So I'm having a bevy with a couple Navajo last night...

[bluedigger]

So I'm having a bevy with a couple Navajo last night and they started discussing Thanksgiving plans...

So I ask them if they were ever conflicted about the holiday?

Confused looks...

"You know, y'all could have just let the pilgrims starve?"

Blank looks...

Then they bought me a shot.

:rofl:

[Orrex]

1. Didn't realize that the Navajo were at the Plymouth Thanksgiving celebration

News to me!

[bluedigger]

2. They are a subgroup of Native Americans.

You can look it up.

[RandomThoughts]

3. Intersting concept.

However it did not change anything when Roanoke colony did not survive.

[bluedigger]

5. I just asked them if they were conflicted, not if a different outcome was a rational expectation.

:rofl:

They think they've found Roanoke, btw, so maybe we'll eventually find out what caused it's demise.

[tigereye]

4. well, I've read that some initial settler interactions with tribes in New England

were fairly positive (and mutually beneficial), but I see what you mean.

[bluedigger]

6. Maybe in the short term.

Long term, things didn't work out all that well for the New England tribes...:shrug:

[tigereye]

11. this is true.

[Arugula Latte]

7. I read that as "So I'm having a baby with a couple Navajo ..."

:blush:

[bluedigger]

9. LOL!

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

[Odin2005]

8. Uh, it wasn't the Navajo that were living there.

:eyes:

it was some Algonquian tribe, can't remember the name.

Speaking of Navajo, I just read a very interesting paper showing that the language family it belongs to, Na-Dene, is related to a endangered language in Siberia called Ket.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Den%C3%A9-Yeniseian_languages

[bluedigger]

10. Feel free to read upthread...

I didn't do well in linguistics - the Russian teacher kept writing the examples in Cyrillic...:crazy:

[CBGLuthier]

12. Your attitude about all indians being the same is a little bit insulting.

and very boorishly ignorant.

[bluedigger]

13. They generally prefer Native American.

And you could at least capitalize Indian if you're going to use that insulting term.

But what do I know, I'm an ignorant boor...:shrug:

[nolabear]

14. There's not really a consensus on that.

Most of the Indians I know call themselves Indians, at least in the US. In Canada it's more likely First Nations. But it's been my experience that unless there's a lot of anger about other things people will take your good intentions as just that, and politely let you know what they prefer. Many prefer being referred to by their tribal name and think the idea they're all one big family is funny, but then will also act as one big family. Folks are funny that way, all over the world.

[bluedigger]

15. I said "generally"...

I give up. I can't call them Navajo, which is what they were, because I'm lumping them all together. Can't call them Native American or Indians without someone else having a problem...

It was just meant as a somewhat amusing first person anecdote, but the minute ethnicity enters the equation everyone wants their PC merit badge...

[nolabear]

16. LOL! But my point was exactly the opposite.

If you do it with respect, which I think you are, what you call them doesn't really ruffle most folks unless they're upset about something else.

I'm on your side, White Eyes.

[MilesColtrane]

17. I don't think you can be said to have a bevy unless you own who or what constitutes the bevy.