I just saw another show saying torture has some good outcome.

[RandomThoughts]

How can 'the war on terror' be won by terrorizing people.

Do you see the Orwellian words there.


I understand what they are doing. In the world of no care, or 'game playing'. A person does one thing consistently. No matter what happens, no matter what the information shows.


Their strategy is to declare victory and keep doing what they want to do, or keep saying what they want to believe.



They actually are not even justifying or defending torture, they know there group looks bad if torture is not rationalized by any means, that is why they are defending torture, to try and justify there position, and by that make themselves look competent. Honestly the torture apologist don't care anything about the effects of torture. They care about not looking as bad as tortures look.

They only care about the effects of the showing that there ideas of torture are wrong.

It was wrong before, it is wrong now, it was ineffective then, it is ineffective now. It is wrong by thought and feeling, and wrong by result. However it is the only way they can defend there position, since they like it, and have to defend it to defend who they are.


Going to play a favorite song.

Give Me Strength by Over the Rhine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVbl0CulcZg

[RandomThoughts]

1. And one more thing

I am due beer and travel money, and that will be sent.

[Rhiannon12866]

2. If it was on CNN, I saw that, too.

I don't know how they can keep saying that, when it's been proven to be false and the president has outlawed it. :(

And I believe that you're right in your reasoning. They're still trying to justify it. :(

[AtomicKitten]

3. I saw that mess on CNN tonight.

P(undit)-holes like Gloria Borger said the CIA got pertinent info under torture from KSM that developed over the years culminating in catching bin Laden. They insisted torture works!

What really pissed me off was referring to a "decade-long hunt" for bin Laden. Horseshit. Junior gave up after six months and invaded Iraq instead, and the actual department that was supposed to focus on bin Laden was officially shut down in 2006.

*&&^$%##* liars trying to revise history on my TV.