So my wife and I.....

[MichaelHarris]

turned in our friend, another doctor for drug abuse. We feel crappy so ask us why we did it.

[greatauntoftriplets]

1. Because he was going to hurt patients?

As in, "First, do no harm"?

[gyopsy]

2. Why?

Hopefully it was for his own good!

[murielm99]

3. to save his life?

you and your wife did a good thing.

[ScreamingMeemie]

4. You did it because you care about this friend. You did it because

you care about the people who are this person's responsibility as patients. I applaud you for looking beyond and doing the right thing. Big hugs and thanks for you and Mrsmharris.

:hug: Laura

[bigendian]

o.k.

Why did you do it?

[bigwillq]

5. Why Oh Why?

I'm sure you had some good reasons.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

6. Takes guts, kid...

I respect that. Props to you.
Duckie

[bigwillq]

7. Hey when are we going to get some answers? (nt)

[MrSlayer]

8. Nobody likes a rat.

Have some cheese.

[Az]

11. Nobody likes having to bury a loved one

Because some quack was whacked out of their gord while they were entrusted with someones life.

[Name removed]

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[bigwillq]

12. I hear ya on some of your points

For one, I don't think people who abuse drugs, sell or buy them should go to jail. They need help and get treatment not sent behind bars.

But I think you're a bit hostile in your second graph. "Go straight to hell" and the stat about black males. I don't see how that relates to what the thread starter did to there "friend"

Bad experience maybe? Help me understand.

[Droopy]

14. Hold on there

We don't know the specifics of what happened yet. Maybe the doc was writing illegal prescriptions.

[MichaelHarris]

30. After we investigted the clinic we found he had....

written scripts in others name for his own use. The more we dig the more find.

[Az]

15. Do we know what happened yet

Or are you leaping to conclusions. It does not sound like this was an easy choice for them.

[bigwillq]

16. We don't know yet (nt)

[ScreamingMeemie]

21. Where did he say he called the cops??

:shrug:

[MrSoundAndVision]

24. The Penal Industry...

is an industry, and the stat is true. It is meant to show how out of hand the criminal justice system has gotten in at least one sense.

And to those of you who cite my lack of evidence for this or that: at least I have an opinion on the matter, you all seem too afraid to make the leap into uncertainty through speculation. I'll have you know the scientific method is nothing without intelligent hypothesis. I'm not afraid to be wrong, and you know a lot of the time I learn something from that.

The guy is a blind, socially propped moralist who has just blunted a colleague with the weapon of justice used for a rapist. Think about that.

[ScreamingMeemie]

25. No he hasn't. He has helped a good friend save himself from his

demons. How I wish we were able to help my father in law in this way. He has just saved a community from the possibility of malpractice.

From mharris' explanation it does not look like this is a crimianl matter.

[MichaelHarris]

31. Noooo we didn't call the police. They arrested him. We

called the Medical Board for the mandatory rehab. We have debated the difference in justice say a doctor will get as opposed to Joe Rocket off the street. Its not a fair system. I will say this, if we couldn't have gotten his keys and he insisted on driving his son we would have called them. That is the only choice you could possibly have. Also consider he was still on call. At any moment he could have been called in to deliver a baby or run a code or trauma.

[NewHampster]

10. My wife did this 20 years ago

We thought he was a great guy. Came to our place for dinner and partied with all the nurses.

He was killing himself with some anesthetic and was dangerous to patients.

When confronted with my wife who had laid a count trap he admitted that he had lost his license elsewhere and moved on.

That is a major wrong with the AMA. Lose it in one state and you should be done.

[MichaelHarris]

20. What pisses me off is after

We did all the notifying people came foward and said, "I suspected it". Well that kinda makes them just as guilty really. I mean if they think they we're protecting him they we're wrong, they we're just endangering patients. Its not an easy thing to have done.

[Az]

13. Please share what happened

I know this must be horribly difficult. We are here to help if we can.

[MichaelHarris]

17. He was

On call delivering babies and he came to our house and couldn't even stand up. After he left he crashed into a pole. Then a week later he came over again and ran into another pole, this time with his son in the car. We called all off the partners and and sent him to a rehab clinic. Gone for awhile now. Thing is I personally don't care about drugs, heck I errr ummmm well in the 70's with disco and all you had to do something, but being on call and being high is just bad.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

18. You did the right thing

I notice you said "another doctor." You know what is at stake for him and the patient...you did the right thing.

[bigwillq]

19. What was he on?

Thanks for sharing. i think I would've turned him in to. Can't be doing that at work or with your kids in the car.

[MichaelHarris]

32. 3 different things we found so far

Benzodiazepine, some pain stuff.

[Az]

22. Choices

He's getting help. He has a chance. That is more than he would have had if you had not stepped in.

What you do to yourself is your own business. But when you start risking others you are out of control. You as a friend have to deal with the choices you have before you. Furthermore you do not have the luxury of standing by. You know what risks he was taking with his patients. Be there for him. Do not expect him to understand immediately. But be there for him.

[Droopy]

23. I'm surprised the cops didn't get him for D.U.I. n/t

[MichaelHarris]

27. They did. We had to go tell his wife and kids.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

26. Good for you. There are waay too many Docs under the

influence of something or other, and they rarely get caught.
God will bless you.

[MichaelHarris]

29. We've felt bad about it for 4 days now.

We didn't call the police, someone had seen him hit the pole barricade thing and he drove off. He then showed up at our house whacked like Robert Downey on a good night. He went to learn against my wall and fell over. His son then whispered to me, "please don't let my daddy drive". We had guests over for dinner and it was kinda embarrassing. We took his keys, drove him home and before we got there the police pulled us over. He fessed up and the police took him away. We called the appropriate agencies and as soon as he was released on bail he was flown off to the Rush Limbaugh Center somewhere. Sorry, sometimes I try to make light of a bad situation, its a bad habit. You think about what you would do if it was your close friend and you just don't know. I guess since this guy holds lives, newborns, in his hands almost every night, we had little choice and little time to act. I know people will judge what we did a number of ways and I accept that. Heck I was never much of an angel. I just felt like unloading because he is a very good friend and my wifes partner. Like a bad Sunday night made for TV movie. And I had a really good article planned, kinda introducing myself in a funny way. I'll get around to it. You guys do rock, all of you, even those who choose to judge negatively. We all have a right to our own feelings.

[Skittles]

28. you did what you had to do

what if he made a serious medical mistake? THEN you would feel really bad.

[MichaelHarris]

33. I do thank you guys for listening to the rant.

I'll crank out a more positve post tomorrow. I've been planning it all day. Just didn't have the funny fingers tonight. Ladies, don't get any ideas about funny fingers. You got the baggypants guy for that.