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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 05:24 PM
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We need to bring back Quaaludes
Seriously

Yeah, you can OD on these, so fucking what?

You can OD on Aspirin. You can OD on Tylenol. You can OD on Cough Syrup. What's next Mister Nanny State?

They only make you feel good - well shit, isn't that the purpose of drugs? I mean, take Antibiotics - if you have a bacterial infection, they will make you feel better, in the long run.

They serve no medical purpose - the hell they DON'T! How we feel is so much a part of the equation, and the fact that we eliminated something that makes us feel good is a Calivnist/Dominican/Opus Dei step in the WRONG DIRECTION.

Feeling good is, well good. Hurting other people is wrong, why would letting yourself hurt be any better?

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DoBotherMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 05:27 PM
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1. Oh yeah
that was a righteous peace. Dana ; )
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 05:37 PM
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4. I never got to experience
But it seems an awful lot like the happiness I pursue with my Kratom use
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:09 AM
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32. I never got to either
and as an avid drug experimenter - I must say I feel a bit ripped off. :hippie:
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 05:30 PM
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2. do they still make quaaludes?
what is a quaalude? Also, your utilitarian explanation works for me :P
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 05:36 PM
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3. It was a barbituate (correct me if I'm wrong) that made one feel good
Yes, you can die if you overdose

And they can be used to manipulate someone (Just see Roman Polanski)

But, the tool itself should not be banned
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 05:41 PM
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5. To each their own; I did em once ever; threw up that night AND the next
just didn't seem like that much fun. But yeah, I am in favor of across the board legalization.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 05:43 PM
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6. Calivnist/Dominican/Opus Dei?
That's quite the triumvirate.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 05:45 PM
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8. It's the idea that we must punish ourselves for merely living
It's in all of them
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 05:44 PM
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7. Truer words were never spoken.
Lemon 714s...OMG. We used to crush them occasionally and sprinkle on top of a bowl.

Good times...:)
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:07 AM
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17. I believe 714 was the number in the Dragnet badge that was shown in the show's opening credits.
I always heard it was a joke perpetrated by the show's writers.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 05:34 PM
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26. Actually, its an OC ref
Area code for OC at the time was 714
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 10:28 PM
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29. So. Cal. born and raised. I know about the area code. In the context of Badge 714 I find no
connection to the OC, no matter how many different ways I google it.

It was the number stamped on Rohrer Quaaludes.

It's the number of home runs Babe Ruth hit (Jack Webb was a big fan).

It's the birthdate of Jack Webb's mom.

There's also this:

What is the significance of the number 714, as in Badge 714?
There are multiple explanations for the use of this number. Jack Webb was a big Babe Ruth fan, and Ruth hit 714 home runs in his baseball career. The number is also said to be from Jack's mother's birthday (July 14th).
However, Laurie (Dragnet advisor and LAPD Sergeant Dan Cooke's daughter) also writes: Although plausible, these are not quite right. Sgt. Dan Cooke was closely associated with Jack Webb. He originated some of the script concepts and was the technical director for a number of the Dragnet episodes. Badge 714 was Sgt. Cooke's badge and was retired from the LAPD when Sgt. Cooke arranged for the use of his badge for the series. Sgt. Cooke has since passed away and the badge was donated by Cooke's widow to the LAPD Police Academy's Museum. You can see it there now—and the plaque next to the badge will validate this information.


I had a hard time figuring out why a show about the LAPD would use the area code for Orange County (I would have thought 213 should be more appropriate in that context) and found that the 714 area code once included most of Southern California, generally south and east of Los Angeles, extending to the Arizona and Nevada state lines to the east, and south as far as the Mexican border, something I didn't know. . I'm most inclined to believe the info about Sgt. Dan Cooke.

http://www.badge714.com/dragfaq.htm
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 06:40 PM
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9. MILTOWN, baby!
Meprobamate was first synthesized by Bernard John Ludwig, PhD, and Frank Milan Berger, MD, at Carter Products in May 1950. Wallace Laboratories, a subsidiary of Carter Products, bought the license and named it Miltown after the borough of Milltown in New Jersey. Launched in 1955, it rapidly became the first blockbuster psychotropic drug in American history, becoming popular in Hollywood and gaining notoriety for its seemingly miraculous effects.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meprobamate

:-)
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 06:42 PM
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10. A lot of people crashed and burned on them. I can see why too. The few times I did them, I
always found myself mixing them with a few beers and wow, what an incredible buzz!

But motor skills were hard to come by, and vehicle control got fairly wobbly.

I remember getting home and bouncing like a pinball off the walls of the hallway, all the way to my room. Pretty sure the parents could hear it.

If I remember correctly, the recently deceased Florida Senator, Paula Hawkins seemed to play a part in lobbying for the outlawing of the quaalude.

Or so that was the word at the time.

I loved them. But I can see why they're gone too.

The havoc would be unimaginable these days.

It sure was a nice rubbery buzz though.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 07:04 PM
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12. Rubbah is your friend, yall!
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:16 PM
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28. I think that is why we called them "driving biscuits" around my neck
of the woods....because when you took them you drove like a biscuit ;)
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 06:45 PM
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11. Rock on
I'm down with whatever your sellin man.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 07:05 PM
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13. Weren't those the horny pills?
If I'm remembering correctly. I mean, remembering reading about them, correctly.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 07:15 PM
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14. weren't many drugs i didn't try as a young man. but i preferred uppers.
the 2 times i did 'ludes, well, i just don't remember what happened those evenings, tho my friends said i wasn't too out of control.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 07:43 PM
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15. I had a friend who would get wired on them...
and do 6-8 in an evening. He wouldn't pass out or die, but get more animated.
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Tabasco_Dave Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 11:52 PM
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16. Quaaludes saved my life
I was 13 i was being bullied at school, my mom started drinking after 10 years of sobriety and my parents where getting a divorce. I didn't get high from ludes they just made me relax and relived a lot of stress i probably would have committed suicide if i didn't have them.
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:26 AM
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18. Quaaludes were dirt-cheap and pretty much over-the-counter...
.
...when I first got to Germany.
.
A couple of the comments here brought back some memories.
.
Used to call 'em "Rubber Men" those doers of 'ludes -- as
the hallways of the old SS Kaserne that was our current
barracks were about 10 feet wide and they would bounce off
opposite sides about every 10 feet they advanced. Also,
many fell down steps, etc.... but an injury was VERY rare.
.
We had a heroin epidemic going on (The Army estimated 7% of
the troops using needles and that was a LOW LOW LOW estimate
for PR purposes), but the only soldier we medics lost in the
almost 4 years I was there was a guy who did 'ludes n' beer
and went back to his room alone and threw up in his sleep
(addicts, on the other hand, watch out for each other).
.
Didn't/don't like downs. But one of the maybe TWO times I
did 'ludes (told this story here recently), I did two of
'em and washed 'em down with two of the local big brewery's
special Christmas beers (the local big brewery was a rare
German beer suckery).
.
Was in the Dispensary hanging out with the medic on duty.
Passed out in an easy chair watching TV. Woke up, struggled
to my feet only to come literally nose-to-nose with an MP
(he had come in to say "howdy" to the duty medic). My buddy
said I swayed back-and-forth, muttered "Fucking Christmas
beer!!!", and fell back in the chair, out like a light.
.
"You were", he said, "out-fucking-STANDING."
.
Obviously, in more ways than one.
.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:49 AM
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19. Quatloos for Quaaludes!
An economic and medical solution to every problem.
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 01:25 AM
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20. He never really left us man, still alive and well.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 02:22 PM
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23. What do you want from life?
I wondered . . .
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 05:33 PM
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25. Fee Waybil is a genius, I swear
And yes, they were the punk pioneers that never get mentioned
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 06:07 PM
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27. We got department stores full of cheap guitars
But when Sputnik plays 'em, you just go, go, go, GO!
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 01:32 AM
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21. Fender benders and leg spreaders
One of my favorite highs.

:woohoo:
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:37 PM
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22. Are there any legal alternatives to 'ludes?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 05:32 PM
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24. Unfortunately, no. The closest is Kratom
Which is more like a really good opiate, except its an upper

But all the pain relief, sense of well being, sexual drive that comes with mild opiates are there.

I recommend it personally!
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:02 AM
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30. I've never heard of Kratom. How do you get them? n/t
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:49 AM
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33. Lots of places on the net
Just google Kratom

They're also popular for folks detoxing off of opiates as they let you step down without withdrawls, and force you (if you keep taking them) to stay on low, non-life destroying doses

The really strange thing is that Kratom is an upper
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:53 AM
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31. You can keep the fake happiness.
I'd rather feel something real, even if it's bad.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:50 PM
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35. I've given up on reality - it goes 100 when you want to go 25, and goes 25 when you want to go100
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 10:54 AM
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34. Bong a 'lude, dude. (n/t)
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