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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 07:33 PM
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How to emigrate?

A question for the ex-pats out there. How does one go about getting the hell out of this crap hole? It looks like my job will be disappearing in the not so distant future. Since I am a working man,I feel I am no longer wanted here in the US.

How do I go about getting a job outside the US? I know I will need one to leave.
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 07:36 PM
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1. New Zealand
Wants bodies. Check the internet doing a keyword search on "New Zealand" and "emigrate". Wife and I have researched it as well.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 07:39 PM
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2. Thanks!
NZ doesn't sound too bad. At least I already speak the language(sort of) :)
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loftycity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 07:48 PM
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4. I'm going to check that out now...thanks
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rogue11 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 07:40 PM
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3. info
You, too, eh? Yeah. A lot of people are making the move.

"When I was doing my research to emigrate from America, I found that there are few legal reasons to accept people moving here to the UK. Typically, the primary options are:

> Fiancee, getting married in six months
> Married to a British National
> Minister, Priest, etc. doing special religious work here
> Wealthy business person willing to invest large sums of capital in
establishing business ventures
> Student seeking an education you can't receive in America
> Missionary causes "

http://www.homeworking.com/discus/messages/20/220.html?1064359711

It goes on from there.

Australia is easier.

http://www.immi.gov.au/faq/migrate/index.htm
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justin899 Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 07:54 PM
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6. Wow
Thanks for the info!

I've been thinking a lot about leaving as well.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:32 PM
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10. Australia may be easier, but NZ is the better choice.
Second most beautiful country on the planet, reasonable politics, great cities, deeply cool people.
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Striker Davies Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 02:34 AM
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18. Second?
I'm Australian, British, widely travelled, and I reckon I have never seen any country on Earth as beautiful as New Zealand. It has everything every other country has, but better! Snow covered Alps? Screw Switzerland, Mount Cook Ranges are gobsmacking. Beaches? Forget those scrabbly gravel pits of Hawaii, bugger Tahiti, not even Australia's beaches match the stuff up in Bay of Islands. Fjords? Those pipsqueak indents in Norway are laughable compared to the South-West coast of South Island.

But out of interest - what's your first choice?
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 12:31 AM
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17. Hmmm.... I know someone who was trying to move to Australia....
and she said it was even harder to get in there than the US.
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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 07:49 PM
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5. I don't know what you do
but check international newspapers and the internet of course. Why stick to English speaking countries? The whole world is interesting, but, of course, you must avoid places where it is not safe for Americans (thanks to your government's foreign policies).
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:12 PM
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7. I wouldn't mind


Going to a non-english speaking country either. I just want to get the hell out of here,at least for a while. As long as I can go somewhere where working people are valued,it's all good.
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Striker Davies Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:16 PM
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8. What's the skill set?
Edited on Tue Mar-30-04 08:35 PM by Striker Davies
Countries have different needs.

Australia and NZ both seriously short of medical types, from doctors through nursing, physios, etc, but US qualifications for Doctors are not considered adequate and further training is required.

IT types, especially techie practitioners in SAP highly in demand in Thailand, Singapore, Hong Kong and Middle East.

Canada may soon be setting up special refugee status for Americans fleeing political, religious or sexual-orientation persecution (not entirely joking there).

Australia represents the best possible place for North Americans, imo.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:30 PM
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9. skill set
Edited on Tue Mar-30-04 10:33 PM by GTRMAN

Right now,I am working as a television board op/engineer. I really like the work.


I have worked a lot of jobs over the years. I was a heavy equipment mechanic back in the 80's,and worked a couple years in a print shop.I have also worked as a burner/fitter building heat exchangers and other equipment for oilfield applications.

On edit: 30 years as an electric guitarist. 20 years as vocalist.
Spent a lot of time behind a mixer both live and studio.
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Striker Davies Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 02:37 AM
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19. You might be okay for Australia
That sounds like the sort of skill needed in a number of industries. Your age might be a factor - above 45, forget it, unless coming with money to set up your own company.

But give it a go! This wondrous country is full of Americans and Canadians who came for a time and never left!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:54 PM
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14. Welcome to DU!
Thanks for the info (all).

I was originally contemplating suicide, but emigration to New Zealand (which I do qualify for :party: ) or Canada (only as a refugee basis, I failed their introductary exam :cry: ) might give me a few more years... I prefer Canada because of its closer distance, but New Zealand's rather cool too...
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:38 PM
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11. emigrate to scotland, the links, no bull.
http://www.scotland.gov.uk
"We want to encourage overseas students who graduate from Scottish universities to consider making Scotland their home. I am pleased to welcome you to Scotland today."

http://www.planning.ed.ac.uk/scottish_heis.htm
Here is a link page for the universities. A scottish university is preferable because the cost of living is
lower, and the immigration requirement (as you can read in the 4th link below) is around scotland.
For all practical purposes, you could use this address as your "home" the instant you arrive so that
you have a consistent address until you do!

http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/default.asp?pageid=26
This is the home office (INS) for the straight details on visa types.

PM me if you need more stuff.

I've posted this before a few times, in response to the same question. If you're serious, get in to a scottish graduate school,
and you can get full UK citizenship.

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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:44 PM
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12. I would love to live in Scotland

My ancestral home. I wonder about my chances of getting into a Scottish graduate school since I am 40 and don't even have a bachelor's degree.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:49 PM
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13. Try heriot watt
Edited on Tue Mar-30-04 10:50 PM by sweetheart
they'll accept work-equivalency for an undergrad... and heck, you
could pursue an undergrad if you were so inclined... but there is also a programme called a "new route Ph.D" that you could also
pursue with a work-equivalency undergrad.

I have no undergrad... i did a masters at Heriot-Watt. I live in
Scotland. I'll be 42 this year. It works.

Where there is a will there is a way. Scotland and American go way
way back and there is no reason NOT to reverse emigrate, considering the
number of scots who've come the other way.

Scotland is experiencing strategic depopulation. Make your bid for
power and re-invigorate the DNA-pool of the northeast atlantic.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:55 PM
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15. Thanks,I'll give it a shot! <nt>
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Striker Davies Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 02:39 AM
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20. Also recommended!
A fantastic country, one of the most educated populations in the world, marvellous pubs and the Scotch you find in the bars is often a brand never exported. Language might be a problem!
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:34 PM
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16. thanks for the links
I too am also looking to get out; to someplace warm, like Brazil...Hoping i can make it there by the end of the year
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 05:02 AM
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21. Canada maybe?
I've been looking at Canada. This site has a bunch of info on Canada and how to go about the immigration process. Cold up there? Yes. But not republican.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/
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Striker Davies Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 07:27 AM
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23. Oh My Gawd, not Canada!!!
Nasty, evil socialist commie pinko nation with all those evil commie things like a national health care system, clean streets, low crime rates, good public transport, a metric system, and extraordinarily polite, courteous people.

How could anyone want to live there?
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 06:31 AM
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22. The money is FAR better in the UAE
IT's truly multi-cultural...

Also, Dubai is turning into a modern hypercity... think the Middle-east's Hongkong, but with better architecture and shopping.
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