I've just started the Atkins diet. I had steak, cauliflower and salad for dinner. Ask me anything!

[applegrove]

I'm hungry allready and I am not nearly finished this day. I'm going to be starving for the next few days. Hate it allready.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. I went on it a few years ago, lost about 25 lbs.

But it's a VERY hard diet to stay on. I couldn't and gained the weight back, and could barely stand the sight of meat. Good luck to you.

[applegrove]

4. I know. I keep forgetting I will never have pasta alfredo again in my life!!

Oh well I had cauliflower alfredo and it was good.

[taterguy]

2. What's your favorite dB's song?

[applegrove]

3. ?

[taterguy]

5. I didn't know they did a song called "?"

I thought I knew all their tunes.

Is that on some bootleg or compilation?

[applegrove]

7. You kid!! Happy New Year!

[taterguy]

39. So why aren't you answering my question?

I find that evasion troubling

[applegrove]

44. Crickets

[B Calm]

6. Two years ago I lost 40 pounds on Atkins, You'll reach a certain point

and it gets easy.

Only two carbs in a brat. . .

[CaliforniaPeggy]

8. My dear applegrove...

Why on earth are you doing that to yourself?

Diets are not a good idea...

I lost 50 pounds over a number of years, and never ever went on a diet.

I'm sorry you're subjecting yourself to this, I really am.

[applegrove]

12. I'm on meds that make me gain weight constantly. Plus I've been an emotional eater for the last year

I just want some control back on that part of my life. And since I quit drinking 3 years ago and quit smoking 1 1/2 years ago it is time for another change. I really am thinking this will be a lifestyle change. I got out an old roomates wonderful salad dressing recipe and loved the salad I made tonight. I can't keep eating pizza and junk so this is just a small step in a new food routine. I know diets don't work but I need something that will get me motivated and excited and this does.

[Lex]

13. Plenty of fresh low carb veggies, salads, and lean meat. That's how I did Atkins

and lost 65 pounds and have kept it off for 5 years.

[applegrove]

20. See I knew there were success stories out there. Yes I plan on eating lean meats.

[Lex]

23. The best part of it is that

it keep your blood sugar level and that keeps your appetite in check. Or it does so for me.

[applegrove]

24. That is what I have read up on. Two days of hungry then I will feel full. I'm looking forward to

that.

[Lex]

27. I can tell when I'm eating too many junk carbs

because my hunger level increases.

[XemaSab]

128. Yesterday I had

a tiny package of nuts, two string cheeses, a tin of sardines, and a Trader Joe's greek salad, and I was fine until about 11 this morning. :9

[GoCubsGo]

72. That's basically the first 2 weeks of the South Beach diet.

South Beach gives one more choices in veggies, which is a good idea. They also add in fruit, which is a good idea. Leaving fruits and some of the higher-carb vegetables out of your diet is not healthy for you. You lose out on many of the important phytonutrients they contain. I would never last on Atkins, because of such restrictions. I like my fruit too much.

[Lex]

80. South Beach allows more sugar than Atkins. Some people

are fine with that, but I prefer eating less sugar. I do occasionally eat lower carb fruits, like berries, apples, and grapefruit.

[applegrove]

101. I hope to not be on the no fruit portion of the atkins diet for not longer than a few months.

My goal weight is not to be really skinny.

[TommyO]

61. For some of us, reducing starchy carbs is the only way we can lose and maintain

[Captain Hilts]

69. We should all do that. But you need carbs if you workout and your brain needs glucose. nt

[TommyO]

73. That's why it's low carb, not no carb.

[Captain Hilts]

75. But it does slow down your brain. It happens even faster if you work out. My gym

really warned folks of this side affect.

The South Beach diet was the low carb version.

[TommyO]

78. OK, so you have an anecdotal claim from "my gym"

Where's the proof? I provided the NEJM info about low carb being effective and safe, can you do the same for your claims?

[applegrove]

102. Do you loose a bit of brain power? How? I'd really like to be prepared for that.

[Lex]

106. No, or at least I didn't. Cutting out sugar and starchy carbs made me feel more awake

and sharper. Maybe if I was doing intensive workouts in the gym, I might feel differently about that. But in actuality, I felt less sleepy, more energized without junk starch and sugar. And I started walking regularly too, 30 minutes 3 or so times per week.

[XemaSab]

129. I agree with Lex

I feel much better when eating low-carb foods... just sharper somehow.

[we can do it]

9. When Are You Quitting? Its Horrible For Your Health

Please just eat sensible real food and exercise

[Captain Hilts]

59. BINGO. nt

[TommyO]

62. Really? Fresh veggies, salads and lean meats are horrible for your health?

[we can do it]

63. No, Not When You Emphasize Veggies - But Eating Yourself Into Ketosis Is

Meat cheese - good
fruit, bread - Bad

any one with a brain ca see thru this BS

[Captain Hilts]

65. It's bad for your brain and slows it down!

[TommyO]

66. You've made this claim twice

Care to back it up?

[Captain Hilts]

77. This first came up when Sly Stallone was building up for Rocky. Back then,

he said it made him stupid. It ends up it actually does slow down your brain activity. I didn't think about it for many years, then a couple of friends that run in different circles that went on the diet noticed this. My gym warned patrons against going on this diet because if you work out the affects on your brain start all the much faster. This is one reason people opted for the South Beach diet.

[we can do it]

81. Your Brain Runs on Glucose

[TommyO]

82. True, but Captain Hilts hasn't provided any proof for his rather specious claim

that the brain runs slower when people low (not no) carb, nor have you provided any proof that "Its horrible for your health".

[quakerboy]

85. And your body can convert all sorts of things into glucose

Its interesting how on Atkins diabetics end up with a steady good levels of glucose, not crazy dips and peaks. Kind of like the body knows what it is doing or something and can adapt to varying types of food input.

I think it bears research, because I think that one could, for instance, claim that it is the cutting out of processed foods that is to helpful for some on Atkins, but claiming that it is bad for you without any real information to back that up seems kind of counterproductive. And anecdotal claims are just as useless, seeing as there are just as many in favor of it as against it.

[Texasgal]

10. atkins is a horrible diet

Really, fresh fruits...veggies and grains with exercise is the only way.

I wouldn't do this to yourself or your body.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. That's what my doc said -- told me to get off it.

I did in any event, because you just can't keep on such a restrictive diet indefinitely. Every now and then I think of doing it again because you really do lose weight quickly -- but *ICK* I totally lost interest in most meat after eating almost nothing but meat for several months.

[Lex]

15. if you ate mostly meat you weren't doing Atkins

because he advocates lots of low carb veggies and salads too.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

21. Oh, yeah, I ate that, too. Bleh.

But meat is what keeps you from getting hungry. If you eat mostly low-carb salads and vegetables you're hungry constantly, and before long you'll snap like a dry twig and end up devouring an entire carton of Ben & Jerry's. The problem with Atkins is that you can't eat most fruit (too sweet), most cheese (too many carbs), or even high fiber carbs. I don't think it's a healthful diet for the long term.

[Lex]

26. I ate lean meats, some tofu, and eggs along with the salads, low carb veggies

and even low carb yogurt, nuts, and sunflower seeds, etc.

[applegrove]

31. Where do you get low carb yogurt? Cause according to my atkins book yogurt is very high in carbs.

[Lex]

41. Look at the grocery store at the low sugar yogurts.

They won't have a lot of carbs. The regular yogurts have a ton of sugar in them, so be careful.

[applegrove]

51. Good idea. I'll save the yogurt as a treat after my induction phase is over.

[grasswire]

54. If you have a Trader Joe's in your area...

....they have DELICIOUS no-fat greek yogurts that are very low carb. Also no-fat cottage cheese with few carbs -- it makes a great snack. I love to have a scoop of no-fat cottage cheese and a glass of V-8 and a couple of crackers.

[applegrove]

28. I'm aware that it isn't a long term diet. But learning to stay away from refined carbohydrates

isn't such a bad thing. I like the idea that the atkins maintenance diet emulates what we ate when we were hunters and gatherers. Plus I'm looking forward to having increased energy cause right now I'm lazy. And I pig out on food. So I think I'm actually addicted to sugar.

[applegrove]

29. I'm aware that it isn't a long term diet. But learning to stay away from refined carbohydrates

isn't such a bad thing. I like the idea that the atkins maintenance diet emulates what we ate when we were hunters and gatherers. Plus I'm looking forward to having increased energy cause right now I'm lazy. And I pig out on food. So I think I'm actually addicted to sugar.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

32. That's the good part -- it kind of weans you away from sugar.

I do think it could be more balanced, though.

[applegrove]

33. I'm not going to go crazy in the meat department.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

34. That's good -- I'd hate to imagine you at the meat counter,

growling and snarling and tearing up a raw steak with your teeth. :D

There were times when I felt a little like that...

[applegrove]

40. What happens to your breath. I am at day one of the diet and my breath is doing funny things?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

42. Ketosis. Makes your breath smell funny. Get some sugarless gum.

[applegrove]

46. Thanks.

[Lex]

43. Yep, what The Velveteen Ocelot said. Plus drink plenty of water

and that will help too.

[applegrove]

48. Thanks. It seems to be working really fast.

[hippywife]

121. When my doc put me on the original version of this diet

years and years ago, it was all protein with zero carbs for the first week, the second week you could only have like 5 grams of carbs per day, the following week, 10. All the while checking your urine. It was not a healthy diet at all. Now I can no longer metabolize protein properly and it uric acid crystallizes in my kidneys causing stones.

Not a healthy diet at all, and I still don't give a rats ass what TommyO says about it. :rofl:


:hi:

[applegrove]

133. The version of Atkins I am doing requires you to have 20 g of carbohydrates a day, going

up by 5g after two weeks unless you want to loose more weight in which case you can stay on the 20g diet for 6 months. I'm on day three and I feel great. I've lost 3 pounds.

[hippywife]

134. You can lose 10 lbs the first week on any diet.

The man was a quack, honestly. Putting yourself into ketosis is not healthy.

[applegrove]

17. I've always been a big meat eater. My portion size for meat will actually go down

on this diet. I'm not planning on bacon and eggs every day for breakfast.

[quakerboy]

88. Yeah. Doctors say a lot of things

My wifes dr. said that she should keep taking the synthetic thyroid medication because the natural version dosnt work and is extraordinarily expensive. After 8 years of being told this by drs, she found a new one who was more open minded and willing to discuss it, and who ended up agreeing that it would be worth trying the natural. Now she sleeps about 8 hours a day instead of 12-14 and spends only half as much on the medicine.

My mom's Dr said she was fine, and just had seasonal bronchitus every year. That was why she would cough and gag til she threw up at least 5 nights a week from October to February, and pretty regularly the rest of the time. For 20 years. Until it finally got bad enough she refused to leave the hospital til they figured it out. a few days later, one half of a massively swollen thyroid was gone, and she has not had that problem since.

Your Dr said its bad. My Dr said its the same as any other diet, if you make sure to eat the healthy things within its bounds, reduce your caloric intake, and don't just revert to unhealthy diet at some point, its good for you. And that it seems to work well for a lot of diabetics.

[applegrove]

14. I have an aquaintance who went on a kytosis diet and it really worked for her long

term as she made lifestyle and food changes that she has kept up for years so that is what I'll try and emulate.

[Texasgal]

52. It's just honestly no good.

Really, following a sensible diet is the ONLY way. This may work for you short term, but in the long run it's really no good.

It's all very simple:

Fresh fruit

Fresh veggies

Whole grains

Lean protein

With excessive.

Atkins will make you fat and make your blood pressure sky rocket!

It's BAD for your body...very BAD.

[TommyO]

64. Yet real world data doesn't show that Atkins is "very BAD"

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/359/3/229

Conclusions Mediterranean and low-carbohydrate diets may be effective alternatives to low-fat diets. The more favorable effects on lipids (with the low-carbohydrate diet) and on glycemic control (with the Mediterranean diet) suggest that personal preferences and metabolic considerations might inform individualized tailoring of dietary interventions.

All groups lost weight, but the reductions were greater in the low-carbohydrate and the Mediterranean-diet groups. (Atkins didn't make the people in the study fat)

All groups had significant decreases in waist circumference and blood pressure, but the differences among the groups were not significant. (no skyrocketing blood pressure in the low-carb group, it showed a lowering of blood pressure).

[Texasgal]

118. The Atkins diet

nohwere NEARS a real Mediterranean diet.

You know this...yes?

[TommyO]

124. Did you bother to read anything from the NEJM link that I provided?

You know, real data? Real results? Real doctors saying that it was effective and safe?

Probably not.

[Texasgal]

119. The Atkins diet

nowhere NEARS a real Mediterranean diet.

You know this...yes?

[we can do it]

93. BAd for Kidneys Too It Nearly Caused a Friend of Mines Mom To Go On Dialasys

[EndersDame]

19. The way I look at is The Atkins Diet is good for Cats and Dogs

My cats have special food that extremely low carbohydrate and high protein. We humans need more variety and veggies in our lives

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

22. I stayed on Atkins by determining whether the food I was considering

was something my cats would eat. The problem was that the cats always wanted everything I was eating, instead of just some of my food.

[EndersDame]

35. My sweet Grady (a cat)who died of diabetes recently , I have learned alot about feline nutrition

My other two babies are on Premium grain free kibble ! They have some carbs but they come from Peas apples carrots and dried chicory root rather than hydrogenated corn starch , wheat, and soy

http://www.evopet.com/products/default.asp?id=1704

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

37. Crappy cat food can make cats diabetic.

I feed mine Wellness, which is grain free. An Atkins-type diet is very good for cats.

[GoCubsGo]

97. You mean "Catkins"...

I am convinced that the grain fillers, especially corn, are the main reason there are so many diabetic cats out there. When I could afford it, I put my kitties on grain-free. They loved Serengeti and Indigo Moon. Lost weight, too. Now, they get corn/soy/wheat-free kibble, and grain-free canned. Fortunately, they store brand versions of the "Gourmet" varieties of Fancy Feast are also grain-free. They're decent and inexpensive. Or, you can buy the Fancy Feast... The kibble is a bit pricey, but cheaper than treating a sick cat in the long run.

[Skittles]

53. it's absolutely insane

that diet has been recycled so many damn times - it's a wonder people keep falling for it

[EndersDame]

16. REFINED carbs are bad!Fresh veggies fruit and whole grains in sensible portions are Good along with

exercise! I joined a gym a few months ago and feel great! I cant recommend it enough!

[Captain Hilts]

67. An exercise routine is not a good combination with the Atkins diet. My gym warns people not to do

that.

[TommyO]

79. Provide the evidence

[quakerboy]

89. If the gym says it, it must be true

My local gym guy said that everyone should be taking protein powder supplements. and that eating is bad because it ruins tone. and that when you need to feel good about yourself you should stop drinking anything with water for a day so that the bloating will go away and your muscles will stand out below the skin better.

He also wrote an essay regarding why all men should wear only bikini briefs.

I shan't be trusting the gym for my information. How about you find some real scientific research to back up what you are saying.

Edit for spelling.

[HopeHoops]

18. Um, why? That's the dumbest fad diet since the "All soda diet".

To be fair, the REAL Atkins diet is boring and expensive and pretty much nobody follows it, but if you DID follow it, you might drop a few pounds before putting on much more weight than you lost.

Unfortunately, the common interpretation is "eat as much fatty meat as possible and avoid anything else", which isn't what it really says, but that's what all the fad idiots seem to think it means.

If you want to lose weight, stay the hell away from meat. It is a simple rule.

[Kali]

25. oh for fuck's sake

will you knock it off? what an ignorant thing to say

edit to clarify: agree with you about fad dieting, the meat comment was ignorant

[HopeHoops]

30. Meat makes you fat - what part of that don't you understand?

:shrug:

[janx]

36. Meat, in low doses, does not make you fat.

High fat meat makes you fat. :shrug:

[XemaSab]

130. I've been vegetarian for 10 years

and I've been gaining weight the whole time.

[EndersDame]

38. I went back to being veggie and almost all dairy and lost 10lbs without even trying

That was before I joined the gym. My weight has stayed the same but my clothes fit much better! :) I am now in the market for a dairy free protein supplement that does not cost an arm and a leg

[flvegan]

55. What are you looking to get from that supplement?

Soy and hemp...even pea protein are great alternatives right now.

[Kali]

47. excess calories consumed and not burned make you fat

they can come from ANYTHING
you can starve to death on meat, get fat on fruit
the FACT is a normal, well balanced, varied diet that contains meat is absolutely fine. It is in beyond fine, it is optimal.

"meat makes you fat" is beyond ignorant

[GoCubsGo]

74. Yep.

I rarely eat meat, partly for economic reasons, and my dairy intake is fairly low. I am overweight, because I stress eat, not because of meat consumption. If I write everything down, stick to around 1200-1400 calories per day and put in an hour of cardio per day plus strength training 2-3 times per week, I lose weight regardless of what I eat. I like variety and try to keep it healthy, but I don't eliminate anything from my diet, other than processed crap. Some things I eat or drink only occasionally, like a glass of wine or sweets.

A couple of web sites I find very helpful:

http://www.sparkpeople.com/

http://www.realage.com/


Both sites will show you why it's crazy to eliminate certain foods or food groups from your diet. They have loads of other great diet and fitness tips, as well.

[MiddleFingerMom]

45. Ask me anything!

.
.

[MiddleFingerMom]

49. Ask me anything! (Take 2)

.
Um... ... you gonna eat that?
.

[applegrove]

50. What was your favorite snack on this diet?

[flvegan]

56. Why anyone would put themselves through such a fad pile of shit, I'll never know.

Might as well pump a tanks' worth of diesel into your car's "petrol only" gas tank.

Oh, but you wouldn't do that. You know better.

Glad your car has more worth than you do.

It's called nutrition. Look it up.

[applegrove]

107. You do take some supplements when you are on Atkins induction phase of dieting.

3 servings of veggies and the same amount of tuna or an egg.

[old mark]

57. IT's actually very good when you get used to it. I have been on a similar diet

since late summer, and I feel much better and have a lot more energy, and am slowly losing weight, which I had not been able to do for years.
My cardiologist put me on the diet to help with diabetes.

mark

[Captain Hilts]

68. Your brain needs glucose to function properly. nt

[quakerboy]

90. Its an awefull good thing your body can make glucose

out of protein then, huh? Otherwise Atkins might not be good for you on that basis.

[old mark]

108. My glucose is always near 300 without insulin and this diet - has been for years,

never been low. I start to feel funny at around 110, which for me is quite low.

mark

[Captain Hilts]

58. Watch out, it slows down your brain. Really. This happens faster if you work out. nt

[BeachBaby]

60. I started the Atkins diet on February 1, 2002.

By November 1, 2002, I had lost 65 pounds.

By my year anniversary (February 1, 2003), I had lost 88 pounds.

Almost 7 years later, I only gained 8 of it back. And that was because I went too low in the first place.

If you stick with it, and do EXACTLY WHAT HE SAYS, it will work.

I'm not sure that cauliflower - or ANY veggie - was allowed in the first two weeks. I may be wrong, but I remember only eating cheese and eggs that first two weeks. It sucked, but after the two weeks was up, all was good.

Good luck to you! :)

[applegrove]

103. I know cauliflower wasn't allowed in week one but I had some anyways.

You are allowed lots of salad (3 cups) or 2 cups of salad and a serving of low carb veggies with your protein in week one.

[hedgehog]

70. I tried the Atkins diet, and I was climbing the walls. I wasn't hungry,

just climbing the walls. I went to my psychiatrist and added a SSRI to my cocktail and felt better.

The Atkins diet as a check for low seratonin levels, is that an FDA approved application?

[Grey]

71. Have you looked up

lowcarbfriends.com Lots of ideas you can use with help and support thrown in for good measure?

[Mendocino]

76. I eat a modified Atkins diet.

I replace the meat with whole grains, legumes, veggies and fruits. Tastes great and very filling. :)

[rcrush]

83. Lets fry up some bacon!

[applegrove]

104. I'm going to skip the daily bacon and eggs breakfast. I'll try and have a egg and some salad instead

[hippywife]

84. What eveyone is telling you about it being unhealthy is true.

My dad and I both did the Atkins diet years ago. Now we both spawn uric acid kidney stones on a very regular basis and have for years. Not fun.

Stick to nutrition, smaller portions and exercise.

And any diet, no matter what, will make you lose 10 lbs. in a week without effort because all you're losing is water at that point. You need to go by inches lost, not just pounds, especially when you begin to exercise a lot.

[TommyO]

86. Yet doctors who have studied this disagree with you

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/359/3/229

In this 2-year dietary-intervention study, we found that the Mediterranean and low-carbohydrate diets are effective alternatives to the low-fat diet for weight loss and appear to be just as safe as the low-fat diet. In addition to producing weight loss in this moderately obese group of participants, the low-carbohydrate and Mediterranean diets had some beneficial metabolic effects, a result suggesting that these dietary strategies might be considered in clinical practice and that diets might be individualized according to personal preferences and metabolic needs. The similar caloric deficit achieved in all diet groups suggests that a low-carbohydrate, non–restricted-calorie diet may be optimal for those who will not follow a restricted-calorie dietary regimen. The increasing improvement in levels of some biomarkers over time up to the 24-month point, despite the achievement of maximum weight loss by 6 months, suggests that a diet with a healthful composition has benefits beyond weight reduction.

[hippywife]

92. I don't care. Experts have been and are frequently wrong.

Previous to the Adkins diet, neither of us had kidney stones, and there is no history of kidney stone formation in our family at all. Yet, now I have to take allopurinol and watch my protein intake since doing that diet.

Diets that focus on one group of foods to the exclusion of others, is never a good idea for your body. And ketosis is not a healthy state to put ones self into to burn fat.

[TommyO]

94. I'll take peer-reviewed science over anecdotal evidence

and claims that it's evil and will rot your brain, kidneys, or any of the other specious claims here.

[hippywife]

95. Whatever, they're your kidneys. Do what you want to them. n/t

[TommyO]

96. My kidneys are just fine, but thank you for feigning concern.

[hippywife]

98. Not concerned in the least. n/t

[Scout]

111. my brother in law has had kidney stones for years ... and he's NEVER been

on the atkins diet. and his daughter has them too, same thing, no atkins diet. :shrug:

i'll take your criticisms with a large grain of salt, since you can't even spell the name of the diet correctly.

[sakabatou]

87. Just be set with changes in your digestive system

[quakerboy]

91. Are you drinking water?

Water is pretty important. Even if you were on no diet whatsoever, you should be drinking lotsa water.

[mike_c]

99. I lost nearly 40 pounds on the Atkins diet nearly ten years ago...

...but it simply wasn't a lifestyle change I could sustain, and frankly, even trying likely exacerbated some significant health issues of mine, i.e. gout and liver problems. Still, it took the weight off pretty effectively.

Nonetheless, after a couple of years I gained it all back.

Now I'm taking it off again, but much more slowly and sustainably. I've SLOWLY reduced my calorie intake, and still have a ways to go with that, but aside from avoiding empty calories and processed foods, which is not a big problem for me because I've always eaten GOOD food, for the most part, just too much of it, I'm just slowly changing my diet in ways that I actually enjoy. Eating a bit less, eating more plant based foods and less meat, choosing low fat alternatives whenever possible, and so on. We eat lots of fresh fruits and veggies.

The biggest improvements for me have been in the amount of exercise I get. My SO and I joined a local gym and we've helped one another be serious about keeping an exercise schedule. She has lost thirty or forty pounds, and while I've only lost about 25-- this is over nearly a year-- I've built a significant amount of muscle mass, so I've probably lost just about as much fat as my partner, and I'm suddenly in the best shape I've been in for ten years or more. Just starting slowly, adding more exercise when I felt up to it, and not harshing on myself for taking the time, I'm getting much better. A bunch of related health issues are simply taking care of themselves, and although I still have a ways to go to reach my "ideal" weight, I'm on a steady trajectory in that direction, and have already achieved significant health gains.

Good luck to you. The biggest revelation for me was coming to understand that it isn't something you can reasonably do for quick results-- instead, it's a lifetime change. Eventually, we'll get there, and when we do, we'll stay healthy instead of vacillating back and forth from year to year.

[Demoiselle]

100. I tried Atkins about 8 years ago.

The guide I used suggested I test for ketosis...which you're supposed to have when you're on Atkins, apparently.
I did it for an exact week.
Then the kidney stone happened.
I've never had one before in my life. Or since.
I spent the night in the hospital on a morphine drip, and ultimately passed it.
I asked my urologist if Atkins could have caused it in a week and he said yes. He's known cases where the stone forms in 24 hours.

It's just one person's story and many don't have such awful side effects. But as you might imagine, I've never tried Atkins again.

[Lex]

105. drinking plenty of water while on Atkins or South Beach is key

or kidney stones are a possibility

[Demoiselle]

113. I drank plenty of water. I followed all the rules. I grew a kidney stone in one week.

[Lex]

114. My sister-in-law had one too and never has been on Atkins.

Could be coincidental too.

[Demoiselle]

115. That's not what the urologist said.

[Lex]

116. LOL. Funny the urologist could tell what caused it.

No doctor knows for certain what causes kidney stones in a person. But if it makes you feel better to think the urologist knew for sure . . .

[RedCloud]

109. How mant sheets could a sheet slitter slit if a sheet slitter could slit sheets?

[MissMillie]

110. I recommend South Beach diet instead

You'll do 2 weeks pretty similar to Atkins, but then you'll learn to incorporate healthy fiber-filled grains back into your diet and to do so in appropriate portions.

And the fats they recommend are very good for your heart. (The diet was, after all, created by a cardiologist).

[applegrove]

117. I bought a book on the South Beach diet when I bought the two books on atkins.

Though I haven't read it yet. I think they've added legumes and nuts into the 3rd week on atkins. I think the two diets are learning from each other as they compete.

[TommyO]

125. Dr Atkins was also a cardiologist

[lukasahero]

112. Amazing amount of advice given when what you asked for were questions

not answers...

Anyway, good luck with your diet. How did you prepare the cauliflower? It's a great vegetable and works in so many dishes. I often use it instead of potatoes and am always looking for recipes.

:hi:

[applegrove]

120. My dad likes storebought alfredo sauce on cauliflower (he doesn't like pasta).

The last time I cooked it I cut up the cauliflower and put each sprig in a baking dish. Then I ladeled a tbsp of alfredo sauce over the top of each sprig. I baked it for an hour at 350. The cauliflower was a little carmelized when I took it out but it was tender and done properly.

[lukasahero]

122. Nice idea

I have to admit, I don't do 'store bought' anything any more (easy-enough, cheaper, healthier to make your own) but I would make store bought anything for my dad if that's what he liked. :) I can see the appeal of the carmelized cauliflower. I'll have to try that (with my own alfredo sauce, of course. ;) ) Thanks for the tip - and good luck with your diet. Be sensible. :hi:

[applegrove]

123. I will. Thanks I'm on day 3 and I like it so far. I'm not hungry.

[TommyO]

126. Try roasting cauliflower with just a bit of oil, coarse salt and pepper

It's heavenly!

[applegrove]

127. Oh that does sound good. I did mine in the toaster overn so there was a bit of roasting

going on.

[Tailormyst]

131. I started today ! Good luck to you!!!

I did a similar sort of diet a long time ago and it was the only thing that ever worked for me.

[applegrove]

132. I lost 3 pounds yesterday. Most of it is water I am sure. But yeah I'm hopeful this will work for me

[tammywammy]

135. I suggest looking into an ayurvedic type of diet. n/'t

[doc03]

136. I tried it, at first it was cool to eat all the meat

you wanted but it soon lost its appeal for me. I lost weight for about 2 weeks then just hit a wall and didn't lose any more then once I went off it I gained back twice as much immediately. A friend of mine went on the Atkins and lost about 60 lbs. he went on vacation and went off the diet for a while but he continued to lose weight for weeks, after a trip to the doctor he discovered he had liver cancer and died two months later. He lost a lot of weight 320# all the way down to 150# when he died. I have tried them all, I have had my best success eating 1 sub a day, vegetables and drinking generic slim fast if I get hungry in between.