Let's go Fosse, guys

[Taverner]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADeU6qz37B4&feature=related

Fosse and Schwartz, what's not to like?

[kentauros]

1. That just makes me think of Roy Scheider and "All That Jazz"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DKeBpEgN5E


which then leads me to think of his best role, and it's not what most people think ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ_KXK3eNdI

[Taverner]

2. Me too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNcl0L7eJUY

Now THAT was a movie!

And yes, I loved The Sorcerer. Although it had a horrible title.

[RandomThoughts]

3. Many people are afraid of labels, not thinking whats inside.

Label Trap.

And how to avoid Label trap. That is shown at the same time, why would it scare you, unless you accept some label as an indicator of what is inside of you or someone else.

Label trap only has power if you believe in it.

[Taverner]

7. Labels are there for a reason

Whether they be Venn Diagrams or Scatterplot Diagrams, we need our labels...

[RandomThoughts]

8. Only if they are accurate.

People have been trained to use reverse labels in Orwellian fashion.

So people need to learn the difference from a label and what something is.



If you believe in label trap, then you would need to send me everything in the world, and I don't believe that, but I can construct label traps that say that. Side note, I do believe I am due beer and travel money and many experiences.

Therefore labels are not there only for a RE a son. showing that is a trap.

Since other people can construct labels saying I should have nothing. Showing that labels have to be either sometimes wrong, and sometime right, or that the label does not determine anything.

[Taverner]

9. Yes - this is true

I don't think labels are a trap, but a metaphorical classification, much like you wouold about the color red.

You might include information about 'red states' or 'red commies.'

Take it to an even deeper level - water. You, I and most of us know this is Hydrogen with two parts Oxygen. That is a label.

Granted, I have no problem with eliminating malevolent labels - always following some folk urban myth.

But labels are what our brain uses to organize things.

Think a 'tag' in computer science.

[kentauros]

4. My tastes have changed over the years,

so I'm not as interested in All That Jazz any longer. Sorcerer is still a favorite, partly due to Tangerine Dream's soundtrack :D

I think, too, that the title can be compared with "Powaqqatsi" which means "Sorcerer of Life / Stealer of Life". This would help in understanding why "Sorcerer" is still a good title :)

[whistler162]

5. I prefer the vintage Fosse and Haney matchup.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw0FSREoaLQ

[Taverner]

6. Love it but too much talent

How about...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNcl0L7eJUY

While yeah, that had talent, but it also had the manic marriage of his film genius and his dance genius

[Paladin]

10. "Too Much Talent"?

Never mind.....

[Taverner]

11. Yeah yeah yeah I know....

But damn those two dancers are talented!

And although that scene is breathtaking, it doesn't move you in the way the show 'Pippin' does, does, with all of its idiosyncrasies.

[Paladin]

12. I Grasp Your Meaning.....

...but I am a HUGE "Kiss Me Kate" and Fosse fan......

[Dangerously Amused]

13. "Pippin" freaking rocks.

Vastly under-rated and under-appreciated; ranks way up there in the overall top ten (okay, maybe top twenty) musicals of all time imho. I think a lot people simply don't get the nuances in the story line, the rich symbolism and especially the ending (the first ending anyway, before they rewrote it to please the masses).

:toast:

[Taverner]

14. Yes it does - and I'm glad the WIlliam Katt version has the original ending