What is the MOST ANNOYING song you ever been subjected to?

[rhino47]

Ok way too many to list but I`m thinking the barney song.
I love you .. you love me argghhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... makes me wanna snort a few lines of prozac and find a happy place.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

1. achy breaky heart

my mom loved it and had the tape when i was a teen

....sheer torture

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

8. also, 'no woman no cry'

by bob marley. nothing against him i have a huge amount of respect for him.

but anytime this comes on in a bar, it provokes a horrid, drunken sing-along from every frat boy who fancies themselves mildly hippie-esque, usually accompanied by a barely intelligible "i looove this song, man"

[Parrcrow]

2. that really stupid

I've been to paradise but I've never been to me thing


or anything by Dan Fogleburg

[Insider]

3. barney's joint

you know the one.

[BeatleBoot]

4. Piano Man

God I hate when that comes on in a pub..

[Crowdance]

Iron Man

My son has been playing it for about an hour in his room. Amplifier on highest setting. Cats flipping out.

[TheMightyFavog]

5. MY NAME IS LARRRRRYYY!!!

MY NAME IS LARRRRRYY!

[Whitacre D_WI]

65. That's the best song ever!

Don't talk trash, or the Wildman will getcha!

[swag]

6. "California Girls" by the Beach Boys (or most anything else by them)

but those Blink 182 guys are quite awful too.

[absyntheNsugar]

121. Aw c'mon

Pet Sounds is an amazing album

[yardwork]

7. You're having my baby.

[BlueJazz]

24. AAAGGGGHH! I agree

What a lovely way to say that you love me...AAAAGGGHHHHH!!!!

[MikeG]

9. Sue-Sue-Sudio by Phil Collins

[mstrsplinter326]

10. "Crunk" Rap

As a 'youngin' I can understand the like of rap, but not this genre.

[doc03]

11. Little Drummer Boy (pa rumpa pum pum)

[CBHagman]

73. AAGH! You just gave me a flashback!

A few years ago, I was flying on Christmas Eve to join my sister and her family for the holidays. I got on the plane with a really bad cold and was well on my way to full-blown laryngitis. The last leg of the journey was on a small plane to Flint, Michigan, and the flight attendant on board decided to have some fun for the benefit of a small child on board. She played a music box version of "The Little Drummer Boy" (just the chorus, mind you) and had the pilots making ho-ho noises in the cockpit. I heard that music box tune for so long that I was losing my will to live.

Then again, there are a LOT OF annoying tunes, many of which are available on the cell phone of the person sitting nearest to you on the train or bus. :-)

[Zookeeper]

12. It's hard to choose just one...

How about "Wildfire," a horrible mid-70's song about some dumb horse running out into the freezing cold and dying (or something. I could never listen long enough to be sure).

Runner-up: Another dreadful 70's classic about a father who didn't spend enough time with his son, then...GUESS WHAT?...the son grows up and doesn't have enough time for his dad. HA! I guess he showed him! Does anyone remember the name of that???

[rhino47]

15. Cats in the Cradle by Harry Chapin n/t

[Zookeeper]

17. Thanks!

Except now that I know the name, I'm also remembering the tune.

Lots of potential Earworms on this thread!

[kmla]

56. "Cat's in the Cradle" - the late Harry Chapin.

n/t

[doc03]

13. Another one Watermelon Crawl

[PartyPooper]

14. I think the title is "Grandma Got Run Over By a Reindeer".

And, I don't like that silly chipmunk Christmas song, either. I remember when it first came out 40+ years ago. I really grates on me more and more each passing year!

Bah humbug!

x(

[kmla]

57. It is my goal every year to get through the holiday season without

hearing that damn song.

I hate it, too.

[HEFFA]

16. Anything by The Wiggles!!

My two year old loves them and wants to listen to them every time that we go anywhere in the car. I don't use the word often, but I really HATE these guys. Their music sucks, and they're friggin' millionaires.

There's one song in particular....it involves a lion and a unicorn fighting for a crown. Eventually, someone gives them a pizza and drums them out of town. WTF? Who wrote this crap?

[SmileyBoy]

18. MMMBop by Hanson

That song was big SEVEN years ago, and I STILL can't get it out of my head...

[KissMyAsscroft]

19. Milkshake.

That song fucking sucks.

Also "I Will Survive"....every bleached blonde retard in the bar will sing along to that man-hating masterpiece.

[northzax]

81. yeah, but have you heard the Cake version

of I will survive, great tune, sung by a man.

[ScreamingMeemie]

20. My daddy served in the army...oh he lost his right eye, but he flew

a flag out on our porch until the day that he died...you know the rest.

The boot in the ass part is what did it for me. :hi:

[Red State Rebel]

21. This is the song that never ends, it just goes on and on my friend!

Just give me a dull knife and let me gouge out my ear drums now....,

[M0rpheus]

32. Exactly what I was thinking!!! I hate that song!

n/t

[Red State Rebel]

41. Hell is riding in a car full of kids singing that song

[northzax]

82. great story about the late Sheri Lewis

once she was asked to provide a recipie for TV guide (the celebrity chef part) and gave them...lamb chops! when they expressed horror, she said something along the lines of "I spend 8 hours a day with a sock on my hand talking to 'lamb chop' at the end of the week, I get my revenge.

[flamingyouth]

22. Muskrat Love

:scared:
My mom bought a record on TV with that title, but it was all songs done by other artists! LOL - I wonder if my parents still have that record (probably not). I remember her playing the whole thing and the songs sounded *even worse* than the originals, if that could be possible.

[SarahB]

23. My daughter listens to Hip Hop

I don't like it. I feel old and crotchety. :scared:

[jus_the_facts]

25. smells like teen spirit and every other song by nirvana

.....THEY SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! *projectile* :puke:

[Zookeeper]

106. Weird Al Yankovic...

made a great video parody of that song! It would be worth your time to find it, if you haven't seen it already.

[sarahbellum]

107. teen spirit is overrated...

...but i just might have to cry a thousand crystal tears over your statement anyway.

;)

[NightTrain]

26. I don't know about THE most annoying, but...

...here are some that make me want to claw my face off:

DOWNTOWN - Mrs. Miller
GREASE - Frankie Valli
HOW DO YOU DO? - Mouth & MacNeal
IT'S STILL ROCK 'N' ROLL TO ME - Billy Joel
LOVIN' YOU - Minnin Riperton
OUTA-SPACE - Billy Preston
THE SUN AIN'T GONNA SHINE ANYMORE - The Walker Brothers
XANADU - Olivia Newton-John

[Zomby Woof]

27. Crackbox 20

For months in my workplace I have been subjected to the mediocre radio choices of my peers. "I'm not crazy, I'm just a little unwell, Blah blah..." :nuke: :argh:

I am capable of removing someone's lungs and smashing them with a red-hot hammer dipped in acid, then replacing them upside down.

I never knew a singer could be more annoying than Dave Matthews, but then, this Crackbox 20 guy came along...

[lanlady]

28. Barry Manilow--

I Write the Songs.

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:

[Gildor Inglorion]

29. ANYTHING bellowed and/or screamed by Celine Dion

and "Please, Mister, Please, Don't Play B-17" by Oblivious Neutron Bomb

[amandabeech]

30. Anything by Donny Osmond

Instant bazooka barfing :puke: :puke: :puke:

And the same goes for anything that the rest of the Osmonds have ever done. Give me my insulin now! I'm going into sugar shock!

[kmla]

59. *snarf*

Bazooka barfing?

Bwahahahahaha!

[amandabeech]

101. I can't take credit!

It comes from the old "Bloom County" comic strip by Berke Breathed. The character "Bill the Cat" occasionally bazooka-barfed, particularly while he was playing electric tongue in the "Death Tongue/Billy and the Boingers" band.

If didn't read this strip in the '80s, I recommend that you get ahold of one of the soft-cover compilations. Hilarious!

[FDRrocks]

31. The Song that Doesn't End

from Lampchop

99 Bottles of Beer
by Satan

and a close third is "Mambo #5" by whoever

I don't know what it is but I'd rather mambo to a Melt Banana song than to that crap.

[The empressof all]

69. Darn you

It's the song that never ends..........
Now recycling through my brain

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

33. "It's A Small World After All"

I remember all those hundreds of dolls singing that tune, over-and-over-and-over-and-over-and-over again at Disneyland. Gave me the willies.

[FDRrocks]

35. Uber n/t

[jobycom]

60. I love that ride! Disney's most liberal moment!

Does kind of make you think of "Child's Play" at times, though, doesn't it?

[Wickster]

68. Mine, too.

Just seeing the title makes it start in my head. Oh, please, make it stop! arrrrrgh!
:crazy:

[Hogarth]

34. Tony Orlando's "Yellow Ribbon"

What a whiner!

[H_Morris]

36. Hard to Choose... but...

I know a few songs that make me want to fall over and die.

Like:

The Barney Song

Some dumb song that says "I've been shattered like a rose on my death bed" over and over and then starts screaming like a maniac, then the song ends.

And then there's people like Eminem and Jay-Z, or whatever his name is, and people like Britney Spears :puke: or Christina Aguilara who make me wanna scream and throw my radio out the window. They're freaking lyrics don't even makes sense and all the girls do is dance around with their rears hanging out.

So, there you go... :)

[rhino47]

44. Hi H_Morris Welcome to DU

:hi: :hi: :hi:

[H_Morris]

97. Hello

Hello there! Thanks for the greeting.

:hi: :hi: :hi: :)

[Zinfandel]

37. You Light Up My Life. ...

I Will Survive

[Fight_n_back]

38. After the fifth time through the ride

"Its a Small World After All" has you throwing yourself in front of the little boats.

[arwalden]

39. Doo doo dee dot dood n doo doo...

That hamster dance song.

[jpgray]

40. That was originally in Disney's 'Robin Hood'

Which my brother and I really liked as kids.

[masshole]

42. Seasons in the Sun

Terry jacks :puke:

[rhino47]

43. Oh yeah season in the sun another hell song from my childhood

That and john jacob jingle heimer smidt argghh listened to that
for 8 hours on the way to chicago.Oh and ITS A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL >>>>>
there you go.. that will be stuck in your head for days

[MissMillie]

45. Much as I love the Carpenters

"Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft" takes this prize.

[Ganja Ninja]

46. John Ashcrofts "Let the Eagle Soar."

Even the few bars they played when he first wrote it left me crying like a baby for him to stop.

[grannylib]

47. yes yes yes OMG is that not the WORST piece of tripe you have ever

heard??? Have you seen "Asscroft" that little short film on FSTV about his little...'contributions' to our great nation???

[Ganja Ninja]

51. I haven't seen it. I don't have cable or satellite unfortunately.

[grannylib]

54. I'll check around and see if there is a link to it online somewhere, it's

worth watching...

[mouse7]

96. We have a winner!

I'd rather listen to the feedback from mikes placed too close together.

[LWolf]

48. Proud to be an American

by whoever is singing it at the moment

He stopped loving her today...George Jones

several by Teddy pendergras; I can't remember their names, I only heard them once.

Uh oh..it looks like the most annoying songs are the ones I had to listen to repeatedly when I didn't really want to; I'm sure there are plenty more that I exercised the "off" button to delete from my air waves!

[skippysmom]

66. proud to be an american

makes me anything but. I hate Lee Greenwood. :puke:

The worst part is that the damn thing gets stuck in your head.

[LWolf]

76. It sure does.

I used to be married to a pilot; we spent a lot of time at air shows. It's amazing how many aerial displays are choreographed to that song.

[Whitacre D_WI]

77. Ach! "He Stopped Loving Her Today" is a GREAT song!

George Jones' finest hour.

[LWolf]

124. It's all in the context.

My first husband liked to play his current favorites all day, every day, for months...until he found something else that caught his attention, and then we'd listen to that.

I listened to George Jones every day for years, and that was one of his favorites. I was not a George Jones fan. Or a fan of Hank Williams Jr. But I lived with them 24/7.

I even eventually became sick of Tom Petty, and I was a fan.

[hyphenate]

49. My Sharona

I remember it was like 1979 and I was hanging out at a pizza place in S. Cal, playing "Space Invaders" on one of the first video games at the time. "My Sharona" was played endlessly either on the radio feed or on the jukebox. After awhile, it was just worst than ever, and my addiction to Space Invaders finally waned as I couldn't take that song anymore.

[skypilot]

50. That Chpimunk' Christmas song...

...followed by Madonna's first (?) hit "Holiday".

[DiverDave]

52. Creep

When I first started driving a big truck, my trainer got the mini tape, with that and the instrumental version on the flip side.
I swear to god he wore that thing out, I would be in the bunk with earplugs to not hear it.
I get a stomach ache when I here it now.

[av8rdave]

53. Anything Michael Bolton - he sounds constipated! n/t

n/t

[Champ]

55. Have you Forgotten by Darryl Worley

[woofless]

58. Afternoon Delight

or Shake Your Booty.

[jobycom]

61. Barney? I have to disagree with that one

My oldest daughter and I used to watch Barney together. Not much chance of stimulation watching any kids' show, but when the first song your three year old daughter learns includes her looking at you and singing "I love you, you love me, we're a happy family" it's impossible not to get a bit teary-eyed at the song.

And I'd vote for "Betty Davis Eyes" in your poll, with a close second to "Proud to be an American."

[H_Morris]

98. I agree

Now that I think about it, it's really not the most annoying song. I watched Barney with my mom and I used to sing that song all the time and then she would sing it back to me.

[terrya]

62. ANYTHING by Bjork.

Lord almighty, that woman's voice is grating.

Terry

[Viking12]

63. Not just a song, ABBA's Greatest Hits

stuck with four women in a 1974 Ford LTD on a road trip from Winnepeg, Manitoba to Minneapolis, Minnesota I was subjected to ABBA's greatest hits played over-and-over-and-over the entire 8 hours of the drive while my stoned female companions sang along lyrics at the top of their lungs. That was ten years ago, I've yet to recover.

[rhino47]

64. Ouch !

Are you sure that wasnt my sisters in that car?Sounds like a trip to dc I went on with them.Add John Denvers greatest hits and I was there.

[Norbert]

67. Y M C A by the Villiage People

I thought the song was toast after disco but nooooooooooo!:puke:

[ronnykmarshall]

70. I HATE that song!

[SaveElmer]

71. Rappers Delight

Like scratching fingernails on a chalkboard

[LynneSin]

72. "Someone's knocking on the door"

Is there a more STUPID song out there???? Paul McCartner should be slapped for writing something so stupid and actually allowing it to get airplay

---

Someone's knocking at the door
Somebody's ringing the bell
Someone's knocking at the door
Somebody's ringing the bell
Do me a favor, open the door and let 'em in

Sister Susie, brother John
Martin Luther, Phil 'n' Don
Brother Michael, Auntie Gin
Open the door, let 'em in, yeah

Sister Susie, brother John
Martin Luther, Phil 'n' Don
Uncle Ernie, Auntie Gin
Open the door, let 'em in, yeah

Sister Susie, brother John
Martin Luther, Phil 'n' Don
Uncle Ernie, Uncle Ian
Open the door, let 'em in, yeah

[Whitacre D_WI]

74. Anything by:

-The hated Eagles
-Billy Joel
-Paul McCartney post-Beatles (excepting "Jet")
-for that matter, 90% of McCartney's Beatles songs after 1965
-The Grateful Dead
-U2 (other than the near-classic albums "Boy" and "Achtung Baby")
-Phish
-Sting
-The Moody Blues (with one exception, "Hey Now")
-Eric Clapton (solo -- I do like Cream)
-other wankers with Stratocasters who think they're playing the "blues."
-Rush
-Triumph
-Bryan Adams
-okay, most Canadian music
-post-1990 Metallica and Megadeth
-Crosby, Stills, and Nash (any group Neil Young could not make good REALLY SUCKS!)
-Any band named after a geographical location (Boston, Chicago, Kansas)
-Seal
-Dream Theater, Savatage, Fates Warning (eyesroll likes prog-metal :scared:)
-Sheryl Crow
-Kid Rock
-Kid Rock featuring Sheryl Crow
-Sheryl Crow featuring Kid Rock
-The Doors, when Morrison sings something stupid (about half their songs)
-Jimmy Fucking Buffett
-Whatever Screaming Lord Byron Likes

And, of course: Celine Dion, Kenny G, Yanni, Michael Bolton, Billy Ray Cyrus, Vanilla Ice -- but those hacks are no harder on my ears than the "artists" listed above.

[tigereye]

79. I was gonna say Having my Baby is the most annoying to me

but good lord, you have covered a lot of turf and I couldn't resist arguing with you! I actually have some time to argue today for a change.

I like Phish.. think they are very talented. A bit Grateful Dead like, but talented. Some older Dead ( that amuses me for some reason) is very good.

I do like Sheryl Crow... older, great voice, good songwriter, I think? and nice harmonies. Usually I don't like anything that anything that mainstream, but for her I make an exception. As a woman musician I feel that other women who have talent deserve my support.

Seals' the Rose is very beautiful.. don't know about his other songs. ( yeah sentimental)

I do like Sting's philosophical stuff( Jung- inspired stuff like Soul Cages)I think he is also a very talented player arranger and writer. I guess I have to admit I am somewhat of a sentimentalist. (blush)

[Whitacre D_WI]

80. You quote TMBG in your sig line, and think Sheryl Crow is a...

...good songwriter?

Her stuff is bland pap. The kind of stuff Neil Sedaka used to write (and now we're full-circle to "Having My Baby").

I agree with you that Phish is comprised of very talented instrumentalists. However, their songs are entirely devoid of (what can tritely be described as) SOUL! Not to mention, their lyricist (at least on their earlier stuff -- I haven't heard Phish since about '93) is abominable.

I was specifically thinking of "Kiss from a Rose" when I listed Seal. I actually don't mind "Crazy" nearly so much -- I mean, it was overplayed in the day, it's a dreadful earworm, and again -- no passion; but it's not nearly so treacly.

Sting? Sorry, I can't think of anything good to say about Sting. I don't even like most Police songs. He WAS wonderfully creepy in "Dune," I'll give him that.



I like sentiment if done right, if it feels honest. I don't like songs that are written in an attempt to stir sentiment, however -- I like those that are written FROM sentiment within the composer.

And I see where you are going trying to support female musicians. Make sure to give props to those female visionaries who have been unfairly maligned over the years -- Yoko Ono, Lydia Lunch (the Teenage Jesus and the Jerks record is brilliant). Not to mention such women as Kim Gordon, the folks in Sleater-Kinney, Neko Case -- critical darlings, yes, but still widely unknown.

Then again, plenty of "critical darlings" are crap. Just ask Random Koolzip. *ducks*

[tigereye]

84. I know. I know

I can't help it, I just like her stuff. Everyone has their dirty little secrets. I am just tired of apologizing for liking SOME conventional stuff, too. I also like Yoko and the others you mention... I was an indie rat and a feminist! But I also am a product of 60's pop ( like Joey Ramone was) and sometimes really sweet sugary stuff tastes really good! Wow, haven't heard anyone mention Teenage Jesus and the Jerks for many years! That takes me back.

[Zookeeper]

117. Am I actually hearing that someone else...

who may be my age, still cares about interesting, non-corporate music?!? Teenage Jesus and the Jerks...my ears just smiled...

[tigereye]

85. I know. I know

I can't help it, I just like her stuff. Everyone has their dirty little secrets. I am just tired of apologizing for liking SOME conventional stuff, too. I also like Yoko and the others you mention... I was an indie rat and a feminist! But I also am a product of 60's pop ( like Joey Ramone was) and sometimes really sweet sugary stuff tastes really good! Wow, haven't heard anyone mention Teenage Jesus and the Jerks for many years! That takes me back.

[Whitacre D_WI]

86. I like lots of sweet stuff.

Just not Ms. Crow. :P

No need to apologize for your tastes. When I was seven, my favorite song was "Take It on the Run" by REO Speedwagon.

I outgrew it.

I'm sorry, I know I'm being a dick. But I'm just so damn GOOD at it!

[tigereye]

88. no let's just let Slick Rick be the dick

ewww that is a disturbing image. Now I want to make a Richard Hell and the Voidoids joke... you know the one. Oh, I'm awful. Not as bad as some, but getting there.

I have a secret to tell, from my elliptical well ( strangely fits with the Jung stuff)

[Whitacre D_WI]

89. I really don't want to think about...

...Rick's slick dick. Oh crap, now I'm gonna get my post deleted. And this lovely little thread locked. Fie on me!

Santorum comes in spurts? Oh, dear....

[tigereye]

90. you said it not me, well actually I did sort of

I do like double entendres but not too overt

sorry I am just in a silly mood

[Whitacre D_WI]

91. At least...

...I didn't make any "elliptical well" comments.

[tigereye]

92. but I didn't intend that as ...

oops is that what that is supposed to mean? LOL

I was thinking of the Jungian concept of Descent to the Goddess, actually. Really, seriously. Seriously, I was. Okay, you can stop now tigeye.

[Whitacre D_WI]

94. Huh-huh. You said:

"Descent to the Goddess."

I think I saw a movie about that once.

[tigereye]

105. no no it really is a Jungian book

(me thinks I protesteth too much!)

heck for most guys ( and some women ) every comment is sexual in some way... now I'm afraid to say anything!

[Zookeeper]

113. Wow! Impressive list!

I agree, but would add Phil Collins and Whitney Houston.

[Whitacre D_WI]

114. Dammit!

I forgot about those fuckers!

[VOX]

75. Steve Lawrence and Edie Gorme: "Side By Side"

Horrible. Just horrible. Dreadfully "cute" arrangement.

It's enough to bring the strongest-willed person to their knees and sign a confession to crimes against the state.

[Skittles]

78. I WOULD WALK A THOUSAND MILES

Dear God I cannot freaking STAND that whiny woman. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

[laughing_dog]

83. Hank Jr "To Love Somebody"

Hank Jr. did a version of the otherwise-beautiful Bee Gee's song "To Love Somebody" which makes me want to hurl.

[FunBobbyMucha]

87. Midnight At The Oasis.

Fuck your camel.

We Built this City by Starship is Number 2.

[Butterflies]

93. Bruce Springsteen's voice get on my nerves

that infernal "Born...clang...in the US.A...clang..." is the worst.

[Ladyhawk]

112. I don't like Springsteen's voice, either.

Or Bryan Adams' raspy, annoying voice. Gack! I would have liked the animated flick Spirit, Stallion of the Cimarron much better without Bryan Adams noxious voice cutting in every twenty minutes. Barf. I barely made it through that movie.

[mvd]

95. Ignorant political lyrics annoy me more than anything..

My vote goes to "Have You Forgotten" by Darryl Worley. Toby Keith's is bad enough, but "Have You Forgotten" buys even more lies.

[sarahbellum]

108. agree 100%

the man is so confused it's not even funny.

[TX-RAT]

99. Hannity's theme song

[mtnester]

100. Macarena

eom

[Merrick]

102. Everything I've ever heard at the gym

[Justpat]

103. Easy one..

That &^%*ing song from Annie - "Tomorrow" God, I hate
that song.

[derby378]

104. For me, it's a tie

between Ashcroft's "Let the Eagle Soar" and "Puberty Love" from Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.

[sarahbellum]

109. sk8er boi and its ilk

but there's an unparalleled amount of crap being produced today; i could hardly begin to name half of the stuff that makes me grind my teeth.

[corporatewhore]

110. Christian Pop on a road trip w/classmate to a competion

[Ladyhawk]

111. Something the theater played by Hank Williams, Jr.

Could that guy have a more annoying voice????

[Mobius]

115. My Heart Will Go On - Celine Dion

hands down. My ears bleed just thinking about it.

[Cuban_Liberal]

116. 'Achy, breaky heart'!

:puke:

[rhino47]

118. Willie Nelson doing a version of Bobby McGee

Thats worse then fingernails on a chalkboard.

[rhino47]

119. Oh and it came to me THE SINGING NUNS

they tortured us with that in catholic school .
ma neeeka neeeka neeka neeka and on and on and on ....

[marigold20]

123. That was awful!

Dominique a neek a neek. They were just awful singers

[absyntheNsugar]

120. Consider yourself lucky

Lil' AbsyntheNSugar, Nate, was to never be subjected to Barney. I swore it would never happen.

Then, one day, flipping through channels with Nate, up comes the purple dinsoaur. Nate is suddenly in a trance, and cries when I try to change the channel.

Now its a daily addiction...

[NashVegas]

122. 4 Non-Blondes - forget the title

"but I say in PAAAAIAAAAAIAAAAIAAAN"

aaaagggh!