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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:33 PM
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I know it's wrong to hate, but...
Sometimes someone does something SO heinous...

End of rant. That is all. Sorry.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:45 PM
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1. Some day you're going to have to forgive Paul Reubens and move on with your life
Did it never occur to you that that monkey needed spanking?
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:50 PM
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Thank you for the laugh. I needed that.
As an aside, I always thought he made enough money to rent some videos.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:50 PM
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2. Edited
Edited on Sun Jan-03-10 06:55 PM by av8rdave
Oops. Dupe.
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Doc_Technical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 11:54 PM
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21. "I'm pulling for Pee Wee"
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:51 PM
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3. Sometimes it's not wrong. What was it?
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:54 PM
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4. Probably shouldn't say on here
Suffice it to say it was terrible...an act taken against those who don't deserve it. Some people will eat their young.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:55 PM
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5. Forgiveness is vastly overrated.
Revenge is so much better.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:57 PM
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7. Don't want revenge. Just want it made right.
Not sure it can be.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:57 PM
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6. Some people deserve hating.
They say hate puts dents in your karma, but you're right; some things (and people) are too awful to not hate.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:01 PM
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10. I'm trying to hate the deed not the person, but
These are my kids that are affected.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:02 PM
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11. That's different. I think you get a pass on the karma in that case.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:05 PM
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13. You would be shocked if you knew the story
Not sure I will get past the seething stage.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:15 PM
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14. Even without knowing the story, I think I hate them.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:16 PM
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15. Thank you
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:59 PM
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8. I know exactly how you feel.
:hug:

I still haven't cured myself of revenge fantasies against the monster that raped my friend with cerebral palsy.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:42 PM
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18. Very justified in that case!
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:00 PM
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9. disagree with you about it being wrong to hate, its a perfectly human thing to do
sometimes its a needed emotion in order to survive, in real life all the kumbaya in the world sometimes isnt enough. So hate with a heat comparable to the sun and dont eat yourself up about it...
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:02 PM
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12. Thank you for some very thoughtful advice
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:30 PM
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16. Ok, seriously, I've spent some time in my life thinking about the diff. between anger & hate
But when you see a deep injustice, when you see someone has intentionally inflicted this injustice... maybe the time isn't quite right to make those sorts of distinctions. Anger, I'm arguing, is natural, a reaction. Hate is a choice. But really, in the heat of a moment I don't think you need to make that kind of hair splitting.

I don't know the situation, so of course I'm imagining the worst. But right now just be pissed off. Or just be all huggy with the kids who've been injured (if I'm reading this right).

I had a friend a number of years ago who found out that his daughter, then 16 or 17, was being molested--I'm guessing probably also raped--by his ex-wife's new husband. He was telling me about this a couple of years later, mind you. My first reaction was pretty typical; I said, "Damn, Bill, you must have been ready to kill that bastard." But then what Bill said blew me away.

He said, "You know, right then I didn't need to be angry. My daughter didn't need revenge, she needed someone to look out for her and take her some place to be safe and loved."

Until he said that, I didn't realize what an evolved guy Bill was. I'm not saying that that's the way you oughta react. Feel your feelings; they're more than justified if someone's being an asshole to your kids. I'm just saying you have a range of options on how to play this out--probably more than you think--even if you can't effect the main thing that's hurt them. This may be one of those moments when your kids get to learn what unconditional love means.

I hope next week turns out better for you, whatever may come tonight.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:41 PM
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17. Thanks!
This isn't as awful as what you describe, thankfully. But they (kids...adults now) have just had a parent so irreparably hurt them and their relationship with that parent. A deliberate act that can only be described as a cruel attack. Life will never be quite the same for them.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:49 PM
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19. Sorry! I didn't know it was your last beer!
GEEEEEEZZZ!!
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targetpractice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 09:13 PM
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20. Me, too... But...
I really HATE David Gregory's interview style. He's such a binary thinker with his "If you don't agree with A, then you must believe B" bullshit.
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kimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 12:22 AM
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22. Bottling up feelings never works well
Edited on Mon Jan-04-10 12:24 AM by kimi
but as in everything, moderation is the key, IMO. I think you're being very level-headed about this (whateve it is), and since kids are involved, that makes most sense.
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