.

[pokerfan]

12. I'm neither

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eTguZ5OzJ4

[kentauros]

18. Get a CRAY

:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5RwZz9UPUs

[Deja Q]

31. George W Bush needs a CRAY

ON.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl2Otdmx46U

And a bonus song!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIVBz3NX194

[krispos42]

13. I'm a PC with a 5-year-old installation of XP

**crossesfingers**

[PBS Poll-435]

19. I am a PC w/ xp x64

Always stable, never disappointing.

[hobbit709]

25. Works fine, lasts a long time. Don't fuck with it is my attitude.

[Deja Q]

28. Wow. I've read Vista x64 was more stable, had more driver support, and multimedia support...

Vista is rather bloaty, but nothing's perfect...

[PBS Poll-435]

47. I have used XP since it came out

Damn that has been a long time. After I decided that I needed more than 2GB of memory, I looked at x64.

The only issue I have EVER had was that there was not a driver available for my dirt cheap laser printer.



Other than that? Sweet.

[Deja Q]

27. I am two Macs... and a PC running Ubuntu, that I need to convert from EXT3 to EXT4...

I am no longer Windows. I took an Apple and a Jackalope and busted through the mess.

[Sultana]

32. Mac Chick

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[baldguy]

34. .

[av8rdave]

35. I'm a Mac

The PC may be customizable, but fast? :rofl:

The poor quality and intrusiveness of the OS is too much for me.

[pokerfan]

37. The OS is one of the things that's customizable

[no name no slogan]

41. You can run Linux on Mac hardware, if you desire. You can also run Windows, too

If you have an Intel-based Mac (anything made since 2006), you can run Windows, Linux or just about any flavor of Unix you can imagine as long as it runs on Intel hardware.

However, you can't run OS X on most PCs.

[pokerfan]

42. Didn't mean to slight Mac users

I was replying to av8rdave who said that PC's are customizable but the OS bogs it down. I was merely pointing out how that can be remedied.

No offense was intended.

[no name no slogan]

43. Oh, no worries. I did think it was a slight

If you have enough time and/or resources, any machine running any OS is customizable. It just depends on what you want to do.

I myself used to build my own PCs ten years ago, back when I had time, but these days I'm just as happy getting a low-end Mac for day to day stuff, and a high-end one for bigger stuff. I work with PCs (mostly servers) all day at work, and the last thing I want to do after work is screw around with them. :)

[av8rdave]

55. Actually, I have to run XP on a partition on my Mac

I have to admit, on the mac, it runs FAST. But it's still windows.

I probably don't qualify as a "power user." Pretty much anything I need to do, I can get done on my Mac. What I like best is, I boot it up (doesn't take long at all), get my stuff done, and shut it down. I never have to troubleshoot.

[Deja Q]

44. And, possible while it is, I wouldn't rely on it either.

Hacking OS X to run on generic hardware...

:D

[no name no slogan]

67. You can already run Darwin on any Intel chipset

But you'd have to run another windowing system on top of it. 'Course, if you're doing that, why not just run FreeBSD instead?

[Moondog]

36. On my third Mac

Was forced to do PeeCees during my working life. Said goodbye to that, and hello to Macs. When I think of all the time I wasted .....

[Tikki]

38. I am a Mac, also....

Whole dang house is Mac'd...


Tikki

[Deja Q]

39. I'm a Mac AND a PC. I'm bi...

nary.

:spray:

[Xipe Totec]

45. I'm a Mex

Oh, you mean computers?

Never met a computer I liked.

I tolerate PCs, Linux. Haven't touched an Apple in 10 years.

Mostly because I prefer to build my own, and Apple is pretty finicky about letting it's OS free-range.

[Deja Q]

46. If Apple released its OS to all...

Everyone would write shite drivers for it and Apple would get blamed.

Apple is being true to itself and maintaining responsibility.

Microsoft can "defer responsibility" to everyone else; from driver all the way down to customer level. It's too costly for them to do. They will tell customers to find the PC vendor, who will in turn tell them to contact Microsoft...

Even for software apps, Microsoft is very lax on bugs that affect their customers.

They're not worth their money.

[Xipe Totec]

50. That's 180 degrees away from their original strategy

They were an open system before they closed it.

IBM was an open system before they closed it too (OS2).

Look where they ended up.

I'm not interested in doing business with a company that follows such policies.

[Deja Q]

54. OS2 was rubbish, that's why it failed. I loved the "System Input Queue" (SIQ).

It was easy to get the OS to stop receiving keyboard input and mouse clicks even though it still ran. The SIQ processed input serially, so if one process hogged the SIQ and got stuck, nothing else could use it.

[Droopy]

48. I've never owned a Mac and

I don't understand what makes a PC with Windows so undesireable to some people. I built a PC five years ago and put XP on it and never had a problem. The thing never locked up or crashed and did everything I wanted it to do. I'd still be using it, but I needed a laptop. I gave the XP machine to a buddy and he's using it to back up files. My laptop has the 64 bit version of Vista on it and it works fine. It does everything I want it to do and doesn't crash or lock up. I've never had a virus on either machine.

So, what's the deal?

[Deja Q]

65. I was a user of Windows since 3.0. So I think I'm a wee bit qualified to give you a worthy response

:D

1. Windows 3.x had a limited size stack; end users wanted to run lots of programs... the stack runs out, they get b.s. memory errors, and the techs are blamed. (not MS, the poor saps who support MS's rubbish product.)

2. Windows 3.x ran on top of DOS. Knowing batch files to start the thing came in handy...

3. As did memory managers, becuase DOS and Windows on their own stunk.

4. Windows 95 brought the registry. This united the INI files. This also made backups of the OS more difficult (and reinstalls were a pain with only 15 or so diskettes compared to the Amiga or Mac's... 2 diskettes... so if that doesn't adumbrate how hoggy Windows has been since day 1, nothing can...)

5. The registry is easily corrupted.

6. Delete or clean up the registry and it won't compact itself. This causes slowness over time.

7. Windows file systems (FAT, FAT32, and worst of them NTFS) are not journaled and write what they want where they want. This KILLS disk access times.

8a. Vista 64-bit, on a 4GB system, uses just about half the available memory for itself -- and doesn't even tell you what RAM is used for what function. OS X, Linux, et al, use a quarter of that by default and you are told what is used where and why. Even a 2GB system will, in the real world, strain Vista fairly quickly.

8b. Microsoft and others say "unused RAM is wasted RAM". On systems that are 2GB or less, people won't notice the lie. On 3GB or higher systems, once Windows is done filling its face, it will not bother to use the remaining system RAM. On a 8GB machine, 64-bit Vista will not touch that 6GB of available physical RAM space.

8c. I've posted a few times Microsoft's "minimum requirements" for their NT-based OSes (NT4, Windows 2000, XP, Vista), followed by their real-life minimums because Microsoft is stoned or drunk or braindead or something as hundreds of reviews will also prove (about RAM usage), followed by real life "sweet spot" amounts. They have held up true since NT 4 and I suspect the trend will continue. :(

9. C:\Windows\Prefetch caches frequently used documents. It never gets cleaned up on its own. After a while, slowness and instability can occur.

10. Back to file systems, Windows creates a small lnk file for every IE "favorite". A 20kb file takes up 512kb through 2094kb depending on cluster size. This is grossly inefficient. This is also typical Microsoft.

11. Microsoft "delegates" (read "shifts") driver responsibility to manufacturers of computers, peripheral cards, et al. If ATi makes a flaky video driver, will you blame ATi or Microsoft? If ATi's video driver interferes with components from another peripheral...

12. Microsoft is more known for copying or buying than it is really developing.

13a. Microsoft makes beta testers out of its customers. Even for "gold" (shrinkwrap/released product) code.

13b. Tell Microsoft about a bug and they'll likely say to wait for the next version to see it fixed. I know, I found a bug for Expression Media (formerly iView Media Pro) and that's what they did. By the time a service pack came out, I didn't bother to test. I moved to Adobe LightRoom - a genuine, professional product sold and maintained by real professionals.

14. Microsoft often hypes new features into its OS but then never delivers -- Vista alone ditched "WinFS", amongst others, and Microsoft (as say some) didn't follow through on "Windows Ultimate Extras".

15. Microsoft also promises big features and then underdelivers. Many people felt suckered by DirectX 10 and Flight Simulator X and the images MS sent out. K-R-A-F-T makes cheese. Microsoft arguably makes F-R-A-U-D.

It's strange, I'm not bored yet...

16a. Back in the OS/2 days, when a judge told Microsoft to make Windows 3 work under IBM's OS/2, they played lots of tricks and gave paltry excuses to break the code. Win32s is the trick in question.

16b. Given emulators from back then onward, it almost makes sense that every new Windows version is a real bloat: They don't want people running virtual machines. Thankfully, Vista caught them off guard and, despite their own mewling about wanting people to get off of XP, Microsoft was compelled to support it.

17a. Microsoft often says, for news article reports, that "Microsoft ____ OS will make or break us." Well, it's been 6 or 7 versions - how come they're not all broke and living under the gutter yet?

17b. I think it was BYTE magazine: Microsoft's own ad for Windows 2000 used Windows 95 as a sacrificial lamb; laughing up how this new version, unlike its predecessor, was stable. How many companies can get away with this and survive? They admit to selling a crap product, and then use it as a crutch for a new product to get ahead with.

17c. Windows 98 and XP crashed in front of their dimwitted demonstrators at national release events. I remember October 25th, 2001, when Windows Movie Maker crashed the OS. It no longer crashes the OS, but all the other usability bugs are still there and my company refuses to support any end user or client with questions on that app. (In 2008 I got to work with it and the usual issues were still there, ugh...)

18. Install a BIOS upgrade? Vista might force you to re-activate. After x number of activations, you get to call a 1-800 number, enter 40 numbers, answer some tin-pot questions about how many computers it's been installed on, may or may not speak to some human, and finally get to enter 40 more numbers and you're done. After that final time, the reactivation procedure becomes a formality. So beware when updating any system drivers or even firmware updates. Installing a BIOS, video driver, et al, has been reported by others as triggering re-activation as well.

19. DRM, for those who care. Especially with Vista.

I'm almost getting bored, but if you want a bunch of links to go into DirectX 10, WinFS, reactivation hassles, DRM, and any number of problems, I'll provide you with a few links.

[leeroysphitz]

49. Your are defining yourself based on your choice of consumer product.

That makes me a little sad for you.

[Robb]

51. You must be a PC, then

:D

[leeroysphitz]

52. Not at all. I do use PC because I use Autocad for work but 60-70 percent

of my non workrelated computing is done mobile on an Ipod Touch.

I just think that saying "I am a Mac" because that is the corporation you prefer to buy a consumer good from is more than a little cultish and creepy and sad.

I bought my home computer from Southgate Computers. They did a great job building my PC and it's been trouble free for years but you don't hear me running around saying "I am a Southgate Computer" do you? :P

[Deja Q]

56. A shame Microsoft didn't adopt that strategy instead of

shamelessly copying it because Apple sales were (and still are) going up while Windows has been falling. They need a new marketing department... the current one only copies from everyone else. Then again, what else is new..


Especially amongst college students...

I'm trying to remember the charts IO saw; where they on zdnet, techrepublic, or DU...

[pokerfan]

53. That's the entire point of the 'Get a Mac' commercials

and Apple's marketing strategy in general. "PC users are staid and boring. Mac users are hip and cool."

But I do love the parodies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg1-ywndVNc

[TommyO]

57. I'm a boring person, but I use a Mac

I used to build my own Windows PCs, and still could if I needed one for a special purpose, but my Mac Pro is serving me well, as did my PowerMac before it. Now that I'm running an Intel-based Mac, I will admit that I do have Windows running under Parallels, but for only one reason - to run Roller Coaster Tycoon 2, the old, 2D version of the software, not the 3D version which I don't like.

[pokerfan]

59. I'm dual boot

Vista and ubuntu. But I haven't booted Vista since March. My gaming needs are fairly modest. Poker, backgammon, and the occasional FPS when I feel the need to shoot something.

http://foobillard.sunsite.dk/">Foobilliard (OpenGL) is pretty cool:

[qnr]

60. Pretty much anything except a Mac or a "PC"

Atari, Amiga, Acorn, Minix, Oberon, Medos-2, BSD, Linux, Bluebottle, Plan 9, Solaris, and numerous others

[Kajsa]

61. Mackie here,

Got two in the house,

One PowerMac G3-2002
One MacBook Pro-2007

[mwooldri]

72. I use the operating system used to power this very site...

... a form of Linux. I'm presently trying out new distributions: gOS looks good but is a bit backward. Fedora isn't bad either. Linux Mint I tried today and something about it doesn't quite work for me. I haven't downloaded OpenSuse yet because it's a 4.7 GB download (yep a full DVD download). I was running Ubuntu - may go back to Ubuntu.

Yep, I run Windows XP too. There's games on it my son plays that I can't make run under Linux & Wine.

Can't afford a Mac. Or an iphone.