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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:05 PM
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Poll question: New Sherlock Holmes movie....looks good or bad? Discuss.
Classic mystery with a modern action twist.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:06 PM
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1. I'm going with could go either way.
I think that the base of Sherlock Holmes is cool enough. It looks like it was directed by the same guy who did Bad Boys 2. But who knows, it could be great.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:08 PM
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2. I know absolutely nothing about it and wasn't aware of it. I'll give it a chance on DVD.
I'll wait for it to hit RedBox so I can rent it for a dollar.

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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:20 PM
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3. Seems weird but Robert Downey Jr. could pull it off.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:28 PM
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4. I like Guy Ritchie's gangster flicks.
So I'll go in watching the DVD with optimism.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:15 PM
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15. +1
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:48 PM
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5. Must everything be CGI-saturated super-action flicks?
Not even Victorian-era detective novels are safe from their soulless grasp.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:08 PM
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7. Well said.
I'm going to quote that.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:05 PM
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9. Must nothing be?
:shrug:
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:04 PM
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14. I know you revel in being a contrarian
And I am sure I shouldn't humor you in all of your charmingly obtuse glory, but it wasn't an either/or proposition I offered.

CGI has its place - it's a useful tool to make fantasy worlds (and characters) come to life quite beautifully. But I am one of those pesky curmudgeons who gives a shit about WRITING, and PLOT, and CHARACTERIZATION. So fuck me sideways for having an opinion about soulless moviemaking.

These kinds of action movies are plotless eye candy, with flat characters, and turgid scripts. They're damn near fascist in their ethos. It's all spectacle, with a sense of wonder being crushed under the weight of a credo which screams: "ISN'T TECHNOLOGY WONDERFUL?? THIS KICKS ASS!!! WHAT A ROLLER COASTER!!". It's the kind of movies one expects when gamers and fanboys learn the ropes of animation, and want to bulldoze the rest of us into submission. Fuck them.

Many movies have made decent use of CGI. But nowadays it is being used as a bludgeoning device instead of part of an artist's pallette. Just because something CAN be done, doesn't mean it SHOULD be.

I am sure you will want the last word, and be even more obtuse and contrarian with your reply.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:29 PM
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17. You've got it backwards.
CGI shouldn't be used to make fantasy worlds like Avatar or Jar Jar Binks. That looks like shit.

CGI should be subtle. Like removing contrails from a period piece. Or to get a dog to stop looking at the camera.

That said, I haven't seen a use of CGI in the Sherlock Holmes trailer, except for possibly where he uses the talc powder to discover the draft leading him to a secret door. And that's the kind of CGI I can approve of.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:37 PM
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19. I guess I do want the last word.
I watch entertainment for what it tries to offer. If it's a great plot or characterization, I'll enjoy it for that. If it's CGI punnery, I'll enjoy it for that. How is having a more open mind contrarian? To me the contrarians are the ones who hate everything, who start every thread with the implied "People will love this so I will prove my superiority by hating it on principle."

Fuck principle. Life's too short. I can enjoy bubble gum as well as truffles.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:03 PM
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21. And another last word.
My only point was that there are a lot of movies made, so why worry about the ones you don't like? The rest came from you, not me.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:07 PM
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10. So you're saying I should shelve my "Shakyamuni Buddha: Superhero!" project?
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:24 AM
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22. Right next to my new film "Ghandi Kicks Ass!!!" Just not "right" somehow...nt
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:07 PM
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6. Schlock...
pure schlock.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:58 PM
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8. Wonderfully, hideously bad!
I predict it will be one of those films that is so bad it becomes a hit with a certain crowd.

I saw the trailer ages ago, when Ritchies was still cutting furiously because previews were blowing. Even back then I thought to myself, "You have GOT to be fucking kidding me!"
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:08 PM
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11. I can't wait.
Guy Ritchie, Robert Downie, Amy Adams, corny smack talk with a fake British accent? Sure beats the hell out of Lord of the Rings. Probably not as good as Shakespeare in Love, though.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:18 PM
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12. I have a hard time imagining it being better than Lord of the Rings
I love LOTR. Great film making.

I'm a so-so fan of Guy Ritchie.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:30 PM
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18. I hated LOTR.
38 of the most boring hours of film I've ever seen. The actors were good, but the directing was so formulaic I couldn't bear it. I know, I know, I'm in a minority.

Guy Ritchie is fun, not much else. Too cutsie to be really great, but he's good for a 90 minutes of chuckling, at his best.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:11 AM
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24. Will it be as good as "The Adventure of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother"?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:15 AM
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26. Can anything?
:rofl:

It'll probably beat "Young Sherlock Holmes," at least.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:32 PM
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13. Can't stand Rob't Downey, jr with all his mugging for the camera.
To me, he plays the same role over and over and, for that matter, so do John Cusack and Bill Murray.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:16 PM
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16. Maybe good or bad.
But from the trailer it looks like Holmes/Watson slashfic.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:48 PM
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20. Jude Law should have been cast as Sherlock Holmes.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:26 AM
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23. Terminator Holmes? This time, he's FOR REAL!!
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:17 AM
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25. I've got one exhibit to present:


"Watson, 7-Eleven Coffee Is Extraordinary!"

"No shit, Sherlock."

EXPLOSION!!!!!!


Man, is this movie going to suck. I saw a preview and what Guy Ritchie evidently thought is he knew better than anybody else how to make Van Helsing. Gah.
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