so, how much should I ask for?

[ulysses]

Today, my boss (fundamentalist, racist founder of a personality cul...erm, private religious school) tried to play hardball with me as the rest of the best faculty she's ever had jumps like rats from a sinking ship.

Her: "Mr. Uly, are you planning to be back next year? I've got math teachers calling wanting to work here."

Me: "I don't know. Given the economics, I'm looking at my options."

Her, with genuine surprise: "Oh. Ok. Let me know on Monday what amount would keep you here."

I make (barring snow days, for which we don't get paid, along with any other time the school isn't open) $18k/year at this job. She'll never even consider anything above $20k. I'm thinking of asking for $40k. :)

(Yes, I've had my resume out for a good while. Starting pay in the Atlanta public system is $38,000 plus some.)

[nini]

1. I bet you don't have a retirement plan with her either...

You need to make the move to the public schools.. Lot's of good kids there too.

[ulysses]

2. I'm working on it.

Sort of a byzantine process, but I'm working on it.

Retirement plan - heh. :)

[fob]

3. Ask for $38000 for you and for her to donate $2000 to John Kerry!

nt

[Nikia]

4. $18,000/year in Atlanta

Isn't that a sort of expensive city to live in? Unless, you are a member of her church or something and feel that this school is a worthy cause, you are getting paid way too little. Since she already has a possible candidate lined up, a new graduate, I wouldn't count on a raise big enough to be worth it. Could you move if you cannot find a job in the area? How about subbing ?

[1monster]

5. Subbing in the county I live in pays a graduated rate with bonuses for

certain sub duties. The highest one makes is with a masters degree in education. They get $70.00 per day. (woohoo)

After the forty-fifth day of subbing in a school year, one gets a five dollar a day raise, bringing the highest paid subs up to $75.00 per day for the remainder of the school year. However, that five dollar "incentive" bonus pay ends on the last day of the school year and one must work another forty-five days the next school year in order to get the five dollars back.

One can earn $10.00 more for each day that one subs in an ESE class. And one can earn five dollars a day for every day after the eleventh consecutive day subbing for the same person.

So the most anyone can make in this school district is $90.00 givine the unlikely scenario of a sub with a masters degree, having already put in the forty-five days for the $5.00 a day bonus, getting a long-term sub job in an ESE class.

Look for the full-time teaching job with the salary and the benefits. Subbing is for a second family income or starvation-type wages...

[ulysses]

6. it certainly can be

We lucked into a reasonably solid, $60,000 house, so it could be worse. I took the job after nine months unemployed and because I've been lazy in years past in getting certified.

[CatWoman]

7. ask for a tax cut!!!

:D

[ulysses]

9. should I ask for hers?

Or maybe her Jag? :D

[CatWoman]

14. damn right!!!

[GOPisEvil]

8. One MEEEEELLION dollars!

[ulysses]

11. LOL!

I'll bring Mini-Uly to the negotiations. :D

[CatWoman]

15. nah

Mr. K should do :D

[ulysses]

17. LMAO!

"The cat does the talking for me." :D

The oldest group of kids thinks that "Mr. Kitty" is the funniest thing they've ever heard...

[Droopy]

10. Man, $18k for a teacher is horrible

I think you should at least be making 35k for starters and 40k for experience. You deserve much better.

[ulysses]

12. coming to the end of my fifth year in education

Hey, it's the magic of private schooling. They can drop 15 grand on an architectural plan that they're not even going to use now, but I have to pay for my own copier paper and most of my materials. I keep being told that god will provide...

[Blue-Jay]

13. I say that you should jump at the next offer.

You're getting screwed on salary. I know a substitute math teacher in my area that makes more than that and only works about 2/3 of the possible days that are available. If you really love the place, ask for at least 25K, though.

[ulysses]

16. I love the kids.

They're all, by turns, bright, inquisitive, loudmouthed, rude, sweet, farting, snot-producing, funny, hardworking, lazy, pain-in-the-ass good kids. I'll miss them.

I won't miss the control-freak, fundie atmosphere in which they're trying to get an education.

btw, your sig graphic cracks me the hell up every time I see it. :D