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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 11:02 AM
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How to debate like a conservative:
Seriously... this happened today on FB.

A friend of mine posted a "comment" that he wondered what the President thought about the Pledge of Alliance.

Me: I hope he has more important things to think about...

Neocon dope: The fact that Americans see it as unimportant is what concerns me most. We have a president who has failed to live up to and defend the constitution, so I sincerely doubt he gives a hoot about the pledge of allegiance. I think we need to start burning down universities because they are the biggest source of evil that has been eroding the moral fabric of our country.
about an hour ago
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Me: Interesting... "defend the Constitution" but "burn down universities"....
about an hour ago
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Neocon dope: Yes because that is where all the anti-american and socialist and anti-christian vitriol is coming from so I think if we are to survive as a nation, we need to get rid of those people first, otherwise we are doomed as a nation
about an hour ago
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Me: Yeah, because controlling how people think is EXACTLY what the framers had in mind. (sarcasm)Nothing big about a government that shuts down the free discussion of ideas.(/sarcasm)
about an hour ago
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Neocon dope: Oh yeah, like the elitist pigs don't try to do that by belittling everyone who disagrees with them, or telling anyone who asks the difficult questions at town hall meetings to sit down and shut up. At least we let you say what you want to say, you guys arrogantly try to silence everyone else who you see as beneath you.
about an hour ago
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Me: Town hall meetings... you mean the ones were folks were encouraged to actually disrupt the meetings and shout down the folks answering the questions? You think those folks weren't trying to silence anyone?

I have no interest in Orwellian nightmare you see as an ideal society.See More
51 minutes ago
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Neocon dope: Ok, here's a history lesson for you, why don't you go to Washington and read all the biblical inscriptions on our monuments, look at the bricks on the foundation of the white house or the capital building and, and how about the documents on... display in the smithsonian and national archives talking about this being first and foremost a christian nation. Then we can talk about the free exchange of ideas and how B.O. claims we are no longer a christian nation while recent university studies concluded that 87% of Americans see themselves as christians. I guess you are not as smart as the university certificate on your wall suggests. See More
48 minutes ago
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Me: Ah... and there's the personal attack. End of discussion.
47 minutes ago
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Neocon dope: Yeah, well there were just as many obama groupies doing the same thing, so don't even try to use that as an argument.
47 minutes ago
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Neocon dope: Was it the part about your university education that bothered you, or was it just the boatload of reasonable evidence to suggest you were wrong that caused you to stop debating?
45 minutes ago
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Me: I don't have a university education. And even if I did, it wasn't relevant to the discussion. If you can't discuss ideas without getting personal, then I don't want to discuss ideas with you. (oh, and good Christians don't walk around calling people who disagree with them "stupid.")
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Neocon dope: Stop fabricating, I didnt call you stupid, I just took you down a notch from your high horse thats all
41 minutes ago
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 11:14 AM
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1. Wow...
Where do you even start with an idiot like that?

You did a great job of responding to him, but like my Dad always said, "you can't win an argument with an idiot."

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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 11:17 AM
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2. With friends like that...
Seriously. Unfriend is the way to go.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 11:21 AM
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3. He isn't on my friend list
He's on the friend list of the person I responded to.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 11:41 AM
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4. Doesn't it all boil down to "La La La La I Can't HEAR YOU!!!"?
:shrug:
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 12:07 PM
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5. I may have ignored the personal attack to ask him why
he seems to want to use information from universities so long as it's on his side of the discussion, while at the same time wanting to burn them all down.

I might have also pointed out that the original Pledge of Allegiance was written by a Baptist minister in the late 1800s and specifically left out any reference to God. That came later, in the "Red Scare" days. Same with the money.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 12:19 PM
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6. K-den. Let's start with Bob Jones, Regent, Liberty, and Patrick Henry College.
Anyone got a match? :evilgrin:
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 12:21 PM
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7. MissMillie, you and I need to be friends.
That person needs to be taken down professionally by an experienced debater. He can lodge all the personal attacks he'd like. I'd own him.

...beginning with pointing out all the scriptures and identifiers of this country as a Christian nation that aren't there. I'd know, I live in DC. I've been to the monuments repeatedly.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 01:01 PM
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9. always happy to have more friends
but some people just aren't worth wasting breath on... and Neocon dope is one who I just won't bother with.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 01:33 PM
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11. It would be a worthwhile debate if the person had any IQ
It's pretty obvious from the exchange that he/she didn't.

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 12:26 PM
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8. "Arguing on the internet WILL decrease your IQ"
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 01:23 PM
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10. totally sympathize- for me it was the old punk Objectivitists who were
friends of friends on FB. They had swallowed Fox News bile hook, line and sinker.


:wtf:
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