Just saw a commercial for "The Punisher" movie

[Bombtrack]

I freaking love Marvel Comics movies, because I was a fan of the comics and cartoons(mostly X-men, a little Spiderman) when I was younger. This one looks like it'll be good. It's got the guy who played Mickey Mantle in *61 as the Punisher, Rebecca Romijn Stamos as the leading actress, and John Travolta as the bad guy.

This will hold me over till Spiderman 2 and X-Men 3. My geek appeal has shifted to the occasional reopened interest in Marvel comics away from Star Wars ever since George Lucas completely botched the last 2 movies.

[WilliamPitt]

1. Didn't Dolf Lundgren do a version of the Punisher a while back?

It looked like ass, so I never watched it.

Dolf has a degree from MIT, by the way. Wonder of wonders.

[Bombtrack]

2. I dunno but I wish they had cast Dolph as Magneto instead of Ian McKellan

In the comics Magneto looks just like Dolph, and now that Dolph is older, with some hair colering or a wig he could pull it off. AND he has an eastern/central European accent.

I like Ian McKellan, but Magneto was a big diesel badass from somewhere in Eastern Europe, not a lanky frail British guy. It's bad enough Xavier has an English accent

[Paragon]

4. You're off your nut

You won't find a casting director in Hollywood that would pick Dolph Lundgren over Ian McKellan. If the build of the actors is what's most important to you, go watch WWE Wrestling. I'm guessing you'll love it.

[Bombtrack]

8. It didn't have to be Lundgren, but it shouldn't have been McKellan

The actor didn't have to be a martial artist/bodybuilder, but he shouldn't have been a weak looking/senior citizen looking old brit.

I thought the casting of that movie ok good with Cyclops, Wolverine, and Storm, but Sabertooth was great. The biggest reason for that is the look of the person, which is such a big part of a largely visual driven movie.

Similarly they casted Rogue awfully.

[Paragon]

11. If you buy Patrick Stewart as Professor X...

...then you have to buy McKellan as Magneto. They grew up together, remember?

I've heard this casting-by-their-looks stuff before, and it's retarded. If making a comic book movie, I want to please the fans -- but I won't cast Nipsey Russell just because he happens to look like a character.

And the Rogue in the X-Movies is written much differently than she is in the comics. Anna Paquin was perfect...and a hell of a lot sexier than however some artist could render her.

[Bombtrack]

12. I didn't like Stewart as Xavier either

but at least he resembled Xavier, (although being bald was really the big reason why, something they could have made any actor). But neither Xavier or Magneto were British in the comics. Xavier was an American blueblood, and Magneto was either a jew or gypsie from eastern europe. They didn't grow up together, they met in Israel when they worked together doing something, I forget exactly what though(working on his degree?), a few years before Xavier started his school. I stopped reading the comics after the "age of apocalypse" storyline, in which the 2's early friendship played a big part.

The bad guy Xavier grew up with if I remember right was Juggernaut, his stepbrother

[Paragon]

13. You have an amazing capacity for missing the point

You seem to want as exact a translation from comic to live action as possible -- and I'm telling ya, a lot of that stuff is anathema to making a good movie. There's a reason the movie X-Men were wearing black leather and not spandex -- 'cause they'd look like assholes.

I'm sorry that Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellan, Halle Berry, etc. don't look EXACTLY like their characters do in the comics -- they are, however, name actors that people recognize and want to go see.

If you want that perfect translation from comics to film, here's a stunning idea -- TELL MARVEL TO MAKE AN ANIMATED SUPERHERO FILM. I wouldn't mind seeing one, myself...and you won't end up all disappointed in the realities of live action film.

:eyes:

[Bombtrack]

14. No, you're missing the point. I don't care about exactness

But I like it when there is SOME resemblence, something that reminds you of the character both physically, and creatively. By the way, I liked having Halle Berry because she is as good looking as Comic book chicks are.

I'm just saying Magneto was imposing, he could take on all the X-men at once. Ian McKellan is an old-looking gay Shakespearian actor. Nothing wrong with being that, just for me I wouldn't want him playing Magneto. Look, he looks nothing like McKellan, and he REMINDS you nothing of McKellan.

And the fact that he has a British accent does not make sense when he was a jew in Aushwitz

[Paragon]

15. Never mind.

I can only bang my head against the wall so many times.

[DS1]

3. Yes, he did, it was a really really botched adaptation

This one is much closer, but still doesn't feel ~right~ :shrug;

[Paragon]

5. Probably because it was shot and/or is set in Tampa

I don't recall from the comics if The Punisher had regular stomping grounds, but Tampa isn't the first place I'd picture him, either.

I'm willing to give it a chance, of course. LOVE superhero movies...well, the better ones, anyway.

[Cat Atomic]

6. I don't have much hope for The Punisher, personally.

It's sort of... done, you know? It looks like an 80's revenge flick. I mean- there were so many movies with that plot, it became it's own genre. :p

[Paragon]

7. If they can bring back disaster flicks and sword-and-sandal movies...

...nothing is out of bounds. Besides, isn't 80s nostalgia hip now?

[Bombtrack]

9. Well I'm all good with them filling out the Marvel Universe on the big

screen.

I'm really not a big fan of fiction in general, but marvel comics are, like things like the Sopranos, soap operahs that guys can like.

Daredevil and the Hulk worn't that good, but other than that I've liked the movies. Blade1 and Blade 2, X1 and X2, and Spiderman were all great.

Fantastic 4 is coming out as well.

[rumguy]

10. I loved The Punisher growing up (still like comics)

and the movie looks damn good...

[Bombtrack]

16. bump

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