Britney Spears? Really?

[Deja Q]

http://ontheflix.com/2009/05/24/britney-spears-spent-over-13-million-in-2008/

She works hard for the money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9QHLLnwBBY&feature=related

What a whiner.

[MajorChode]

1. I'm glad she's a Republican

[Deja Q]

2. Same here. "Our side" has Madonna. Repubies can have her too...

[MajorChode]

3. There's several I'd gladly give away

But Spears is the crown jewel of morons these days.

[Drunken Irishman]

25. Yeah. Madonna is a joke.

We'll keep Cher, though.

[Shell Beau]

4. She doesn't know any better.

I bet she has a lot of dem views along with some effed up republican views.

[Deja Q]

5. True - and what she does makes her money,

which is at its core a Republican value...

[blue_onyx]

9. Making money isn't a GOP value

It's an American value. Everyone, including me, wants to have money. Yes, some want it more but I'm certain there are plenty of greedy Democrats.

As far as Britney goes, she certainly does make money. She's expected to make more than 100 million from her current tour (which sadly hasn't come to Detroit). I've read that she is quite generous and gives a lot to charity, although she isn't as public about her donations as some celebrities.

[blue_onyx]

8. She's not a Republican

People keep using one statement where she said we should support "the president" not "President Bush" as evidence that she's a Republican. That was a position that was, sadly, also common among non-Republicans back in 2003.

She does support gay marriage so maybe there's more to her than you think

http://perezhilton.com/2009-04-21-britney-believes-in-gay-marriage-too

[regnaD kciN]

13. I suspect she only supports gay marriage...

...to keep her options open.

[Shell Beau]

14. I figured she would be for gay marriage. I think she is coming

around. She had a messed up time there for a little bit, but she did have two babies back to back. That can mess up your emotional well being especially if you are in a messed up situation anyway.

I don't know too much about her, but I want to root for her for some reason. I want her to do well. :shrug:

[MajorChode]

20. She also said specifically that she "trusts" Bush

If that's not an endorsement of Shrub, I'm not sure what is. There's also a lot of Republicans that have come out in support of gay marriage also, so that's by no means a litmus test.

[blue_onyx]

21. A lot of people trusted Bush not only Republicans.

but I guess people will just believe she's Republican, even if she said she wasn't. I bet, if she voted, she voted for Obama.


"There's also a lot of Republicans that have come out in support of gay marriage also, so that's by no means a litmus test."

I love how people find a way to diminish her support just because it's her. If a different celebrity supported gay marriage, say Miley Cyrus (who oddly has a lot of support on DU), people would be jumping up and down praising her.

[MajorChode]

27. There's other reasons also

The whole abstinence lie she maintained for a while and the "wholesome" image she attempted to project. All of it was typically phony Republican behavior.

And I don't know that a lot of non-Republicans trusted Bush, they just trusted the American institution a bit too much. She specifically said she trusted Bush himself, and I don't know too many Democrats would say that, even in 2003. It was a stupid statement to begin with no matter what her political affiliations, but one can't expect too much from a bow-tie boy Carlson interview.

At any rate she doesn't seem to think much about politics when she does take the time to think. Perhaps that's a good thing.

[FloridaJudy]

6. That's NOT supposed to hang out

Unless you're ninety years old or Octomom or Mrs. Duggar. Sheesh. What's she been doing to the poor thing?

[Amerigo Vespucci]

7. I was right there with every other heterosexual male prior to the arrival of K-Fed.

I don't care, I'm not ashamed to admit it, I thought she was hot and a half.

Then I saw the photos from England's "Sun" newspaper of Britney straddling / dry-humping K-Fed in a park, while he was engaged to Shar Jackson, had one kid already, and another on the way.

At that point, I wrote her off. Some forms of human behavior suck ass. The early days of K-Fed and Britney sucked ass.

[LostInAnomie]

10. She is the perfect example of...

... how ANYONE with decent looks, the right marketing, and resources behind them can be famous. Honestly, there is no legitimate reason she is famous other than those three things.

Her voice - mediocre at best. All her singing is tooled and retooled in the studio with dozens of different effects so that the finished product doesn't even resemble the original recording.

Her songs - all written for her.

Her dancing - lazy and sluggish. The choreography (which is done for her) is mostly rhythmic writhing.

Her concerts - she doesn't actually sing AT ALL. It is all lip-syncing.

Her public image - when not appearing at highly scripted events or interviews, she is basically illiterate trash.

Other than her looks and a talented PR staff, why is she famous?

[blue_onyx]

11. Not true

If it was that easy, record companies would have no trouble creating dozens of musical artists who can achieve the success Britney has.


Her voice: Wrong. She sounds almost exactly the same when she sings live as she does on the CD.

Her songs: So. Most people don't write their own music, even those who claim they do (I'm looking at you Beyonce).

Her dancing: BS. Dancing is one of the things that even non-Britney fans agree she does well.

Her concerts: Not all lip-syncing. She usually sings along to a pre-recorded track. I believe there's even a term (DAT or something like that). She does lipsync as well but so do many people. She's the only one who gets criticized for it.

Her public image: Nice. I'll never understand why people take such glee in trashing a mental ill, mother of two who's working her butt off to get her life and career back on track.

Britney is famous because she's a talented performers who just sold out almost 40 shows in the US during very trying economic times.

[LostInAnomie]

12. Can you honestly not think of dozens of musical artists whose careers...

... are basically built off nothing more than their looks? Jessica Simpson, Ashlee Simpson, The Pussy Cat Dolls, Jennifer Lopez, 75% of male country music stars.

Her voice sounds the same in concert as she does on her CD's because they are both so heavily filtered and routed through computer effects that they are basically the same thing. Shouldn't someone that is dancing as hard as she does in her concerts sound DRAMATICALLY different than she does on CD? It doesn't sound different because for her concerts they basically play a "concert track" through the speakers complete with audience effects and sound reverberation.

Even with all the effects she doesn't have what anyone would call a strong or good voice.

So, out of all the qualities that a successful pop artist should have (voice, song writing ability, dancing, live performances) the only thing she arguably has is dancing ability. Why is she actually deserving of her fame? How could she not be interchangeable with any other attractive girl that can dance?

As for her personal life, people enjoy trashing her because she has very few redeeming qualities. From erratic behavior, child endangerment, idiotic statements, etc., she shows she has little self control. Millions of women that work much harder the Ms. Spears without a tenth of the resources that don't disgrace themselves regularly and show far more self respect.

[Shell Beau]

17. But none of those that you listed have the success that Britney has had.

Maybe J-Lo, but she has an empire (movies, clothes, perfumes, etc.).

[blue_onyx]

18. The musical success of Britney

and that of the Simpson sisters and Jlo are no where near comparable. Britney is one of the most success female artists in history and she's still in her 20s. Jessica Simpson is reality show star and Ashlee Simpson is the sister of a reality show star. JLO is a actress who occasionally makes music and has had some mild success. Britney is completely different than the people you mentioned.


Wrong. Here, watch a few of her live performaces. She sounds pretty much like she does on the CD.

http://www.britneytv.net/view/238/oops-i-did-it-again-snl/

http://www.britneytv.net/view/239/dont-let-me-be-the-last-to-know-snl/



"How could she not be interchangeable with any other attractive girl that can dance?"

You tell me. If Britney has nothing to do with her success, then why is it HER that has had the success and not the hundreds of female pop singer than record companies sign.



"Millions of women that work much harder the Ms. Spears without a tenth of the resources that don't disgrace themselves regularly and show far more self respect."

Millions of woman don't suffer from Bi-Polar disorder. Most woman don't have the stress of being one of the most famous people in the world with people judging you.

[LostInAnomie]

22. Alright then, The Backstreet Boys and N'Sync.

In terms of record sales they are comparable to Britney, and in terms of talent they ranked around her level. Mediocre voices, songs writing and choreography done for them, lip-syncing concerts, etc. What did they have going for them that talented and deserving artists did not? Incredibly good marketing and PR people, dozens of media outlets almost tailor made for their "clean cut, yet sexy" images, pay-to-play radio markets, etc.

The simple fact that she sells more records that all the other untalented, prepackaged pop-stars isn't indicative of talent. Someone has to be on top of the shit heap. It shows that her handlers are better at selecting her songs for her and marketing her. The fact that someone has gotten as far as she has on so little actual talent should be insulting to us all.

"Most woman don't have the stress of being one of the most famous people in the world with people judging you."

Most women also don't make $20 million a year and have an army of personal assistants to handle every every inconvenience. And yes, million of women do have bi-polar disorder. They also have to work more than a handful of dates throughout the year. Her behavior is ridiculous, and throwing out fame and bi-polar disorder as n excuse is laughable.

[blue_onyx]

23. She is talented

To have the level of success she has had, one has to have some talent. Just because you don't like her doesn't mean she's completely untalented. I would love to know your definition of a current musical artist who is "talented."

Using her fame and wealth as reason she's undeserving of compassion is laughable.

[LostInAnomie]

24. While they might not be my cup of tea...

... Eminem and Kanye West are without a doubt very talented at what they do. There are also quite a few very talented female vocalists that sing without computerized effects.

Her fame and wealth aren't reasons for not giving her compassion. Her own behavior is. Her 48 hour marriage, her hooking up with K-Fed even though he was taken with a kid on the way, her flashing her genitals in public, her driving around without her kids in the safety seats, her ducking a drug test by shaving her hair off and getting tattoos, etc. She behaves like a spoiled, undisciplined fool.

[blue_onyx]

26. Her behavior was a result of her bi-polar disorder

If you've noticed that since she was hospitalized twice in mental facilities, her behavior has been under control. I bet if we had cameras constantly following other undiagnosed, unmedicated bi-polar patients we would see some crazy behavior from them as well.

Eminem's new music is so bad. It feels so dated. Kayne is a douchebag and his music is very, very overrated.


"that sing without computerized effects"

Once again, if you listened to her live performances, you would see her voice is the same live as it is on her CDs. Repeating this inability to sing without computerized effects BS won't be true no matter how many times you repeat it.

As far as vocal ability, the only female pop singers that are much better than Britney are Christina Aguilera and Kelly Clarkson.

[Shell Beau]

16. She does write or help to write a lot of her stuff.

She is an entertainer. That is why. She was on Star Search waaaay back before her good looks mattered. She was also on Disney. They saw something there. She does have talent. It certainly isn't vocalist of the year, but there is something there. There are many pretty people out there, many prettier than she, but she has something that touched people. I never got behind it, but I also didn't hate her either. I do strongly dislike anyone who gets with an unavailable person. But we don't really know the back-story to that. Who knows if she knew or not that K-Fed was involved. Either way, I do hope she really has cleaned herself up. I do wish her the best because she was brought into that industry without having a clue what it would be. Some people handle fame well, others...not so much.

[blue_onyx]

19. Yes, she does co-write

There is one song that I know of that she wrote on her own. She wrote it for her first son.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-7W69f68jc


"but she has something that touched people"

She has what Simon from American Idol would call the "X factor." That is something that is hard to find. Even people that hate her can't help but talk about her.

[billyoc]

15. Another hot family values mess.

[SoxFan]

28. And 98% of the public has never heard Interpol