Downton Abbey fans - oh, the humanity! How long do we have to wait for "Season 2"??

[Flaxbee]

Really enjoyed this series; I understand part 2 will begin production this spring - how long do you think before it'll be on PBS? Gah!

[grasswire]

1. ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you have made my night!

I thought it ended tonight forever.

Oh!!!!

There's still hope for Lady Mary and the dashing Matthew!

Hooooooooooo!

And there was much rejoicing in the land.

[raccoon]

2. Does anyone else get tired of Lady Mary's wishy-washiness?

She love Matthew, she loves him not, she wants to marry Matthew, no, she doesn't. At this point, I'd say if Matthew did marry her, he is a ninny.

Of course with WWI starting, my guess is most of the men who go will be wiped out.

[Flaxbee]

3. yes, Lady Mary is a twit

Really think she should figure out her own mind.

O'Brien is evil.

[raccoon]

5. I thought last night she'd hang herself or something. nt

[Arkansas Granny]

6. I wondered about that myself. It really seemed that they were leading

up to something.

[raccoon]

19. Too late to edit. I meant I thought O'Brien was going to hang herself. nt

[grasswire]

8. I think what's holding Mary back is the fact that she has to TELL HIM

...about the Turk. The question is will Matthew love her after he is told that.

She certainly did a number on Lady Edith. Heh.

[AngryAmish]

9. Alrighty, what is the deal with the Turk?

I saw the last half hour and got a bit engrossed. I have to catch up.

[grasswire]

10. a Turkish hotblooded VIP stayed at the estate one night...

....and he entered Mary's bedroom and there was some kind of sex. We don't know what kind. Unfortunately, he died in her bed. She went to her mother for help and they dragged the body back to the Turk's own bed. Of course, Daisy saw this in the middle of the night and was convinced to tell Lady Edith. Lady Edith informed the Turkish ambassador.

The Turk told Mary "You'll still be a virgin" when she asked him if it was going to hurt.

Oh, the awful footman is the one who took the Turk to Mary's room in the night after he had made a pass at the Turk himself!

[AngryAmish]

11. A dirty Turk!

oh my, that is not proper at all...no wonder tongues are wagging.

[grasswire]

12. yes, and why it is so important to get Mary "settled" before the whole world knows...

...what happened.

[MorningGlow]

13. He was pretty hot

I wonder if it was more the unseemliness of a man in an allegedly virginal young woman's bed more than his nationality... (He was raised in England, they noted.)

[AngryAmish]

14. no, the Turks are a notoriously dirty race

My, my...poor Mary will never be able to show her face in London again. And to think she was thinkng of trapping that poor man...

[MorningGlow]

15. LOL this guy was more Mick Jagger than "dirty furriner"

But yeah, his nationality didn't help, considering the mindset back then.

[AngryAmish]

16. Edwardian england was not real open minded when it came to miscegenation

Funny looking back at it in hindsight how uptight people were.

[grasswire]

17. I think you may have mis-read that.

I don't think she was planning on trapping him. She wouldn't say yes right away to his proposal of marriage because she couldn't bring herself to tell him about the Turk.

In the meantime, her own mother was found pregnant which could change the whole dynamic. If her mother bore a boy child, Matthew would NOT be the heir to the estate. He would be just a poor barrister. Mary's granny advised her to say yes to Matthew because she could always back out later if he turned out to be poor. THAT would be rude.

Mary just was unsettled for a few weeks. Then, of course, her mother stepped on a bar of soap, fell and lost the baby boy. Which made Matthew the undisputed heir of the estate.

Which made Matthew think that when Mary did say yes, it was only because he was again the heir to wealth.

Which made Mary cry, because she does love him but it seems all is awry.

[AngryAmish]

18. If she loved him so bad, why was the turk found in her bed?

Maybe if someone could steal a cow creamer...

[grasswire]

22. the turk was before she fell in love with Matthew

...or realized she was in love with him.

[Lisa D]

29. Love the Wodehouse reference!

The Code of the Woosters is my favorite. :)

[AngryAmish]

30. Great Sermon Handicap was always my favorite story

[Pithlet]

24. That was my impression, too.

She'd told her mother she should tell him about it. I think her fear about that was holding her back. But Matthew doesn't know that, and is assuming it was the baby possibly being a boy holding her up.

[Flaxbee]

4. at the very end of the episode last night, it said "season 2 will begin production this spring"

... I just want to know how long production, post production, etc., takes!!!

[MorningGlow]

7. According to Wikipedia...

"The second series will be composed of eight episodes. Filming begins in March 2011. The second series will air from Autumn 2011, and will be followed by a Christmas special later in the year."

The first part made it to PBS in record time (it aired in the UK in September), but I'm still going to rely on torrents to get my DT fix as soon as possible. :hide:

[monmouth]

21. Allistair Cook will be on next week, maybe with some excerpts of

other great classics. Love the pbs..

[monmouth]

20. Did you love how frightened they were of the phone? It rang in the

kitchen, they all freaked and no one wanted to answer. I had missed Ep. 2 so went to pbs.org and watched online. Love, love this series. Also, the maid that got the secretarial job, great.

[grasswire]

23. I like the setup for kitchen drama in the next season

Two cooks in the kitchen. Heh.

[JitterbugPerfume]

25. I have it taped

I haven't has time to watch it yet.

I am resisting the urge to read this thread.

[Flaxbee]

26. Wow - the first series cost approx. 1 million pounds an hour to film...

making it the most expensive British TV show ever produced. It is also the most successful British period drama since Brideshead Revisited, with British ratings exceeding 10 million viewers.



Wow. But, it is a beautiful series.

Trivia: Elizabeth McGovern, who plays the Countess, is the daughter of my Wills & Trusts professor at UCLA Law -- she stopped by class once or twice; needless to say, she always commanded more attention than her dad. :)

[IcyPeas]

27. pieces cut out?

a few weeks ago some of us were discussing the rumor that it was cut for us Americans - then the story was just that it fit into our 4 hour non commercial episodes here whereas in the U.K. it was longer due to commercial breaks.....

well...

I saw this when I was in Scotland last summer and I did notice 2 things that were missing (unless I blinked and missed them, in which case I would be wrong here) but...

1. There was incident where some of Robert (Earl of Grantham) snuff boxes went missing (he was a collector of snuff boxes which they did show in an early episode and Bates was admiring them). Of course we know who took them and it wasn't Bates, but the suspicion was on him at first!! Anyway did I miss that or did they not cover the snuff box incident?

another thing...

2. William, the second footman/groom's mother.. She was ill and I forget exactly but the household came to know his mother was sick but they thought it best that he wasn't told (I forget why...) but Mary thought he should be told so we did see her telling William to take some time off to go see his mother and she would okay it. I thought that was a thumbs up for Mary.

anyway.... like I said, did I blink? or did you guys not see these 2 points either?

[Rosco T.]

28. Yup, what's shown over here is cut....

www.amazon.co.uk you can get the uncut version

[Pithlet]

31. Huh! We did see the very beginning of the Bates snuff box story.

When Bates first joins the staff he he notices and admires the snuff boxes while Thomas is showing him around, and makes some comment about being around such fine things every day even though they don't belong to them. Thomas sneers at him and then they move on. It seemed like a set up for something, but then we never saw anything more about it. I also thought William's mother's storyline was awkwardly introduced. I thought we wee meant to know more and Mary's handling was significant somehow. I thought maybe I'd just missed something. There's nothing about the staff knowing she's sick and hiding it from him. All of a sudden she just tells Wililiam, and off he goes. It just came out of nowhere.