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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 02:25 PM
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Poll question: Who SHOULD be elected to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 02:28 PM by SoxFan
Ran out of room...feel free to write-in others, such as The Smiths, X, Motorhead, Devo, Tom Waits, etc.
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wysimdnwyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 02:41 PM
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1. I need to vote for more than one
Rush, Moody Blues, Iron Maiden, Yes, The Cure (even though I can't stand them) and *RHCP should all be included.


*RHCP just became eligible this year, and should get inducted soon (perhaps 2016, when Blood Sugar Sex Magik is 25).
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 04:47 PM
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13. Don't forget King Crimson and Jethro Tull
:woohoo:
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Rhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:58 PM
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26. I need multiple votes, too... but it's because
I have a hard time deciding between Joy Division and The Replacements!
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 02:47 PM
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2. SLAYER!!!
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:02 PM
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6. Metal gets crapped on by the Hall
I'm not a metal fan, but as a fan of post-punk bands like Joy Division and The Cure and American alt rock like Husker Du and The Replacements, I see where you're coming from.
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:37 PM
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7. For a band that never, ever gets played on the radio...
...they still maintain a rabid fan base and are an enduring influence in their genre.

I have also know personally a great many musicians who claim Husker Du as a milestone in their musical upbringing.

I think the people who decide which acts get selected just like to jerk each other off.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 02:58 PM
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3. missing option: Link Wray
inventor of the heavy guitar chord, he was a definite influence on surf, metal and punk

RIP
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:00 PM
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5. I thought he was in already
If not, good pick.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 04:36 PM
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9. Very good suggestion - the grandfather of metal. None of the others except for possibly the
Moody Blues belong in the Hall of fame. Maybe the Chili Peppers in ten years, if any of them live that long.

mark
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 06:40 PM
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15. Joy Division doesn't belong?
You really are Old, Mark!

Joy Division is a lot like the Velvet Underground; they were never a big commercial success (at least in the US), but their influence is still being felt. JD harnessed the raw energy and ethos of punk and fused it with brooding, literate lyrics and weird, atmospheric synthesizers. If they're going to let in twaddle like the Hollies and Billy Joel, then they had better let in the most influential band of the last thirty years.

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 07:53 PM
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18. I omitted them because I never heard any of their music - now I have
Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 07:53 PM by old mark
found someone else to listen to.

Thanks.

Yes, I am old - I remember Linc Wray's "Rumble" when it first was on radio.
Not yet dead, though - and still glad to learn, even from you puppies.

mark
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 07:58 PM
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19. Agree re: Billy Joel, but have to disagree about the Hollies--highly inventive band
Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 08:01 PM by abq e streeter
and probably the most underrated of all the British invasion bands. Just my opinion, but this ain't "twaddle":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoEPG2CiaRE



also, I'm not a stuck in the sixties boomer ( not that you or anyone suggested I am); I voted for the Cure, and agree about Joy Division, and X is one of my favorite bands ever.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:00 PM
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4. My ballot
Joy Division: Influenced everyone from U2 to REM to The Killers to The Bravery. Might as well elect New Order while we're at it; it's the same band minus Ian Curtis, and they are influential enough in their own right.

The Cure: Like JD, influenced an entire generation of alt rock fans and performers.

X: A weird mix of punk, roots-rock, country, and bleak poetry; America's greatest punk band.

Rush: The bridge between prog and pop. They were a "gateway drug" in the 1980s; a lot of people who were Rush fans later expanded their horizons into quirlier prog rock or alternative.

Motorhead: The crazy old uncles of metal. If Metallica is in (and they should be), their prime influence should be as well (same holds true for Joy Division and U2).

Kraftwerk: I can't stand them, but their influence was felt in new wave, synthpop, and beyond.
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tXr Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:41 PM
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8. The Cars.
Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 03:42 PM by tXr
Just for their debut album and Candy-O, although Panorama was a decent album too.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 08:10 PM
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21. +1
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 04:39 PM
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10. Donna Summer
There, I said it.

:hi:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 04:46 PM
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12. Creekdog's favorite: Air Supply
:)
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 08:17 PM
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33. I thought she was already in there
:shrug:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:33 AM
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46. They mighta let her in but
she left her cake out in the rain and we'll never have that recipe again :grr::D
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 04:41 PM
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11. Satan
Seriously, that guy had a hand in all the good music.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 05:01 PM
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14. Bobby Keys as a side man
He deserves it just for Exile on Main Street.

He was on tons of other classic albums.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 07:51 PM
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17. +1.......his discography is astounding; basically defined rocknroll sax
Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 08:07 PM by abq e streeter
along with King Curtis

edited to add: I tried to resist adding this, because I'm well aware of how obnoxious it can sound when I hear others talking about "I know this famous person" etc...... BUT, Bobby IS a friend; not a close one by any means , but a casual friend, and we've gigged together at least about a dozen times , and so for personal reasons I am gratified that someone mentioned him. He really does belong there.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:19 PM
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32. Another sideman: Steve Wickham
In addition to his work with the Waterboys (who have zero chance of ever bing noticed by Jann Wenner's circle jerk), he has worked with an impressive collection of artists:

Elvis Costello
Sinead O'Connor
U2 (the fiddle on "Sunday Bloody Sunday"
World Party
In Tua Nua
Fairground Attraction
Hothouse Flowers
Gavin Friday
The Long Ryders
Maria McKee
Sharon Shannon
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 07:45 PM
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16. JOAN JETT
and/or the Runaways.

Absolutely, indisputably the biggest influence on and one of the original female rockers, I cannot believe that Madonna (and Madonna is actually ok with me) in, but the original 70's girl rocker is not....

I am totally boycotting Detroit and the RRHOF until Joan gets in, (except for the Stooges, that is) :)
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:09 PM
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31. Runaways
Runaways--->Sleater-Kinney, Bikini Kill, PJ Harvey, Breeders, etc. Definitely should be considered!
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:18 AM
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40. Allow me to join you!
Love the Runaways! I loved them when I was 9 or 10, too, which totally freaked out my Mom, LOL!
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 08:03 PM
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20. not fucking abba
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:32 AM
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45. Can we let ABBA in if they're not fucking?
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Hayabusa Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:20 PM
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22. Meat Puppets
Were one of the influential alternative rock bands, inspiring Nirvana and other bands
Blended so many styles into one huge hodgepodge of music that should--in reality--sound like one big clusterfrak and actually make it work.
Their second album, seriously.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:27 PM
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23. Every group/person mentioned in the OP.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:51 PM
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24. Are those rock groups? n/t
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:56 PM
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25. Genesis.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:58 PM
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27. Now that I have had two seconds to think...
THE E STREET BAND!!!! Bruce is in, but I don't think the rest of the band is.
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General Zod Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:07 PM
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28. Cheap Trick!!!!
These guys are probably the most unappreciated American rock band ever. Robin Zander is a terrific singer and they virtually invented power pop. Drummer Bun E. Carlos is rock steady & guitarist Rick Nielsen is a tremendous songwriter and is one of the pioneers of custom-made guitars. Bands like Weezer, Fountains of Wayne and Smashing Pumpkins would have been lost without them.

They've written at least one Rock Anthem (Surrender) and one classic radio staple (I Want You To Want Me). "Cheap Trick at Budokan" is one of the greatest live albums ever and "In Color" and "Heaven Tonight" are bona fide 70's classic albums. They're still one of the best live bands ever and they are still recording and releasing albums to this day--with the original lineup still intact.

And, most importantly, they still rock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Z7_Hwcy00
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:09 PM
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30. No arguments.
Loved them, growing up.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:19 AM
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41. Another one I have to agree with
"I want you to want...ME!"
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:52 AM
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43. Didn't see yours before posting my nomination of the rockers from Rockford.
One of the most talented groups still crankin' away. I love watching their 'Silver' DVD of their 25th Anniversary concert--and that was a decade ago!
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:07 PM
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29. The E Street Band
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 09:01 PM
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34. Todd Rundgren and Utopia. nt
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tmyers09 Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 09:29 PM
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35. HALL AND OATES.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 09:47 PM
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36. Westerburg
next question
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 09:48 PM
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37. All of the above!
They were all hugely influential. Even the ones I don't care for.

But I am ALL about getting X, Motorhead, Devo, Tom Waits, and the Smiths in there too, now that you mention them.

Also Pere Ubu. And I totally second Kraftwerk--how many genres did they basically invent?

Most shameful omissions from the 60s: THE MC5 and CAPTAIN BEEFHEART. What the hell's wrong with you, committee? Weak.
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 10:01 PM
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38. X
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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 11:17 PM
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39. Heart
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:50 AM
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42. CHEAP TRICK.
On your list, Rush, definitely.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:31 AM
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44. Linda Ronstadt and Neil Diamond
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 02:17 PM
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51. Linda from 1969 to 1977...
From 1969's "Hand Sown, Home Grown" through 1977's "Simple Dreams," those are the "Hall of Fame" years, IMHO.

1978's "Living In The USA" was the first album that showed producer Peter Asher's formula to be wearing thin:



1980's "Mad Love" was a noble attempt, but Linda's decision to dive into the deep end of the "New Wave" pool was marred by the fact that she just didn't "get" some of these songs at all as she trampled all over their nuances:



From there, it was really hit and miss...the "period pieces" albums, the Spanish language albums, the Harris-Parton collaborations, and a few albums more typical of her early career stuff. I pretty much stopped following after "Living In The USA." But everything BEFORE that? Hell, YES.

:toast:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 10:40 PM
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52. LInda paved the way for
Stevie Nick, The Heart sisters etc.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 02:07 AM
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47. The reason that bands like Yes are not inducted
Is the question of "who exactly gets in". With Yes, it might be easier than some other groups with ridiculous numbers of personnel changes. Pick up the "Union" album - induct everyone who played on that album and tour. That way you get the classic 70's lineup, and the replacement members who were worthy of note.

Heart - definitely Ann & Nancy should be in, along with the rest of the original lineup. Not so much the 80's corporate rock cheesefest version of the band that even the Wilsons themselves disown these days.

Worst of all, the hall of fame has been inconsistent in how they apply the rules of induction. Sammy Hagar was inducted as a member of Van Halen, while Ronnie James Dio was not inducted with Black Sabbath. Dio definitely deserved it more. There was NOTHING remotely Hall of Fame worthy about Van Hagar.

Also, Alice Cooper still hasn't been inducted. Yeah I don't like the guy's politics, but for what he contributed to music in the early 70's, he should be in.

KISS continues to get snubbed, probably for similar reasons to Yes. (too damn many band members) In their case, it should be only the original lineup. Maybe their second drummer Eric Carr, since he was with them 10 years, was popular with the fanbase, and dead guys usually get in by default.

Rush should have been in years ago. Only reason I can think of for their exclusion is that everyone in the music industry hates their manager Ray Danniels. Rush is the only band he ever worked with that he didn't destroy.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 02:27 AM
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48. Sun City Girls, The Melvins, and Nomeansno.
All of whom would reject the award anyways.
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Jetboy Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:43 PM
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49. My ballot:
1. New York Dolls- I feel that they are vastly underrated in the influence department. Here are some quotes off the top of my head: 'Every Britpunk band, and I knew them all, had the first 2 Dolls lps.' Chrissie Hyde 'We figured that if NYC could tolerate the Dolls then it could tolerate the Talking Heads and that is why we came here.' 'I can't believe how much I copied (Doll Johnny) Thunders in the early days' Sex Pistol Steve Jones

Morrissey lists the Dolls as his biggest influence. link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOEJlt89DxQ

Besides the NYC punk scene and the Britpunks, the Dolls were highly influential in glam/sleaze and hair metal.

The Dolls certainly did more than their fair share of carping off other artists as a good band should. It is what they copied that was important. The Dolls captured the early r-n-r fury of Chuck Berry, Eddie Cochran and Little Richard, the NYC street corner doo-wop background vocal, the naughty girl group 'tude, and the blues base at the root of it all. Plus they had some Stones, a little garage and late 60s Detroit r-n-r in 'em. They incorporated all that was good about rock-n-roll while shunning all that was bad.

2. Joan Jett and or the Runaways- JJ is 100% rock-n-roll. If she sneezes, coughs or farts- it's rock-n-roll to the rest of us.

3. Hanoi Rocks- A pipe dream for sure, but for my money this band was a prime example of what a rock-n-roll band should be.

4. Ted Nugent- Shitty guy but a great rock-n-roller IMO

5. Collins Kids- These kids really had the magic back in the 50s. Lorrie was the teenage goddess of rock-n-roll and lil Larry absolutely smoked on guitar.

6. Sha Na Na- They played Woodstock, were in Grease and had their own tv show. Plus, in the early 70s, this band played 50s songs in punk rock tempo. They were like the Ramones (who later guested on their show in '79) with a piano player, a sax player and several back-up singers! See for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BAImUIzyTU






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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:03 PM
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50. The more I see the list of who's not in...
...the more I realize that the R&RHOF is a fucking joke.

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:30 PM
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53. Sammy Davis Jr.
I'm sick of all the rock 'n rollers stealing all the thunder.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 03:05 AM
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54. I'm not a full-fledged RUSH fan.
But they are original, and there is no other band, to this day, that is like Rush. And that is a compliment.
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