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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:06 AM
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Poll question: Blues Battle: John Lee Hooker vs. Howlin' Wolf
John Lee Hooker link
http://w1.191.telia.com/~u19104970/johnnielee.html

Howlin' Wolf link
http://www.howlinwolf.com/


This is basement blues. Deep, deep stuff.

Who would you prefer to listen to right now?
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:07 AM
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1. I like John, but Chester is the man (nt)
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:08 AM
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4. Tonight I voted for John Lee Hooker.
Tomorrow it could very well be Howlin' Wolf!
:smoke:
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bubblesby2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 01:16 AM
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15. Me too
John Lee is my favourite.:smoke:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 01:31 AM
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17. "Crawling Kingsnake"!
:smoke:
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:08 AM
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2. Gotta go with Wolf
We named our late cat Chester after him.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:08 AM
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3. No question: Wolf!
John Lee made some great records, but Wolf had the voice, y'all!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:11 AM
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5. They both had voices, man!
Even though nobody was as primal as The Wolf, I gave the edge of musicianship to John-BOOGIE!:bounce:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:17 AM
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6. "Mama, mama, mama, mama-talk to your daughter for me"
vs.

"I'm leaving you woman, before I commit a crime"
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:37 AM
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8. "Mama, Talk To Your Daughter" was J.B. Lenore.
Now, there's a sadly forgotten blues great!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:42 AM
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10. John Lee covered it , but, credit goes to J.B.
He covered it great! That's the blues!
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:32 AM
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7. Built For Comfort
definitely Mr Burnett.

I AM the back door man
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lucidmadman Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:39 AM
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9. I asked my baby for some water...
...but she gave me gasoline...

Is anyone here old enough to remember, like me, when The Stones and Howlin' Wolf were on Shindig?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:43 AM
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11. Yep. I'm 54, ask me anything-lol
a boomer!
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lucidmadman Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 01:09 AM
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14. Cool! I'm 52...
...that was a great era in popular music on 'top 40' am radio. Chuck Berry was still having hits, there were cross-over hits like Slim Harpo's 'Baby,scratch my back'. Stax/Volt records. Nawlins records. The second generation 'British invasion' bands like The Yardbirds, Them, The Who, etc. It was quite a mix then amidst all the usual shmaltzy pop junk...
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 01:27 AM
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16. Chuck Berry tunes pretty much were the soundtrack of early school age
for me , man! Although back then true Country&Western music was a staple of home.
Hank Williams, George Jones, Johnny Cash, Bob Willis, Hank Snow, Marvin Rainwater, Lefty Frizell, Kitty Wells, Patsy Cline...:hi:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:59 AM
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12. I usually go with the Chicago Blues. Willie Dixon gave the Wolf
such fantastic tunes!

But "House Rent Boogie"-WOOHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 01:03 AM
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13. Crying wolf
but give me the 3 kings too
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 01:57 AM
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18. Well now it's almost tied!
I'll bet it's those Australians that get here about this time, they're voting now.
:smoke:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 02:13 AM
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19. One thing is for sure-both of these artists were highly influential
to a lot of today's musicians all over the world.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 03:04 AM
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20. Bedtime kick-it's all tied up now--see ya later
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 11:02 AM
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21. I'm back and even though there's been four more votes cast-it's tied
dead even!
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 11:11 AM
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22. Explain this to me about John Lee Hooker
Why was he considered a Detroit bluesman when he lived most of his life in Chicago?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 11:26 AM
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24. And he was born in Mississippi, raised in Tennessee
for a while he was " the boogie man"...
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 11:22 AM
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23. Here is a real Howlin' Wolf link-the one I put in the first post was an ad
I was high last night, but that's no excuse. Sorry:smoke:

Howlin' Wolf
http://www.furious.com/perfect/wolf/
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 11:55 AM
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25. Now I'll be humming/singing John Lee Hooker songs all day!
But that's a good thing :-).

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:05 PM
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26. A very good thing indeed!
:hi:
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:14 PM
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27. Thanks for reviving some good memories :-)
It's March 1975 (wow, almost 30 years ago!). I'm at a great blues concert in a crowded old movie theater in Pgh.

The line up:

John Lee Hooker
Junior Wells/Buddy Guy
T-Bone Walker (I think it was one week before he died)
Bobby Blue Band

It was standing room only. Lots of smoke and great blues. Sigh....
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 03:53 PM
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28. T-Bone Walker gave John Lee Hooker his first electric guitar.
What a show that must have been!
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 04:37 PM
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29. Saw John Lee Hooker play in a small club in the '80s.
It was a great show.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 05:19 PM
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30. Howlin' Wolf is the greatest singer who ever walked the earth...
everyone else is battling for second place
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 06:32 PM
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31. I saw them both, Wolf at the Avalon and John Lee at the Fillmore...
Edited on Fri Mar-19-04 06:33 PM by Zinfandel
I like them both very much.

But it was Howlin' Wolf who really knocked me out!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 09:53 PM
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32. When I was about four or five we lived in Oakland
but we moved back to Wisconsin, lucky you in the Bay.
:hi:
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 11:50 PM
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33. Both great but how about Muddy?
Gotta love that stuff...
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 09:47 AM
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34. John Lee Hooker.
Love 'em both, but I got to see Hooker live, so I'm a little biased.
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 10:15 AM
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35. Wolf, Wolf, Wolf.
Other than Wolf, I really don't like anything calling itself "blues" that was recorded by anyone who started playing after about 1930.

The whole "Chicago Blues" scene was a travesty, IMO. Much like disco destroyed R&B by making it all about the beat instead of the vocalist; Chicago blues did the same thing to the great American folk blues tradition -- the singer doesn't matter, the lyrics don't matter, all that matters is having someone who can play a really ripping guitar solo.

But Wolf was still the star. Even though he played with guitarists like Buddy Guy, Wolf was the star. Wolf made blues records that were about the SINGER and the SONG rather than some guitar solo.

Wolf belongs in the same pantheon as Skip James, Blind Willie McTell, Mississippi John Hurt, Son House, and Charley Patton.

I do like Hooker better than a lot of those electric "blues" wankers that came later (SRV, solo Clapton, crap like that), but he ain't no Wolf.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 10:21 AM
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36. I disagree with your criticism of Chicago Style Blues-my personal
favorite style--they amplified everything and really brought out the best in each other.

Chess Records helped, too.

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