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sam11111 Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 07:17 AM
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union wages 20% higher?
Memory unsure

Anyone?
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 07:19 AM
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1. Higher than what?
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sam11111 Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 07:24 AM
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2. than non union blokes nt
Nt
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 07:40 AM
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3. Union workers earn 28 percent more than their nonunion counterparts.
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sam11111 Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 07:50 AM
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4. THANKS brick! PS why isnt it easy to get folks to want to join, even tho there are formation roadblo
Roadblocks fm the Bosses?

They shd be eager to join!!
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 08:13 AM
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5. They buy all the propaganda
You'll make less because of union dues
Too many rules
It's nearly impossible to move up the ladder
Seniority trumps merit
etc.

I've worked along side of non-union workers and heard all of this. I've shown them my check stub and explained how all of their points were wrong. They were quite impressed with my take-home pay, but didn't believe anything I said. They couldn't come up with a reason why I would lie to them, but they wouldn't change their mind.

I think it boils down to fear of change.
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sam11111 Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 08:25 AM
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6. 28% link improvrd... , and thanks Pinto
A glitchless one--- Ihope---

http://www.aflcio.org/joinaunion/why/uniondifference/uniondiff4.cfm.
Pinto much food for thought there. Must expand unions! Sweden had 90% in unions last I heard.

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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 08:35 AM
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7. Mr. Brickbat was an organizer for some time, and the roadblocks he ran into were people who were
Edited on Sun Sep-04-11 08:36 AM by Brickbat
afraid to stand up for themselves or others. It's hard to build up trust among workers who have been pitted against each other for so long. And once a person is willing to stand up for himself, he's afraid to do it if he's the only one doing it. Plus all the lies that Pintobean listed -- dues costing too much, a "third-party" involvement between the sacred bond of employer-employee, threats of firing, physical intimidation, and so on.
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sam11111 Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:22 AM
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8. self delete
Edited on Sun Sep-04-11 11:31 AM by sam11111
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sam11111 Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:21 PM
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delayed thank you brick i was worn out by glitches
Your reply is very clarificatory. Is that a word?
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sam11111 Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:21 PM
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10. delayed thank you brick i was worn out by glitches
Your reply is very clarificatory. Is that a word?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:48 AM
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9. I was a member of SEIU Local #1099 back when I was a Medical Assistant.
I estimate my pay was about 20% higher than before I joined the union. I also loved knowing we had a real pit bull in our corner if we needed one. Her attitude toward those she represented was: "Do your job, work hard, and make us proud. We'll take care of everything else."

I got cost-of-living raises twice a year and a clothing allowance.

As a medical provider now, I'm am no longer in a union, but I still support union labor 100%. When my old union went on strike against my former employer a few weeks back, I did a Madison, Wis, and sent the strikers a boat-load of pizzas to show my support.

Union: YES! :thumbsup:
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sam11111 Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:27 PM
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11. aristus thanks . like your spirit!
Keep helping!
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:05 PM
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12. Will do.
:fistbump:
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