Recall the six fucking cowards

[KitchenWitch]

[LynneSin]

1. I had no clue what the heck you were talking about until I saw LBN

Next step SCOTUS

I hope we have a chance - it all boils down to what Kennedy does!

[jeff30997]

7. Thanks for answering a question that I asked in another thread.

I sincerely hope that the SCOTUS will do the right thing and that this abomination will be flushed

for good.:(

[LynneSin]

8. I'm reading about this and I have a feeling that SCOTUS may not fix it either

and it has nothing to do with the rights of gay people but the rights of any of these ballot initiatives in general. If CASC overturns it or the SCOTUS - it could totally impact this entire system, which wouldn't be a bad thing. I have never seen this kind of system here on the East Coast - yes, people have a voice but it seems if you get enough signatures you could get just about anything and everything on an election ballot.

It's high time Californian's revamp this system - it's being abused and I see no end to it. In 2010, Prop8 could be overturned only to have it reversed again in 2 years. Who benefits from this mess?

[no name no slogan]

9. You can thank the Progressive movement of the early 20th century for that

ballot initiatives, referendums, direct government by the citizenry (instead of by fat-cat politicians). All great ideas when the citizenry is enlightened and not full of mouth-breathing knuckle-dragging troglodytes. It's times like this I wish for an enlightened benevolent autocrat.

[LynneSin]

10. I just think when it comes to changing the constitution the people should be held to the same.....

requirements as the government.

What is it, 3/5 vote to make a change in the amendment. Then why the hell does California have it set so low at just 50%+1 vote. And to make matters worse, the 7million people who supported hate are holding hostage over a state that has a total population of 36 million (that includes those who didn't vote or are under the age of 18).

If these ballot measures worked with 3/5ths of the vote then this thing would have never passed.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

2. Yep

[La Lioness Priyanka]

3. to be fair, they were in sort of a difficult legal position.

i read the nytimes article, and one of the justices just sounded sad that he had to rule the way he did

[mainegreen]

4. I tend to agree with that.

They can only rule on the case at hand, and attacking prop 8 only on the notion it was a 'revision' and not an 'amendment' certainly carried great risk that the judges would be forced to decide against us.

Got to overturn prop 8 through the ballot box.

[nickgutierrez]

5. Have they published the opinion and/or the briefings anywhere yet? n/t

[mainegreen]

6. yup. big read.

http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/S168047.PDF

[Parche]

11. Hey

Recall them......ban them to salt lake city forever...
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