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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 12:42 AM
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My dad is dying. Seems like too many of us are posting such threads recently.
I don't think he's going to pull out of this latest complication.

I saw him for the first time in three years two weeks ago - just for the afternoon, but I flew in (we live on opposite coasts) to sit with him a while. He has been extraordinarily healthy for most of his 82 years, but a combination of a flaky kidney and several aneurysms are combining to make him miserable. He's a doctor, and has decided he doesn't want any more treatment. It hasn't been an easy life for him, and he's dying in damn near destitution (were it not for those horrible "socialistic" benefits we Democrats fight for such as Social Security and veteran's benefits (from WWII) he'd have no income at all). He was not a very 'present' father - but I knew he loved me, and if I needed him or help, he'd be there. So, not much father/daughter bonding over the years, but he was a presence I could turn to if necessary.

So I think I've seen him for the last time. Four of my sisters are nearby, three see him regularly (the other one travels a lot for work). He's not alone. His girlfriend is around a lot, too.

One thing I don't quite understand is that my husband told me that if my father dies it will be because we (my sisters and I) didn't do enough - he had no motivation to live. I'm just numb right now, but that statement strikes me as ... wrong.



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denbot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 12:48 AM
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1. Sorry to hear about your pop Flaxbee...
Your husband's comment is puzzling..
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:29 AM
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3. thanks, denbot.
I don't know when the call will come, but I think it will be relatively soon.

Yeah, I think once I quit feeling upset about my father, I'm going to be angry. Well, I already am, but I've got other things to think about now than an insensitive comment by the person who's supposed to 'have my back', so to speak.


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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 12:49 AM
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2. I'm so sorry Flaxbee
I'm glad you got to spend some time with your Father.

I can't understand WHY your husband would say what he did to you. It sounds cruel and so wrong. :hug:

aA
kesha
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:31 AM
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4. thank you, kesha
I haven't lost a parent yet - this is new to me. I am glad I got to spend time with him, too. I'm the only one who lives on the east coast (everyone else is on the west) and I talked to my dad pretty regularly, but it was good to hold his hand and just give him a hug.

I don't understand my husband's comment, either.
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kimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:33 AM
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5. Ah, I'm so sorry
It's good that you re-connected with your dad, though. That will ease your memories, I think. The rest, well, it is perplexing.

Please take care of YOU. :hug:
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 02:15 AM
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6. Flaxbee, I'm sorry. Please don't listen to your husband.
We all die. You, I and everyone reading this and everyone they love will die. I wish it weren't so but it is. Your father will go when he must, and it won't be because of you. I don't know your husband or what would motivate him to say such a thing but dwelling on something like the whys and whens of a person's departing life is fruitless. Those of us who are still here can just love one another through the sorrow. Take care.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 06:05 AM
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7. I am really sorry to hear about your father
I hope you can just let your husband's comment go. This is really hard enough without that kind of thoughtless comment. :hug:
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:35 AM
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8. Wow double whammy there...
how insensitive (borderline mean) of your husband. Sorry about your Dad and being there for him now is good of you.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:46 AM
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9. First off, I am sorry about Dad.
:hug:

Can't believe hubby said what he did. Maybe it was a temporary lapse in judgment. I have no answers for that one.

:hug:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 09:07 AM
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10. my thoughts go out to you at this very difficult time of life.
these things are never easy -- my best to you and your family.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 09:21 AM
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11. Condolences on your father
It sounds like he spent his life in service to others, being a doctor but destitute at 82. Here in Texas that just doesn't happen: doctors here are mostly in "business" not caring about serving or healing. When I go to my doctor I get maybe 2 minutes of his time and he's so "caring" and "nice." Then I get the bill about 30 days later... Kaboom!

Cherish the memories of your father. I lost mine 15 years ago, he was 79 and died of cancer which he'd had chemo for but had metastasised so the doctors notified him there would be no further treatment forthcoming. At that time I had just started at a job and they refused to give me time off to go see him so my last contact with my dad was a phone call.

We had been estranged for over 30 years prior to that phone call so I wanted to make sure I let him know that I had forgiven him years before but was too stubborn, too "busy" to reach out before. My advice, for what it's worth, is to let your dad know how much you appreciated the time you had with him and maybe thank him for being there for so many people including you.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 09:29 AM
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12. Don't know how to take that comment from your husband so, I will just offer
you some comfort, peace and mindful energy at this difficult time. :hug:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 09:31 AM
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13. I completely disagree with your husband. Sometimes people are just done with it all. It happened
that way with my own Dad and he was only 63. I think for him the physical pain he was in just wore him down, and the newest complications were just the final straw. (That and there were med issues that didn't help.)

So try to forget what your husband said. He's not your Dad so can't speak with all authority about how he feels. :hug:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 10:01 AM
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14. Sorry to hear that Flax. I'm glad he is not alone.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 06:53 PM
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15. your husband's comment might be because he is frightened about his own
father, who knows? I think it is very hard for "the kids" to hear that mom and dad don't want anymore treatment.


I feel for you and for your father. My father is 85 and it is hard to see very vibrant and active people not be able to function as well due to illnesses.


:hug:
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 09:33 PM
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16. my thought too
his own fears

condolences, Flaxbee
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 10:56 PM
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17. his father died years ago, and his mother this last summer


perhaps that is it. I don't think it was said to wound; he has a tendency to be sort of tone-deaf, so to speak, about what he says sometimes, not realizing how truly awful things can sound.

Thank you for your point of view. It helped.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 11:01 PM
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18. So sorry flaxbee.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 11:01 PM
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19. That was a horrible thing for your husband to say
As if you aren't going through enough right now. :-(

:hug:
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