Started watching that "new" "Star Trek" last night...shut it off after about 20 minutes.

[joeybee12]

:puke:

[Debi]

1. The first 1/2 hour or so is WAY boring for anyone who's seen Star Trek before

frankly, I'd watch it a dozen times just to see Chris Pine over and over and over again

[Symarip]

2. You have issues

You know that, right?

[Debi]

3. The term is NEEDS

dipshit :eyes:

[Symarip]

4. Welcome to Ignoreville

Population: Debi.

[Debi]

6. you'll be missed

:P

[Tommy_Carcetti]

11. He won't be the first person to have ignored you.

By that, I mean all those unanswered letters to Robert Pattinson, of course.

[Debi]

15. He loves me DAMMIT

He just doesn't know it yet :loveya:

He'll come around ... now that I have a key to his house.

[TZ]

23. .

Wow. I thought Symarip was the biggest freak around...I take it back!!! :scared:

[Symarip]

20. Crazy

[TZ]

24. !

:rofl: :thumbsup:

[Debi]

25. What's it say?

Ever since I got put on ignore I cannot read the posts ;)

[TZ]

22. Hello: she's obsessed with that Medusa haired Pattinson fellow

That ought to tell you all you need to know.
BTW, how is it you find your way onto all the Star Trek threads, hater? I find that very odd...Perhaps you are a closet fan...?:evilgrin:

[joeybee12]

5. He's such a jerk in the beginning his looks are invisble because of that...

at least to me.

[Debi]

7. I know - and I agree

But the last part of the movie is pretty cool IMO. worth wasting an additional hour of you life.

[joeybee12]

8. Maybe I'll put it on in the living room so I can sort of watch as I clean,

etc. It was free at least...from the library.

[Debi]

16. Hope you find the rest of it more entertaining

:hi:

[Iggo]

9. The opening sequence was good/great.

It went steeply downhill from there.

[joeybee12]

10. It was visually interesting, I agree to that...n/t

[Iggo]

12. I liked the sound-then-no-sound part.

I also choked up a bit during the tearjerker part.

[joeybee12]

13. The baby being born? Little James Tiberius?

That I REALLY hated.

[Iggo]

14. Not precisely.

More the woman losing her standup-guy husband.

[joeybee12]

17. Eh, good riddance...I hated the way he looked when the cpatain told

him he was in control now...really smamry while trying to look dignified.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

18. It took me a few tries to get through it all.

[LanternWaste]

19. Other than Khan, it was the only ST movie I've enjoyed..

Other than Khan, it was the only ST movie I've even remotely enjoyed..

Ah, the joys of a diversity of opinion. :P

[madinmaryland]

21. You should have watched the special on the building of the

Jerry Jones Memorial Stadium, last night!!

:woohoo:

[joeybee12]

26. So I could have....

:puke: twice instead of once?

[Xithras]

27. Get used to it. The critics and moviegoers loved it, and the're making another.

This is the "new" Trek, whether we like it or not.

It's not bad if you can put canon aside, and it's hard to dispute that the franchise was getting a bit stale and needed to try something new. Only time will tell whether this was the right direction.

One thing that irked me from the getgo was their decision to use such a recognizable face for Kirks mother. Two seconds after I thought it, another guy two rows down in the theater said it out loud..."Dr. Cameron is Kirks MOTHER?!?!?!" (House fans will get it).

[joeybee12]

28. I'm not a Trekkie by any means, but Vulcan bullies? Kirk as a rebel?

Pullleezeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Xithras]

30. Kirk was always a bit of a rebel. And the Vulcans DID bully Spock.

Look at the fist fights, the womanizing, the hot temper. His character was always portrayed as the rebellious type. He was the anti-Picard (or Picard was the anti-Kirk, depending on your perspective). That was actually an aspect of the story that I had little problem with.

As for the Vulcan bullies, it's actually part of Trek canon that Spock wasn't accepted by his peers because of his lineage, and this is something that's been explored in both books and glancingly referenced in several different episodes. The Vulcans always saw themselves as being a superior species to the humans, and Spock was never fully accepted by his people because he was a mix of both species. In one of the TOS episodes, where Sarek is accused of murder, Spocks mother actually mentions a time when the other Vulcan children beat him up for being "different".

There were lots of things for Trek fans to complain about, but I didn't have a problem with either of those two points.

ON EDIT:
Found it. The episode was Journey to Babel. Here's what his mother said to him: "When you were five years old, and came home, stiff lipped, anguished, because the other boys tormented you -- saying that you weren't really Vulcan -- I watched you, knowing that...inside...the human part of you was crying. And I cried too."

And that's from TOS, authorized by Roddenberry himself. Vulcan children, it seems, are just as capable of being bullies as human children.

[joeybee12]

34. Apparently I don't watch enough Star Trek...

...I'm more familiar with the movies than the tv series, and by then the characters were pretty much established. So, was there ever anything between Kirk and Uhura hinted at in the series?

[Orsino]

36. Shatner and Nichols shared television's first interracial kiss.

There's a hint of romantic attraction mentioned in the exchange, though they are being forced to kiss.

Enterprise showed Vulcans experiencing nearly the same range of emotions we do, though they use their control to hide it. We're shown Vulcans plotting and carrying out preemptive war on Andoria. One of the best things about this series is that it shows humans and Vulcans getting along poorly.

[CBGLuthier]

32. There were Vulcan bullies in the cartoon series.

You think being an asshole/racist is illogical to a kid?

[Xithras]

33. Actually, they're just acting like a natural Vulcan.

You have to remember that Vulcan's aren't free of emotion and illogical thinking, but are actually hyper-emotional beings prone to violence and war. Surak introduced the concept of logical thought and the suppression of emotions as a learned behavior. Vulcan babies are born emotional and illogical, but are taught logical thinking and emotional suppression techniques throughout childhood. By the time they become an adult, it's second nature to them.

If you look at it from that perspective, it's entirely understandable why Vulcan children would occasionally act in violent and illogical ways. They are still being trained to suppress that kind of thing.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

29. It's the first Star Trek time travel plot that doesn't hit the shiny red RESET button at the end

About time, if you ask me. Far too many Star Trek episodes that involve time travel get swept under the rug and everything is sunshine and lollipops at the end.

'twas enjoyable to me. The most enjoyable one I've seen since... Star Trek IV: Shakespeare Was a Klingon.
And why yes, I did hate "First Contact". As much as I enjoyed watching them, the TNG crew couldn't carry a tune, much less a movie. (It's not really their fault. They just had some...inadequate scripts)

And Leonard Nimoy looked like he was having a lot of fun in this movie.

[CBGLuthier]

31. I thought it was nice to finally have a Star Trek movie that wasn't

written for adolescents. The old show itself was more mature than most of the movies were.

[DerekG]

35. Actually, I thought this movie was written specifically for adolecents

Most of the TOS films centered around an aging crew grappling with mortality and God and geopolitics.

This piece of crap was more like J.J. Abrams's version of Star Wars.

[rkennedy_68]

37. i feel the same way

the show's really gone downhill

[Dr Morbius]

38. I'm a HUGE fan of the original series...

...and while I am not completely delighted with the reboot, I enjoyed the movie. Twice.

It has the requisite number (>0) of explosions. :D