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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 04:34 PM
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Is prince williams fiance' england's future queen?
I have no idea how this works.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 04:52 PM
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1. I think that to be a queen, there has to be a blood line
Edited on Tue Nov-16-10 04:53 PM by MrScorpio
So she'd be a princess and the King's consort

Prince Phillip is the Queen's consort and so on
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 04:58 PM
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2. According to Wikipedia:
Queen of England may refer to:

Any of the female monarchs of England
Any wife of a male monarch of England who functioned as his official consort during his reign
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:03 PM
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4. Well, that's pretty damned sexist
Looks like the male official consorts are getting the short end of the stick.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:08 PM
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6. My friend, complaining about the sexism of royalty kinda misses the point
These people literally think that they are ordained to be better people than the rest of humanity and it is the job of all of us peons to give them money.

They are parasite is every sense of the word.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:14 PM
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7. That was pretty much a lame joke
I envision a future Queen Kate to do nothing more than sitting on her throne eating bon-bons all day long, pining for the days when she actually had privacy.
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:56 PM
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21. Couldn't agree more
When I was younger, I wondered if they ever questioned their existence, now I know. What is even stupider, are the hangers-on. I Saw the royalty thing, in China and in England and it couldn't be more disgusting.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:48 AM
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27. +1
The whole royalty thing is an utter joke, and disgrace as well. But to be nice, and superficial, the young lady is very beautiful.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:33 PM
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10. No, it works the same way for the men - if the royal bloodline is through the woman,
then the husband would be Prince, not King, such as current Queen Liz's (now dead) husband.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:51 PM
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14. Philip is still alive
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 04:59 PM
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3. Queens named Catherine (Katharine?) don't have such a cheery history
among the British Royals.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:42 PM
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20. Nope, sorry! A woman will be Queen, and a man a Prince, because no person can rank more highly than
Edited on Tue Nov-16-10 11:42 PM by WinkyDink
the Monarch.
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 01:40 AM
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22. That actually makes sense.
Well, except for the rankings being based on chess pieces part.:shrug:
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:23 AM
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23. Actually, a queen regnant can grant her husband the Crown Matrimonial.
With parliament's approval, he would be king and be co-monarch - William III and Mary II.
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JoDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:05 AM
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24. They didn't do that with Victoria's Albert
because he was foreign born. There was no way Parliament would go for it. So his title was Prince Consort. I don't know if they considered it for Prince Consort Philip or not.

My one gush about this situation: William gave her his mother's engagement ring. So sweet!
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:45 AM
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26. Yes, Albert's foreign born status was an important factor.
Perhaps the most important consideration concerning a dual monarchy is the possibility that he'll outlive her as Wm III did.

As for Phil, word is it was considered for a nanosecond, then dropped. QM Elizabeth loathed the Mountbattens and Phil is an arrogant asshole.

I suspect the engagement ring will be given to each bride of a future PofW.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:05 PM
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5. She will be given the title of queen when he becomes King, but never will rule...
she won't be in line for that at all...her kids will be, though.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:40 PM
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17. Neither will he..never rule
just a rubberstamp..
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Crystal Clarity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:16 PM
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8. She'd (eventually) be queen consort
If/when William becomes king. Princess of Wales (among other of his titles) until then as his wife.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:27 PM
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9. I am having a difficult time caring
I do hope they have a long, untypically happy marriage!

Can't be any worse than what his folks went through.

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:37 PM
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11. I think this pair have a better chance than Charles & Diana ever had
Edited on Tue Nov-16-10 05:38 PM by LynneSin
This was pretty much Prince Williams first love and they were friends long before they became romantic together. (They shared a flat at college along with other classmates).

Prince Charles was a bit of a playboy in his early years and honestly, it seems like Diana was some random pick from eligible single women. Charles never had the established relationship with Diana that William has with Kate.

Also, since Will and Kate went public with their relationship a few years back, Kate has had years now dealing with the intense public scrutiny that goes along with dating someone who would be the next King of England. No one had a clue who Diana was until she became engaged to Charles, so she pretty much was thrusted into the limelight with no preparation whatsoever.

Vanity Fair had a really great article about Will & Kate's engagement and for Will he was smart and said he would not marry until 28-30. He really wanted to make sure not only that Kate was the one but that she was comfortable with being in the public limelight.

I wish them the best!
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:16 PM
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12. Assuming that we still have a monarchy by then, probably.
Edited on Tue Nov-16-10 06:20 PM by LeftishBrit
He is next in line to the throne after his father Prince Charles; and if/when he is King, his wife will be Queen. But (a) the recent Royals don't have a terribly strong record for *staying* married to their first spouse; and (b) while I'm fairly sure that Britain will keep the Monarchy as long as Liz is Queen, I'm less sure what will happen after she dies or abdicates.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:55 PM
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15. What do you think the chances are
of the monarchy bypassing Charles entirely?
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:41 PM
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18. Rare to none
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JoDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:10 AM
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25. I think the chances are 50/50
Charles would have to formally abdicate his position in succession for that to happen. Doing so and letting the crown go straight to William would probably be a popular move, considering that Will is liked and Camillia isn't.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:57 PM
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13. If they marry and he becomes king, she will be queen consort.
Queen consort: wife of the king
Queen regnant: monarch in her own right, ie Elizabeth II
Queen mother: mother of the reigning monarch
Queen dowager: wife of the former monarch, but not mother of current.

If and if, she will have all the perks, but she can not reign herself. The most she might do is be a regent, ie hold the reins if the heir apparent is a minor.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:32 PM
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16. Thanks for the information everyone!
I know I could have googled it, but I like getting information from live people too.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:41 PM
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19. YES. Period. Absolutely. End of story. (Ummm...history, anyone?)
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