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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 08:32 PM
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Greatest guitar solo by a musician who WAS NOT the band's frontman/woman
I'm listening to Robbie Krieger's solo on "Light My Fire" and have ALWAYS considered it to be one of the top ten greatest "classic rock" solos of all time. I can play the solo, note-for-note, front to back.

So...your pick...and that means Jimi is ruled out, as is SRV...maybe Clapton too, depending on the band (I always considered Jack Bruce to be the frontman for Cream).

:toast:

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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 08:44 PM
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1. Richard Thompson's solo on the Golden Palominos Dying From the Inside Out
Or any of the other solos he did with that band
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 08:48 PM
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3. And in an AMAZING COINCIDENCE...
...I heard that song in the car today on a mix CD I brought with me.

Further proof of that "great minds think alike" thing.

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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 08:46 PM
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2. Does John Entwistle count? My Generation..?
Or from Quadrophenia, how about "The Real Me"? Amazing Bass, how sweet the sound!
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 08:50 PM
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4. I always thought "The Real Me" was Entwistle's single greatest performance.
No one's topped that solo. No one. What Jaco Pastorious was to jazz, Entwistle was to rock.

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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 08:58 PM
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6. Name drop time...
We met the Who in 1980, when I was in an all-girl band, and our bass player asked Entwistle: "What advice do you have for me?"

He crooked his finger to bring her closer, and eyes twinkling, he bent down and whispered in her ear: "Give it up."

Of course we howled with laughter, but eventually she had kids and sold her Rickenbacker. And Entwistle is no longer with us. Time passage sucks sometimes!
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 08:55 PM
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5. By not the "frontman" you mean not the lead guitarist, not the actual frontman.
Like for example, the frontman for Kiss is Paul Stanley who plays guitar and the now-and-then crap solo. However, Ace Frehley may well be one of the best guitarists to play the in that genre. Ace is the accepted lead guitarist, though, but not the frontman.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:01 PM
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7. If the lead guitarist "is" the frontman, like Jimi, he's out.
Ace wasn't the frontman for KISS, but the problem there is that he was credited on a few albums he didn't appear on at all. On the so-called "reunion" album, "Psycho Circus," he's on a couple of tracks, and that's it. He's on the cover of "Creatures of the Night," but he doesn't play a single note on the album.



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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:18 PM
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12. Well, in the case of Kiss, I wouldn't bother to mention any of their post-Criss crap.
Off the top of my head, Ace's solo from "Shock Me" is pretty awesome, probably tapping long before Eddie Van Halen made it an art form in modern rock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTj4Tk79Uzk

Ace's solo starts around the 4:00 mark and runs well past 8:00.

I leave it to the others to bring up Angus Young and the aforementioned EVH solos.

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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:21 PM
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15. Rolling Stone claimed that he ripped that solo off from "Live At Leeds"
It was in their review of "Alive II." I never went back to "Live At Leeds" to prove / disprove the reviewer's claim, because Rolling Stone has never had a good word to say about the band.

I'm a fan of the first album through "Destroyer." After that, Gene and Paul can fuckin' BITE me.

:toast:

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:28 PM
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17. I was a fan through "Dynasty"
which really wasn't any good at all. Once Criss left, I stopped caring. Love Gun was their last decent record.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:36 PM
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19. Desmond Child killed KISS, and he killed Aerosmith, too...
...although I still see Aerosmith's biggest offense as that miserable Dianne Warren song "I Don't Want To Miss A Thing" from the "Armageddon" soundtrack.

When Gene and Paul got in bed with this prick, it was over. Same for Tyler and Perry.



When the primary focus becomes crafting songs / albums that will "sell," the heart drops out of the bottom.

I also remember reading in Rolling Stone that Bon Jovi pulled a bunch of high school kids into the studio when they were recording one of their albums, fed them Kentucky Fried Chicken, and asked them to pick their "favorite tracks" from the playback.

Rock & Roll was NEVER about "pleasing people."
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:11 PM
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49. I still like Lick It Up.
Even the ode to misogyny, Fits Like A Glove, is still worth a spin or two per year. :)
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:13 PM
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50. I have to admit that I LOVED Crazy Nights.
Lick It Up was okay. The genre at the time, it fit. But it wasn't Kiss. But then, Kiss hasn't been Kiss since Destroyer or Love Gun.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:25 PM
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52. I was just getting into real heavy stuff when Lick It Up came out.
I had one friend into Kiss and another into Slayer...Reign in Blood won. But the thrashy sound of Lick It Up was exactly what I was looking for. Kind of aggressive and kind of cocky all at once...me in a nutshell! I remember getting Crazy Nights and liking it, but by that time I was hooked on bands like Minor Threat and the Minutemen and Dead Kennedys, not to mention thrash stuff like Megadeth, Kreator and Destruction. Kiss just couldn't compete with the aggression and attitude of those types of bands for me. I like early Kiss for what it was (100,000 Years still kicks ass), but by the time thrash took hold Kiss was history for me.

I still think Kiss Alive is awesome though, a million overdubs or not. :)

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:36 PM
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55. I was (sadly) the exact opposite.
Yeah, I was engrossed in whatever AC/DC was doing at the time, but the glam/hairmetal scene was it for me at the time. And Kiss' marketing genius machine jumped right into it.

Kiss Alive II was the second album (well, double) I ever bought in my life.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:54 PM
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57. Here's some flashback glam bands for you....
Edited on Sat Jan-23-10 11:56 PM by Forkboy
Keel
Y&T
Loudness (who are still kind of cool...26 releases and counting)
Cinderella
Great White
Black N Blue

You can see why Slayer appealed to me... :)
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:38 PM
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21. Ace is so drunk! lol
:rofl:

Smokin' solo, though!
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:47 PM
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25. He's something, all right.
Drunk or stoned, as usual (or so the story goes from the time).
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:10 PM
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47. Ace did some cool shit. Parasite is still a fave of mine.
And that song is pretty much his. Kiss is Kiss, and one takes what they want from them, but up to and including Destroyer they did some good shit.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:03 PM
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8. Rock Bottom -- Michael Schenker (UFO, Strangers In The Night)
Edited on Sat Jan-23-10 09:14 PM by Iggo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypYkkDwJBxw

Solo starts around 3:20 and just goes and goes. Gets crazy around 7:00, and the standard guit stroking starts about 7:45 on this recording (about 8:00 on the CD).

Enjoy...
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:13 PM
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10. I'm a BIG fan of Schenker in UFO, as well as that particular album
One of the few albums that transcends the hype...belongs in a category with Deep Purple's "Made In Japan" and any other album from the era that showed supremely talented musicians at the peak of their powers.

:toast:
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:46 PM
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37. Great choice.
I remember when it 1st came out. I was in absolute awe. Still am.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:07 PM
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46. That sounded nice!
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:08 PM
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9. Mike Bloomfield : Another Country by the Electric Flag
Edited on Sat Jan-23-10 09:10 PM by abq e streeter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQsb5u_DxMQ

I love Krieger's playing too...a very underrated guitar player ( by some people anyway; not by me, or by you ,obviously)

Also, I'm not sure you could even say the Flag had a "frontman". Buddy Miles did much of the lead vocals, but certainly wasn't "out front".
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:18 PM
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14. Bloomfield NEVER got the credit / recognition he deserved in his lifetime
I've told this story on DU several times, so forgive me if you've heard it before, but...

...when San Francisco's KSAN was one of the premiere free-form "album oriented radio" stations in the country, Bill Graham used to stop by for the occasional weekend "Guest DJ" spot, usually sitting in with Ben Fong-Torres (gentleman, Rolling Stone contributor, and KSAN DJ...he played Boz Scaggs' "Silk Degrees" when it was still a test pressing and predicted "this one's going to be BIG.")

Anyway...Graham was routinely asked about his favorite track of all time, and he said that it was the title track to the Butterfield Blues Band's second album, "East-West."

:toast:
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:52 AM
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72. I loved KSAN back then...
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 11:46 AM by Stardust
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:16 PM
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11. Jeff Skunk Baxter's solo in "Bodhisattva" will always be my favorite.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:24 PM
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16. I loved his Steely Dan stuff...thought he was wasted in The Doobies.
I thought the Dan stuf was "elegant," while the Doobies stuff was "competent."

I recently tried to listen to a 2-CD Doobies compilation and was surprised by how brittle and treble-y some of the Michael McDonald-era hits were.

But in Steely Dan?

Skunk RULED.

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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:33 PM
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18. Lee Atwater's guitar teacher? A great guitarist, maybe, but something less as a human being.
I always thought Donald Fagen's line,

"Sheila's party, there's a case in point...
That right wing hooey sure stunk up the joint..."

refers to something that must have come from knowing Jeff Baxter.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:42 PM
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23. Well, Lee Atwater certainly collected his Karmic payday...and more.
He had the opportunity to lay on his deathbed, riddled with cancer, and realize he'd pissed away his life, and it was too late to do anything about it.

That's probably the worst thing I'd wish on anyone, and I don't...

...having his plans, his "life's work" turn to shit, delights me.

But until I lie in the same deathbed as Atwater (and I pray that day never comes), I think he was "paid back" in the extreme...the FAR extreme...for the life he led.

Musicians need to pay the bills. If Baxter taught Atwater, so fuckin' what. So fuckin' WHAT. Seriously.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:47 PM
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26. I can separate talent from politics
Skunk could play, I had some great times listening to his music, and whatever his opinions were in the world outside the studio doesn't really matter to me. :shrug:
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:56 PM
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29. He was never Hank Williams Jr...
...I know the regulars here have seen Williams' rewrite of his own hit, "Family Tradition," which he called "McCain Palin Tradition."

Baxter never did anything like that, but yeah, you're right. "I can separate talent from politics."

The problem with red state "musicians" like Williams, Toby Keith, Ted Nugent...once you separate the music from the politics you're left with a musician who sucks.

Baxter, on the other hand...especially in the Steely Dan context...was 100% Rock & Roll Hall of Fame material.

:toast:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:18 PM
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13. That's the best part of that song. nt
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:38 PM
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20. I like this one...sounds like Rock n Roll to...
me. It's not a long solo..does a solo have to be long to be great!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiZN5K7AR_c
"Louie, Louie"....Paul Revere and The Raiders

Tikki
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:51 PM
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27. "Stomp and shout and work it on out" INDEED.
Sadly, the guy who played that solo...Drake Levin...left us last year, but I have The Raiders right there under the first couple of layers of my SKIN...they were as real and vital to me growing up as The Beatles, The Stones, The Who...any band worth mentioning.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:39 PM
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22. Andy Kerr's solo in the Nomeansno's song Two Lips, Two Lungs and One Tongue.
It's just six notes, but done with panache. A long pause between notes 5 and 6 lol.

"You know, it reminds me of something my father once said to me...."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gtK_4gyf0M
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:45 PM
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24. "...just six notes..."
The number of notes don't matter...Neil Young crafted one of the most famous solos of all time, in "Cinnamon Girl," with ONE note. But...as the frontman...it can't be celebrated in THIS thread.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:52 PM
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28. Exactly!
It's how it works in the song, not the masterful playing.

Or at least that's what I say, as no band I like can play. ;)
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:29 PM
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35. Yeah, but Joe Perry's solo in Kings And Queens can be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUIQSy2_0Dg&feature=related

One bent note, over and over. Approx 1:40 to about 2:02.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:01 PM
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44. Oh sure, shove some gum in the works!
;)
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:56 PM
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30. A twofer - Dick Wagner and Steve Hunter on Intro/Sweet Jane.
Rock n Roll Animal - Lou Reed, 1974.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FdWPeHFAMk
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:04 PM
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33. Reed had some interesting stuff to say about that...
...but also about "Oh Jim / Sad Song" from "Lou Reed Live," from the same set of shows that produced "Rock & Roll Animal," and also featured an extended Hunter-Wagner guitar workout.

He basically said "I let them get away with it because it amuses me."

I've always felt that the reason why the late Robert Quine was able to get Lou to strap on a guitar again and wail on albums like "The Blue Mask" and those that followed is that he held up a copy of "Rock & Roll Animal" and told him "you're better than that."

You don't "reason" with Lou Reed. You don't "bargain" with him. You find his weak spot and smack it hard, and in Reed's case...DESPITE all of his bravado...that week spot is his ego.

Quine found it, smacked it, and Lou once again reported for duty. End of story.

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:01 PM
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31. I'm no musician or expert
But my favorite guitar solo evar is Supertamp's Roger Hodgson's at the end of Goodbye Stranger. I realize that most of the band's songs were credited to the team of Davies/Hogdson but the songs is Davies' so technically, Hodgson isn't the frontman on that particular tune.

Regardless, that solo makes me cry and laugh at the same time.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:01 PM
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32. Sex Pistols Steve Jones, guitar in the studio version of Anarchy In The UK.
Edited on Sat Jan-23-10 10:07 PM by old mark
Simple, right to the point absolute rock n roll. He is one of my all time favorite guitarists.
The link: http://www.last.fm/music/Sex+Pistols/_/Anarchy+in+the+UK

scroll down and click on the arrow to start the video - this
takes you to a live performance from 1996, but the guitar work is still hair raising, and the band really is HOT!!!

As Johnny Rotten said in a performance last year in London, " I'm a lucky bastard - I got the best band in the fucking world." He might be right.

mark

" I am an anti-christ, I am an anarchist....." ahh, the good old days!
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:06 PM
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34. Jones helped Iggy Pop craft one of his finest albums of all time, "Instinct."
The whole album is great, but "Cold Metal" and "Tough Baby" are right up there with the best of ANYTHING he did in The Stooges.

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 06:10 AM
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66. Steve also looks the LEAST like the classic guitar hero ideal - His dad
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 06:11 AM by old mark
was a dockworker and a boxer, and he got those genes....
I think he is one of the mose exciting and consistant guitarists in rock.

FWIW, when the Pistols recorded their album, Steve Jones had been playing guitar for 3 months.

mark
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:40 PM
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36. Eddie Hazel- "Maggot Brain"
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:21 AM
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75. I strongly concur!
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:28 PM
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111. That's what I was going to suggest, too! n/t
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Tabasco_Dave Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:51 PM
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38. Tony Iommi's intro to Into The void
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:10 AM
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58. Ah... eight-track tapes.
.
Probably destroyed more music than any other form of recording by eating
the tapes more ravenously than any bulimic in the history of the world.
.
Bill had just bought the new Black Sabbath "Masters of Reality" eight-track
and stopped by my house. We decided to play some basketball in the driveway,
so Bill put in the tape and came back up the driveway to play.
.
First song? "Sweet Leaf". When it started, Bill RAN for his car, swearing
his ass off that his tape player had eaten a recording before he had even
heard the first note.
.
If you follow the link, you'll understand why both of us literally fell
down because we were laughing so hard.
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F5C0rrncXE
.
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:40 AM
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71. Great choice. At my age, I've mellowed out a bit.
However, I still haven't relegated BS to history. Their music still sounds as fresh as it did when I was very much younger.



Rob Halford, vocalist for Judas Priest, when filling in for Ozzy Osbourne during an August 2004 concert in Philadelphia, introduced Tony Iommi to the audience as "The man who invented the heavy metal riff".
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:51 PM
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39. The more I think about it...
...I think this one is it. It kick started the whole dealio.

Rock Around The Clock -- Danny Cedrone (Bill Haley And His Comets)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud_JZcC0tHI
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:00 PM
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43. Yeah ! My god, that's 55 years ago, and still kicks ass
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:53 PM
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40. oh, I don't know, how about
Edited on Sat Jan-23-10 10:55 PM by Kali
anything by these guys?



:P trio right? no frontman?
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 03:56 PM
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87. You could have gone with one (or both) of these, also...
...because even though McLaughlin was considered to be the frontman by many (and the first album is billed as Mahavishnu Orchestra with John McLaughlin), the whole premise of the band was ensemble playing. People knew of Cobham from Miles, Goodman was in The Flock (a band that, no pun intended, never took off) and Laird and Hammer were pretty much unknowns as well. But it was still an ensemble.





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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 06:06 PM
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91. Anybody else remember the fiddle solo on THE FLOCK album?
Which was the last page of Rondo Capriccioso by Camille Saint-Saens, played really fast??
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:56 PM
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41. great short solo :Steve Cropper ; Blues Brothers version of Rawhide
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:06 PM
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45. Cropper is always nice!
This song doesn't do him justice though.

But, since we're on the topic, here's the Dead Kennedy's version of Rawhide....

"Goddamn tape's rollin'....let's go!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkcf-xXVXXY
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:17 PM
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51. I don't know; one thing I always loved about Cropper is how economical he is
this solo is a grand total of 18 seconds long but it's just...perfect.

Amazing (?) coincidence...I heard the Dead Kennedys version of Rawhide for the first time ever...yesterday. No shit.... had been thinking about Jello B. and how I'd love to see him do a spoken word performance again.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:47 PM
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56. I saw Jello on his spoken word tours in '91 and 2006.
Edited on Sat Jan-23-10 11:48 PM by Forkboy
I don't always agree with his conclusions, but I'd kill for a million more artists like him. Always interesting, controversial...and fun!

I first heard Cropper in the Blues Brothers movie, but that was enough to set me on a path of discovery. Economical is a good way to put it. Sometimes less is more, and he had knack for doing just enough. I hate wankers and those puffy shirt wearing motherfuckers who think they rule because they have the technical skill. Give me a dude like Cropper who did exactly what was called for in each song without any extraneous bullshit any day. That's the stuff that has soul.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 01:38 AM
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63. '91 sounds about right for when I saw him too
For the first maybe 15 minutes, I wasn't that impressed; I thought, hell , this isn't anything I couldn't have said just as well, but then he got rolling and it ended up being really a great performance. I don't remember if he's been back to Albuquerque since then though. If he has, I guess I pretty obviously missed him.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 03:28 PM
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84. definitely Cropper... 'Hip Hug Her ' solo is classic in it's economy
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:59 PM
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42. All others place at best a distant second...
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That incredible intro to "Sweet Jane" on Lou Reed's live "Rock n Roll Animal".
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Dick Wagner (best-known for his work with Alice Cooper and Reed) is the
guilty party.
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He had a band with regional success around Michigan called "The Frost".
Their 1969 release, "Frost Music" was the first album I ever bought...
followed CLOSELY by Led Zep's first album (still the only album of
theirs that I truly like... but I still REALLY like it).
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The "Sweet Jane" intro was dual-guitar at times. Nothing has bowled me
over that strongly since. Reed wasn't even on the stage at first (great
how you can tell when he strutted on stage at 3:33 into the song by the
crowd's reaction).
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FdWPeHFAMk&feature=related
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:11 PM
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48. oops
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Somebody had already brought this one up.
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SEE!!!! I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE!!!!
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yeah... that's the ticket.
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:29 PM
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54. No harm, no foul. Great minds think alike and all that.
Intro/Sweet Jane is one of the tunes that I hate hearing on the radio because I can't hit replay. :)
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 11:28 PM
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53. Nils Lofgren...Youngstown, with the E Street Band in 2000
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:43 PM
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81. I thought that was the highlight of 200 tour....
Love it.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:24 AM
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59. Dave Navarro in "Three Days" (Jane's Addiction)
Solo starts at 4:45 or so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmvG2GZ3S7o


This song is my religion. :D :D :D



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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:56 AM
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60. One more: Mick Taylor on Can't You Here Me Knocking.
This whole song is a masterpiece IMO, and Taylor's simple, intense solo is a fitting finale.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fa4HUiFJ6c
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 01:22 AM
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61. Was gonna post this one earlier, but...
it would have led to yet another instance of my unintentionally obnoxious ( but still obnoxious) name-dropping so I resisted the temptation. Still resisting;and this really is a great one isn't it? Both the solo and the whole song...and the whole album, which may be my very favorite Stones album, although Beggars Banquet and Out of Our Heads are real close.
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 02:05 AM
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64. Drop away my friend. You've got some great stories.
I agree. There were some flashes of brilliance in later works, but I think the Stones hit their zenith with Sticky Fingers.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 02:46 AM
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65. I was genuinely hoping you wouldn't take the bait; I'm really trying to cure myself of this
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 02:51 AM by abq e streeter
and I may very well have mentioned him before, which will make this even more annoying to anyone with the misfortune to read this...but I have actually sung this song with Bobby Keys standing next to me onstage playing the sax . I had the lyrics on a sheet of paper at the base of the mic, and he gave me this really annoyed look when he realized I hadn't memorized all the words. I had, but was nervous and didn't want to blow it. I have actually played with him at least about 15 times, but this was the only time I organized the backup band and played a bunch of Stones songs ( and blues too)( although I've played Honky Tonk Women with him probably every one of those other times). The list of people I've played with, including Bobby, in no way reflects my musical abilities nor accomplishments.I'm really not all that good,although I'm fairly versatile. I compare myself to the guy that only hits .250 but can play 2nd, short, 3rd and the outfield... It stems from both a series or chain of coincidences as well as being in New Mexico where I have been a medium sized fish in a relatively small pond. I only know Bobby because of him having family here ( I run into his brother every once in a while) and several other mutual friends. There are lots of local guys here that have also played with him. Gotta give him the credit for that( here and elsewhere). He just loves to play, and if he's not out with the Stones, he's as likely to stop in some little bar somewhere and jam the night away...If I was in a place like the Bay area or larger, I'm sure none of these things( playing with Bobby, Castro, Bo Diddley etc, and especially the opening act gigs which have ranged from blues guys like Willie Dixon, Junior wells and Albert Collins among others, to The Dixie Chicks before they were famous, Taj Mahal, Average White Band etc etc) would have ever happened. They happen to people a lot better than me in big cities. Every time I hear Bobby on the radio, I still can't believe I know the guy, and know it's only blind dumb luck that I do, and have played with him. By the way, he told me that Can't You Hear Me Knockin' was not planned to be a long jam, but that they just kept on playing while recording it and put it on the record that way. May or may not be true;I take what he tells me with a grain of salt. I've asked him 3 different times whether he was the sax on Dion's The Wanderer , as I'd heard. Once he told me that yeah, it was him, one time he said it wasn't and the other time he grinned and said "I ain't sayin'"......P.S. I agree about Sticky Fingers; they've done some great stuff since then but I think that was THE ONE.
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:06 AM
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74. Wow! OMG!!
Thank you for sharing this story. I looooove Bobby Keys, so much so, that I'm dying to learn the sax. (I'm learning guitar right now, but this is on my list of things to accomplish before I die.:) )
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:47 AM
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78. A note from abq estreeter's handlers, managers, psychiatrists, accountants and drug dealers:


please refrain from any further encouragement of his increasingly insufferable "I know this famous person; I've played with this guy" etc. obsession. We are working diligently to cure him and have had to resort to increasingly severe electroschock aversion therapy, to the point where the level now required leaves him writhing on the floor,twitching and drooling uncontrollably. Unfortunately, this seems to be how he has preferred to spend his leisure time anyway, so we are working on coming up with new methods to stop him before he bores people again. Thank you for your consideration, sincerely, Team abq. :crazy:
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:04 PM
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79. P.S...I've tried to learn guitar and couldn't do it; I think sax is easier
until of course you get to heavy duty jazz and then nothing is easy; I can play that stuff just enough to keep my head above water and that's about it. But if you ever do pick up the saxophone, Bobby and also Clarence Clemons from the E Street Band are good people to listen to. Soulful as hell, but really very straight ahead in what they play. I see that you're a Texan as is Bobby originally ( Slaton; near beautiful exotic Lubbock). If you're familiar with Joe Ely, Bobby has played with him a lot too, and there's a cool video from 1986 that has a lot of Bobby's sax, playing Ely-style Texas road house rocknroll.
Joe Ely - Live From Texas

(From rottentomatoes.com):
Runtime: 60 mins

Genre: Musical & Performing Arts
Filmed in September at Texas' oldest honky-tonk, Gruene Hall, Joe Ely performs his powerhouse brand of rock and roll with solos by guitarist David Grissom and sax player Bobby Keys. Songs include "Cool Rockin'," "Loretta," "Fingernails," "Hard Livin'," "Dallas," and several unreleased titles. ]
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:55 PM
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96. Cool! Thank you /nt
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:05 AM
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109. Dave Grissom rips some pretty hot guitar solos on that video too(he's now with the Dixie Chicks BTW)
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:44 AM
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77. A note from abq e streeter's handlers, managers, psychiatrists, accountants and drug dealers:
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 11:47 AM by abq e streeter
please refrain from any further encouragement of his increasingly insufferable "I know this famous person; I've played with this guy" etc. obsession. We are working diligently to cure him and have had to resort to increasingly severe electroschock aversion therapy, to the point where the level now required leaves him writhing on the floor,twitching and drooling uncontrollably. Unfortunately, this seems to be how he has preferred to spend his leisure time anyway, so we are working on coming up with new methods to stop him before he bores people again. Thank you for your consideration, sincerely, Team abq. :crazy:
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:18 AM
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69. What a shame the Stones & Taylor couldn't manage more than four albums together...
...I'm looking forward to the Exile on Main Street box set. There's a funny anecdote in the new issue of Rolling Stone, with Richards talking about it:

A deluxe box set of Exile on Main St. is in the works. It will be first ever archival release from the Rolling Stones vaults:

Keith Richards shed some light on the upcoming box set edition of the Rolling Stones 1972 double-album masterpiece Exile On Main Street. The collection -- which has no release date yet -- is the first time the Stones have officially sanctioned an archival release from their vaults. Richards told Rolling Stone that he and Mick Jagger are currently in the studio sifting through the album's numerous outtakes, explaining, "There's new songs on there, stuff we've forgotten about. Mick and I were looking at each other like, 'Ah, did we do that?'"

http://mog.com/blog_post/content/480/1479027


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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:33 AM
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76. Mick and Keith have somewhat fuzzy memories from the early 70's? Who'd a thunk it?
:rofl:
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 03:41 PM
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85. I was gonna say Mick Taylor in "Sympathy for the Devil"!
the live , Get Yer Ya Yas Out version
he's the second one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZUp1gUQLyg
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 01:31 AM
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62. Jaco Pastorius with Weather Report on "Port of Entry"
The solos starts at 2:28.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-gbGEprDoA

Jaco had the charisma of a frontman, but Weather Report was really Zawinul and Wayne's band.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:05 AM
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67. Tull's Martin Barre on "Thick as a Brick," maybe.
(or nearly anything else they recorded)

Jimmy Page: "Whole Lotta Love"
Slash: "Sweet Child O' Mine"
Dickey Betts: "Blue Sky"
Duane/Dickey: "Jessica"

I think the terms of the OP don't rule much out.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:31 AM
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68. Rick Derringer 'ShowBiz Kids'
with that band named after a dildo.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:23 AM
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70. "Countdown" and "Katy Lied" are my two favorite Dan albums
And yeah, Derringer's work on that track is great. I also love the way the lyrics predicted the coming of the MTV wave of "reality shows" like Real World, The Hills, and Jersey Shore...

"Show biz kids making movies
Of themselves you know they
Don't give a fuck about anybody else
They're outrageous"

The only thing we seem to have left on TV these days is "look at me look at me look at MEEEEEEEEE."

:rofl:
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:24 AM
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102. Rick has had a long career - He and his brother founded The McCoys -
"Hang On Sloopy", wrote a lot of songs covered by some big names (Bowie covered their "Sorrow") and played and toured for a long time with the Edgar Winter Band. He is quite a prolific songwriter, and a hell of a player - "Rock n Roll Hoochie Koo" is one of those tunes that seems pretty simple to play-till you try to work it out.

He has a website here: http://www.rickderringer.com/


mark
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:06 AM
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73. Martin Barre of Jethro Tull. Aqualung
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 11:06 AM by CBGLuthier
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 04:46 PM
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89. That's a good one.
The kind that makes me want to press on the gas pedal a little harder.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:25 PM
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80. Jesse Ed Davis in Taj Mahal ... "Leaving Trunk"
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 03:15 PM
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83. Which reminded me: Democratic Congressman John Hall ( Jesse Ed was awesome too of course)
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 03:19 PM by abq e streeter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4e9SUwL4JM

Ain't Gwine to Whistle Dixie No More
great solo from about 4:00 to 5:20.....this album also had possibly the greatest song title ever: You Ain't No Streetwalker Mama, Honey But I Do Love The Way You Strut Your Stuff

Taj sure found some great guitar players; his Rising Sons had a teenaged kid by the name of Ry Cooder...
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 03:44 PM
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86. When I first heard Humble Pie's verson of Dr. John's "I Walk On Gilded Splinters"...
...the live version on the "Performance: Rockin' The Fillmore" album, I had no idea that "Leaving Trunk" was a song, I just thought it was part of "Gilded Splinters."

When it gets to that point in the song, Greg Ridley, Peter Frampton and Steve Marriott each take turns (in that order) with a couple of lines each. When Marriott steps up to the mic, he lets out what is perhaps the finest and most earth-rattling wail of his entire career.

When I found out that "Leaving Trunk" was a song, I immediately sought the Taj version. You're right, it's a classic, and it found a home on one of the mix CDs in the car.

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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 02:20 PM
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82. Quite a few songs by Heart
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 04:08 PM
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88. Robert Fripp on Eno's "Baby's On Fire".
I always say this; you can wager upon it ;)
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 06:45 PM
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94. The "Fripp-er-verse" was required listening for the crowd I ran with...
...all of the "Prog Kings"...Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, King Crimson...although, for some reason, none of us were ever into ELP. But Roxy Music, Eno, Phil Manzanera, anyone connected to the main bands we liked made it onto our playlists. "Here Come The Warm Jets" was just one more "gotta have it" album of the time.

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 05:58 PM
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90. OK, another favorite of mine: Scotty Moore, playing with Elvis in 1954....
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 06:21 PM by old mark
"That's All Right, Momma"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIWlWA1YTBw

recorded in Sun Records, Scotty on lead guitar, E on rhythm guitar and superb vocal, Bill Black on upright bass...I think DJ Fontana on drums.

Scotty invented so much of what we have heard over the last 60 years or so...he is a virtual unknown except for us fans...he still is playing, has a web site here:

http://www.scottymoore.net/

Enjoy.

mark
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 06:52 PM
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95. I guess Scotty and Bill are virtual unknowns(?) Hard to comprehend, but probably so.
Have you ever been to Sun Studio? If not, I'm afraid I'm just going to have to insist on it. If it's not financially feasible, sell whatever you have to; your bass, your house... hell, your wife and/or kids....but go there.I've been there once, about 4 years ago, and trying to figure out when I can get back ever since. Also, thanks for the PM. I don't play all that much either these days, although I was until about a year and a half ago. The economy tanked and so did the gigs. I have some originals I need to get recorded but I've been a slug about just getting off my ass and doing it. And I'd remembered you mentioning opening for BB King once. That had to be one of the great thrills of a lifetime. I've opened for some big time blues guys but no one as big as BB King ( they don't get any bigger than BB in my book). And I really do have to watch the "name-dropping" .It's not meant to be that; it just sometimes seems appropriate and fits in to a post or a thread to mention knowing someone, but I can see how it would come off as awfully obnoxious too...:yourock:
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:33 AM
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103. A e S: Sorry -I have only the one name to drop, and do so too often.
I remember him very well. I am absolutely sure he would not remember me. I have seen Sun Records on film and in pics of E's band recording there, and I have recorded in an '80's version of it (I played bass on a local radio commercial)...You may be tired of telling the tales, but I enjoy reading them.

In high school my band played behind touring singles artists including Leslie Gore and Jewel Akins. (We have not yet been paid for the latter job, and I doubt we will at this point.) I really loved that band - it, minus me, became the band for Jay and the Techniques, at least for the first few years. I went on to improve myself in college, which lasted a few months till I found a good college band....)
See, I did it again......:rofl:

mark
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 06:13 PM
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92. Anything by Ernie Isley
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 06:42 PM
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93. Too bad his 1990 solo album, "High Wire," is out of print...


The centerpiece on that one was "Rising From The Ashes," a slow song with a bit of a Hall & Oates "Sara Smile" feel to it, and Ernie just goes apeshit, Hendrix-style, on the extended solo.

:toast:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:02 PM
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97. You got it?
I got it
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:50 PM
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100. Used to have it
It became a casualty of the economy of 2009. I ripped a lot of the CDs I sold, and thought I'd ripped that one, but didn't.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:22 PM
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98. Stevie Ray Vaughn
Playing Pipeline with Dick Dale & the Del-Tones.

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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:50 PM
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99. Running On Empty, David Lindley (Jackson Browne)
One of the great ones....
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:53 PM
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101. Lindley had a killer live vinyl LP with El Rayo-X, his band...
...the track that got a lot of airplay was his version of "Mercury News," which has the "never fails to crack me up" intro of Lindley yelling "Oh no, we're all gonna DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...."



If you ever see it, but it...you won't be disappointed.

:toast:

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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:29 PM
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112. +1
:thumbsup::thumbsup:

When I read the thread title David Lindley was the first guy that came to mind. probably one of the most underrated side men in the biz. The slide work he does on "Redneck Friend" remains among my all time faves

:toast"
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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:13 AM
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104. would Eddie Van Halen be considered a frontman in this instance?
I will still give a nod to his solo on MJ's Beat It. Otherwise every solo Eddie Van Halen does for Van Halen would be my nomination.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:06 AM
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105. Eddie in VH is like Robert Fripp in King Crimson...
...MANY fans listen to VH to hear Eddie, just as MANY fans listen to KC to hear Fripp.

Eddie and his brother are the "decision makers" in the band, just as Fripp is the "decision maker" in KC.

So that's a real wobbler...if the person who is most responsible for defining the sound of the band is the frontman, then Keith Richards is the frontman of the Rolling Stones (and there are some who would agree with that...including Keith).
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:09 AM
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106. Hot For Teacher is my vote
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:23 AM
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108. Hot For Teacher has two in a row, in fact.
They address it in the video when they just do the same scene twice in a row.
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:12 AM
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107. Led Zeppelin"Rock And Roll"
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Trailrider1951 Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:05 AM
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110. Steve Howe
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 04:55 PM
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113. "Dragon Attack" by Brian May
I know it's not his most intricate solo by far (and he has some GREAT ones) but I love the way it hits.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:17 PM
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114. A bit on the heavy side for most DUers taste, but Glenn Tipton and KK Downing
trading off on "Hellrider" and the counter-melody section, and then the final harmony runs are pretty mindblowing.

Pretty much every time I hear it I want to draw i a deep breath, clench my fist and make the Howard Dean "yearrgh!" shout.
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