If that BCS "title" game didn't convince you that a playoff isn't needed...

[JanMichael]

...then you are an idiot.

Texas lost their Heisman winning QB like on the 5th play. They had a freshman QB (a real f'ing freshman - like 18 years old or so) take his place and the game was close until the last 3:00 minutes before the fumble. Huh? Dominance my ass.

Close against that "awesome" Alabama defense that shut down Florida and Christ (Tebow) yet gave up big pass plays against a freshman????? And a team that NEBRASKA shut down offensively????

Nebraska shut DOWN Colt McCoy and Texas just 30 days ago - how good is that Alabama defense again?

Florida was smothered by Alabama 3 weeks ago and a freshman got comfy in the second half and made it a game?

Horseshit to the "BCS".

That's all.


EDIT: NO, that is not "all". If I had a fortune I'd offer 20 millions dollars to Alabama and Boise State to play in a special game two weeks from now. Alabama might win, might, they may also get their asses handed to them by Boise State sorta like Utah did last year.

[GOPisEvil]

1. Who won? IBM? Xerox?

[JanMichael]

3. Linus kicked the winning field goal. nt

[bigwillq]

2. Alabama won.

Whether it's by 1 or 100. Whether they gave up 600 yards or 60. Alabama was the better team tonight. I agree that some sort of playoff would enhance the game. Top 8 teams or so, or even Top 16. Start beginning of Dec. and play the final around this time Jan, 6 or Jan. 7

[JanMichael]

4. They only won because McCoy was out.

And I hate Texas (the football team) in general. I only wanted them to win because I hate Florida even more and it would show how they both suck.

[bigwillq]

5. We will never know.

I am not a fan of those "they only won because of this"...not Alabama's fault. They did what they had to do. They won the game. I am a fan of neither team, but no one knows how it would've turned out if this one or that one played an entire game. McCoy should've gutted it out. He looked fine on the sideline. It's your last freaking college game!! Unless he saw the $$$$$ signs of the NFL, and, in that case, then I am glad he lost.

[JanMichael]

7. True but it showed what paper "tigers" the "Tide" are.

And in connection the "Gators" and the SEC and all of the pimped up franchise perennial teams (like Notre Dame and USC and Penn State and ...) for that matter.

[bigwillq]

9. Alabama is unbeaten.

They accomplished all of their goals. Can't ask for anything more out of them. They won. They did what they came to that field to do. Would've, should've, could've, ifs and buts. Don't matter. Alabama won. They were the better team and they deserved it.

[JanMichael]

12. Boise State did the same. nt.

[JanMichael]

14. 14 games not a measly 13 too:-)

[joeybee12]

37. No, they lost to Tennesee, if the refs hadn't been paid off...

...what a fucking joke.

[bigwillq]

39. Ifs and buts...

:P

[lazarus]

43. I've asked before

but, what specific calls were made that gave the Tennessee game to Alabama?

[Tikki]

41. +100

[bigwillq]

6. McCoy lost it all on his own for his team.

Even though Colt McCoy’s injury wasn’t serious enough to send him to the hospital, he’s not going to play during the rest of the game. With a 13-0 record, the injury could cost his team their unbeaten streak.

Alabama has taken football by storm this year, and is even responsible for the meltdown of Tim Tebow – who was seen crying after Florida’s loss to Alabama at the SEC championship game.

So far, Colt McCoy’s x-rays are said to be negative, and that the shoulder injury could be a sprain. The trainers won’t let him back in the game, as they need to make sure that they confirm that the injury isn’t serious. After all, this young man has a possible NFL career to worry about!

For now, Colt McCoy’s injury doesn’t appear to be too awful bad. Let’s just hope it doesn’t have permanent repercussions for the promising young football player.


http://www.techbanyan.com/8039/colt-mccoy-injury-update-mccoy-bcs-championship-sidelines/


Not serious. Negative. If you have to live for the present. The future is uncertain. Looks like McCoy choose an uncertain future, rather than helping his team win a national championship.

[Writer]

8. Actually Colt said that he literally could not feel his arm. That it's dead.

So I really don't see how he could throw if he can't feel his throwing arm.

[bigwillq]

10. Looked pretty animated to me on the sideline.

Hey, if the kid couldn't play, he couldn't play. I don't know the extent of the injury. Just going by what I read and saw. But it's insulting to say that Alabama only won because McCoy didn't play. No one knows that Texas would've won if McCoy stayed in. Maybe they do. Maybe they don't. No one knows.

[Writer]

15. His throwing arm is his right arm. Catch the highlight reels, if you can.

I'm not going to be classless and say Alabama didn't deserve the win, but don't kick an injured quarterback for staying out of the game because HE CAN'T FEEL HIS ARM.

[rurallib]

42. but the schools are concerned about the athletes education

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Captain Hilts]

11. No, we don't "need" a playoff. The season should not cover BOTH academic semesters. nt

[JanMichael]

13. Then cut out a couple of games and get rid of "conference" championships!

33 or 36 or whatever "bowl" games? That's fucking stupid.

[bamacrat]

20. You know nothing about college football if you want to "get rid of 'conference' championships."

That would be the only way to accurately decide a playoff. Conference champions go to the playoff. The right thing if they wanted a playoff would be to have a 10 game season, make ALL conferences have a championship game and the winners of the SEC, Big 12, Big 10, ACC, Big East, and PAC 10 would go, then have two at large teams so the Boise's and TCU's could get in if they earned it. But still have bowl games for those not making it to the playoffs. Each team that lost would play in the better bowls against other losers until the two that remain would play for the national championship. Big bitching that this is not legitimate because of no playoffs is like bitching because Obama hasn't changed anything; its not going to change anything.

ROLL TIDE ROLL

[joeybee12]

38. Gee, someone quite unknowledgable telling someone they know nothing...

...conference championships are relatively new...they weren't needed in the past, and they arent' needed now.

[bamacrat]

46. I know College football.

Conference championships have been around for around 20 years and there have been fewer problems with a deserving champion than ever before. Before conference championships there were multiple teams that claimed a championship due to the fact that their was not conference championship game thus multiple teams from the same conference would claim the championship. After conference championships were created there was a definitive winner to the conferences that elected to have one. The winner of those if still undefeated or ranked highly enough got to play for the National Championship. Bama vs. Miami in January of 93 was a perfect example. Prior to championships multiple sources named champions. The games narrowed the field of available candidates and when this happened a national championship games was created. They rotated between the top tier bowls until the BCS was created.

If they aren't needed now Mr. Warner, then what would you have done in the SEC this year. Would Bama and Florida have played for the National Championship or would all the undefeated teams played bowl games and a champion named. Im sure you want a playoff but that isnt and never has been used in D-1 College Football, so therefore by your argument that conference championships are not needed playoffs aren't either.

Conference championships are needed and help name the correct champion.

Dont challenge my knowledge of college football.

[JackDragna]

16. Bah.

So it was a close game? And that means we need a playoff? By that logic, nearly every BCS game means we need one. Texas was a good team, even with a backup QB. Some of them can even play. A playoff means nothing in a sport with over 100 eligible teams.

[Radical Activist]

17. The whole premise of football rankings or championships is flawed.

In baseball or basketball the same team plays three or four times in a row and there's rarely a sweep. Football would be the same way if they played more than once a week. The fact that one team beats another in ONE game proves nothing. It's ridiculous to pretend anyone knows which team is best.

[bamacrat]

21. Football isn't like baseball or basketball, its physical.

You cant play more than one a week people would be be hurt all the time.

[bamacrat]

18. Colt never won a Heisman. Plus football is a physical game and Bama's D is the most physical.

Which is why he got hurt. Sucks he did wish we could have beaten them with McCoy, but their #1 rushing D gave up 220 yards on the ground. Also this team is not last years team. Our quarterback is smarter than JPW our running backs are better our defense is better. We are better. A defense is supposed to stop a team, either by shutting down their plays or by putting key players out. Bama is the best team in the country. Had Boise St played the same schedule we played they would not have been where they got to. Stop whining.

[Writer]

19. Classy. n/t

[bamacrat]

23. Does the truth about football offend you?

I hate that McCoy got hurt, and I think they did the right thing not letting him play to preserve the potential of his pro-career. But, people get hurt playing football.

[Writer]

25. No, but I do hope that you enjoy your win and your evening. n/t

[Zomby Woof]

22. Alabama is much better than they played tonight

They were uncharacteristically conservative. I thought Saban had been replaced by Schottenheimer, who always goes soft in the important games. What it came down to, is that Alabama played a sub-par game against a compromised opponent and still came out on top. So the mutual weaknesses evened each other out.

Still, hand it to Ingram and the ground game. Texas can't use McCoy's absence as an excuse for their defensive failures.

[bamacrat]

24. Thank you. McCoy didnt play defense.

I wish he could have played but the D should have stopped Bama but couldnt. RTR

[jobycom]

28. Did you see the game, by any chance?

Bama scored 17 points on offense until the game was over and Texas gave up. Texas's defense slaughtered them, and only caved in at the end when they were trying to strip the ball instead of tackle, when the game was basically over.

[lazarus]

29. over 200 yards rushing

vs a defense that gave up only 60some yards per game in the pass happy Big 12. Bama scored twice on offense in the second quarter, then put it away late when Texas still had a chance. Texas' D didn't cave, they were beat down, the way all defenses we played all year were.

[jobycom]

30. You should have watched the game, it was pretty good.

Texas and Bama gave up almost identical total yards--276 to 263. Texas gave up 17 points on offense until they turned the ball over on the three with 3 minutes to go. It took Bama three tries to score from the three, and that put the game out of reach at 10 points with 2 minutes left. Gilbert threw another interception on the 27 with 1:48 left. Texas tried to strip the ball more than tackle on the next two plays, but they had given up then.

[lazarus]

31. I've watched it twice

'Bama scored at will until they went conservative in the third and fourth quarter. Texas' vaunted defense gave up many more rushing yards than they averaged, as I had predicted before the game. Their rushing defense was overrated, and 'Bama simply wasn't interested in passing, as they were more interested in clock management. I just watched it again, and didn't notice any attempts to strip the ball at the expense of tackling.

Bama had a subpar game and still won big.

[jobycom]

32. That's just silly.

17 points isn't "scoring at will." Bama got the ball 7 times in the first half, punted three times, threw an interception on a faked a punt another, settled for a field goal on another. That's not counting that muffed kickoff thingie. They scored two touchdowns. They couldn't score in the third and fourth quarter because Texas's defense wouldn't let them, and even when Texas pulled within three and the game was on the line they couldn't get a first down. They converted on two of twelve third down attempts, and one of those was when they got the ball on the three and took three plays to score--and barely did.

And of course Texas gave up more rushing yards than they rushed. They don't rush. Their leading rusher had like 500 yards all season. Their second leading rusher was McCoy. It's a pass offense.

Bama and Texas had almost equal total yards, and gave up close to the same number of points on offense(21-24), aside from the last tacked-on TD when the game was out of reach.

Bama won a good game, but not because of Texas's defense. The story of this game will forever be that McCoy's injury changed everything. Doesn't change the national championship--Bama earned that all season, not just in one game--and there's no way to say Texas would have won with McCoy. But there's nothing to say they would have lost, either.

[lazarus]

44. It's not that Bama rushed more than Texas

it's that Bama rushed for over three times the average that Texas gave up on the ground during the regular season. That was the game plan for Alabama. And Texas couldn't stop it.

[bamacrat]

45. As did I and you are right. Saban said himself their gameplan changed when McCoy got hurt.

These Texas fans are just bitter and I dont blame them. Had Ingram got hurt and our D would have laid down for a half and got behind and beat then I would probably made excuses too. But, when a player gets hurt it is up to the rest of the team to step up. Texas didnt, because they thought it was over. Bama did too, they played the most conservative game ever played they were trying to run out the clock and not make another quarterback cry like they did Tebow. When Gilbert got some confidence Texas started to play again then Bama put a stop to it. Bama would have won regardless, definitely would have been a close game, probably within 7 points. But we would have played different. We would have thrown more than 11 times. Our D would have been tighter, and not put the second and third string safeties in, which is who Shipley scored on. Texas's D was decent in the end but laid down after McCoy got hurt and we struck. Had they stood strong it may have been closer. We have a much stronger more physical defense, and a more balanced offense (usually).

Bama won. Football is physical, people get hurt. Sucks but thats the game. Didnt knock everyone out. Bama still scored 30 points against their defense.

[jobycom]

27. So is Texas.

Both coaches got very conservative on offense. Brown didn't trust his freshman QB. Saban played conservative to not give Texas's defense a chance to beat him. Texas scores a lot on defense, and Saban figured Texas's offense without McCoy wasn't much of a threat. So he chewed up clock and protected the ball, rather than risk a big play by the defense.

If McCoy had played, both teams would have been more aggressive on offense and it would have been a different game.

And Ingram was impressive, but Texas didn't fail on defense. Alabama's offense scored 17 points until those final two scores, and those were both caused by Texas's offense turning the ball over deep in their own territory. I think they converted only twice on 3rd downs, and once was that TD from the 4 yard line.

[jobycom]

26. You pretty much proved we don't need one.

Texas played Nebraska, Alabama played Florida... What else would a playoff prove?

Oh yeah, and if we had a playoff system, Texas might not have played Nebraska because they were barely ranked, and they'd need that 11th game for one of the playoff spots, and Florida might not have played Alabama for the same reason, and someone would still have to pick who was going to play in the playoffs and someone would still get left out and someone who didn't deserve it would still be included, and you'd wind up with the two best teams playing in the semifinal and the championship being between someone like Alabama and Cincinatti, and the only thing any different would be that Boisie State would finally play a real team and lose its magic streak.

Anyway, the whole idea of a national champion in a sport with so few common opponent matchups is silly. They ought to go back to the old bowl system and just try to get good matchups, and give up this whole fanboy fantasy stuff that smacks of junior high students arguing over whether Spiderman could beat Mickey Mouse in a fight. It's unseemly for grown men to worry that much about kids playing a game, anyway. Let the colleges decide, and tell the sports talkers to just report on the game instead of trying to change the game.

And if I had 20 million to give to a college, I'd make sure it went to educating kids rather than worrying about whether a team that barely beat TCU could beat Alabama.

[BOSSHOG]

33. A Playoff would have resulted in two SEC teams in the championship game

Year after year after year. Then the whining would be "break up the SEC." Boise State or TCU or Cincinnati would have lost to Bama (Or whomever the SEC rep would have been) last night.

I agree. Lets have a playoff system. Oh we already do. Its called the SEC championship game.

[PVnRT]

34. How would a playoff change any of that?

I'm curious as to how a playoff will keep McCoy from getting injured, or a freshman stepping up and keeping his team in the game.

[jakefrep]

35. The BCS is what jocks deserve for stuffing geeks into lockers.

Revenge of The Nerds, writ large.

[joeybee12]

36. You're right only idiots think that game last night meant anything...

once more the BCS rigs it for undeserving teams.

[oldlib]

40. I went to sleep watching.

The Rose Bowl was designed for daytime play. The stadium and the area is a beautiful site and nighttime TV viewing does not adequately display it properly. Schedule future BCS extravagances at the Rose Bowl for the daytime.