Rec this thread if you want to restore the '¢' key to its rightful spot on the keyboard.

[Richardo]

Whatever happened to the "¢" key?!?

I've noticed that people have to write "My $0.02" or "My 2 cents" when they are sharing one of their revered, closely-held opinions. Both of these options are outrageously burdensome. You'd think in this crazy space-age world of the future we'd have some kind of internet shorthand to indicate cents, akin to 'LOL', 'WTF' or 'OMGZ'.

What displaced the humble '¢' from its position along the top row of the keyboard? I personally blame '^', or perhaps even '!', which back in the day was formed by typing an apostrophe, then a backspace, then a '.' Just like using a lower case 'l' to indicate the number '1'. That was good enough!

Recommending this thread will show you are a dedicated activist who is committed to reconciling this outrage. The fact that Lounge posts do not make it to the 'Greatest' page should NOT deter you.

My 2¢.

[TZ]

1. K+R for such an important topic!

Almost as important as the unappreciated hyphen....

[Jamastiene]

2. Oh, hell yeah. K&R

I want it back too. It's a pain to have to copy it from the character map. I still don't know how to do the U+00A2 thing. I know how to do the ones that say use the Alt key, but I when I try to do the U key, it doesn't work right. I just copy and paste it. I'd rather have the key back on the keyboard too.

¢

[Richardo]

5. I had success with 'Alt-0-1-6-2' on the number pad.

See if that works for you... I still want the key back, though. :grr:

[Deja Q]

27. Finally. There actually IS a reason to use Windows after all...

:hide:

[DarkTirade]

3. I blame inflation.

If we could still buy things for less than a dollar, they'd still be using the ¢ symbol more often.

[Blue_Tires]

4. i'm all over this resolution....

[PeaceNikki]

6. UR NUTZ

[Richardo]

7. Nutz like a fox!

:-|

[begin_within]

8. I've gotten into the habit of typing (Option-4) on my Mac, but I would love it if

the ¢ was on the keyboard. It should be near the $, and I would suggest moving the carat ^ to another location or keyboard combination as I rarely use it.

[Bunny]

9. I got your back, Richardo.

For some time now, I've felt a deep sense of malaise, sometimes even dread, but I could never quite identify the source. I think you are on to something with this, and for that, I thank you. :thumbsup: I believe I'm feeling better already.



:D :hi:

[Richardo]

11. I knew I could count on you, Bunny.

A :hug: for your malaisey sense of dread. There there.



:hi: :D

[Bunny]

12. You've been dishing up the hugs a lot lately, haven't you?

;)

[Richardo]

14. I hope my stalkees appreciate it.

;-)

[Bunny]

15. Well, one of them does.

:*

[Richardo]

17. Yay!

:loveya:

[no name no slogan]

10. I heartily endorse this endeavor

Bring back the cent!

My 2d

^ (that's "my tuppence" in the old pre-decimal British coin)

[Aristus]

13. I never use symbols like `~| or ^. And yet, there they are, right there on my keyboard.

Bring back the ¢!

[Richardo]

16. You gotta fight the powers that be, my brother....

I tried to play my music
They say my music's too loud
I tried talkin' about it
I got the big run-around
And when I rolled with the punches I got
Knocked on the ground
By all this bullshit goin' down. :patriot:

[bikebloke]

18. Discarding it doesn't make cents.

[pokerfan]

19. making a ¢

I personally blame '^', or perhaps even '!', which back in the day was formed by typing an apostrophe, then a backspace, then a '.'

You could similarly form a ¢ by typing a 'c', then a backspace, then a '|' (pipe).

[Richardo]

20. How would you get the pipe to overlay the 'c'?

Instead of overwriting it?

[pokerfan]

22. Printer backspace command

DEC 08 BS (Back Space)

[Richardo]

23. It seems like Alt-0162 is easier

:dunce: + :shrug:

[Kali]

28. ok, I feel really stupid, but

I don't see that pipe thingy on my keyboard - where is it?

[Richardo]

29. It's the upper case on the same key as the back-slash '\'

Some keyboards show it as two vertically-arranged vertical lines for some reason.

[Kali]

36. now I feel even more stupid

I see it. Never used it and I sure didn't notice it when I looked before - just thought it was part of that set of bracket keys.

Thanks! and I did rec the thread because I miss the cent key too! Now, at least I learned how to make one. More than one way!

[pokerfan]

34. Your keyboard may be different

[Kali]

37. thanks - I see it now

d'oh:blush: :blush: :blush:

[gmoney]

21. you could try posting from your Smith-Corona

blame the programmers and coders who actually use the oddball characters like | and ^, and mathematical types who actually need a "one" in order for numbers to add up.

¢ <== Option-4, another reason to get a Mac.

[Richardo]

24. I'd love to have sound app that 'clacked' every time I hit a key and dinged when I hit 'enter'

*DING!*

Pretty sure the rest of the cube farm would hate it though.

[Captain Hilts]

39. Here's my Hermes 3000 -

[gmoney]

USB port on the back?

[gmoney]

44. USB port on the back?

[Strong Atheist]

25. We should just get rid of pennies. Annoying, useless things that cost money to make and you always

waste time searching for. Round all taxes up to the nearest nickle...

[GOPisEvil]

26. hey....HEY!!!! What the hell happened to the cents key??

Thank you for taking up the cause! :patriot:

[GaYellowDawg]

30. Thank you, Thomas Paine. You know, Common ¢.

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[CreekDog]

31. Where was that key when it was on the keyboard?

:shrug:

[PeaceNikki]

32. It was on the #6. Where the ^ lives now.

[NoPasaran]

33. And I am so sick of the bots always saying

"He's only been in the White House for four months, give him time."

A ¢ delayed is ¢ denied!

That's not the change I voted for!

[struggle4progress]

35. Non&#162;

Non¢

[Captain Hilts]

38. I have one on my 1967 Hermes 3000 typewriter. It's great for 'my two cents'.

[Richardo]

40. Solid!

:thumbsup:

[Captain Hilts]

45. It's great for typing letters and particularly postcards. Works even when the power is out!

[PeaceNikki]

41. Here's the explanation:

http://askville.amazon.com/cent-symbol-disappear-keyboard/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=8213362

In the late 1990s, you don't see many cent signs. Why? Because hardly anything costs less than a dollar anymore? Actually, the demise of the cent sign has little to do with inflation, and everything to do with computers. And therein lies a tale.


In the 1960s a disparate group of American computer manufacturers (basically, everyone but IBM) got together and agreed on an encoding standard that became known as ASCII ("ass-key"—The American Standard Code for Information Interchange). This standard simply assigned a number to each of the various symbols used in written communication (e.g., A-Z, a-z, 0-9, period, comma). A standard made it possible for a Fortran program written for a Univac machine to make sense to a programmer (and a Fortran compiler) on a Control Data computer. And for a Teletype terminal to work with a Digital computer, and so on.


So-called text files, still in widespread use today, consist of sequences of these numbers (or codes) to represent letters, spaces, and end-of-lines. Text editors, for example, the Windows Notepad application, display ASCII codes as lines of text on your screen so that you can read and edit them. Similarly, an ASCII keyboard spits out the value 65 when you type a capital 'A,' 65 being the ASCII code for 'A.'


The committee decided on a seven bit code; this allowed for twice as many characters as existing six bit standards, and permitted a parity bit on eight bit tape. So there were 128 slots to dole out, and given the various non-typographic computing agendas to attend to, it was inevitable that some common symbols, including several that had always been on typewriter keyboards, wouldn't make the cut. (The typewriter layout had certain obvious failings in computer applications, for example: overloading the digit 1 and lower case L, so it couldn't be blindly adopted.)


Three handy fractions were cut: ¼ ½ ¾. This makes sense, especially when you consider that the ASCII committee was composed of engineers. I'm sure they thought, in their engineer's way, "Why have ¼ but not 1/3? And if we have 1/3, then why not 1/5? Or 3/32?" Similarly, the committee apparently found $0.19 an acceptable, if somewhat obtuse, way of expressing the price of a Bic pen. At any rate, the popular and useful cent sign didn't make it.


And so the cent sign was off keyboards, terminals, and printers. Not that many people noticed right away. The companies behind ASCII sold big, expensive computers that were used to run businesses, and few cared that there wasn't a cent sign character on one's new line printer. Heck, if your printer could handle lower-case letters, you were state of the art.


But when personal computers began to appear in the late 1970s, the primary application driving their adoption was word processing. These new small computers used the ASCII standard—after all, that's what standards are for. By the millions, typewriter keyboards (with ¢) were traded in for Apple IIs and IBM PCs (without ¢). While it's true that the cent sign was ultimately made part of other larger encoding standards, and is possible to create at modern PCs with a little effort—the damage had been done. Without a cent key in front of them, writers of books, newspapers, magazines, and advertisements made do without. And over time, $0.19 began to look like the right way to say 19¢. In another few years the cent sign will look as alien as those strange S's our forefathers were using when they wrote the constitution.

[Richardo]

42. Engineer bastards.

I've got their 'ass-key' right here.

[PeaceNikki]

43. heh

:D