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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:07 AM
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This wasn't too harsh, was it?

I'm on a dating site. More for the fun of it than anything else, really (The burns are still sore). But when someone who is so clearly not my type, apparently more incompatible than methane and the desire to breathe, says; "i would like to get to know you we should go for a ride.", is it wrong to respond thusly;

Thank you for your flattering invitation.

Unfortunately, as an empiricist and as someone who has been hurt before, my standards are set in stone. This is not to say you are not a great person, which I'm sure you are, but that any time I see some kind of indication of incompatibility, I tend to be a little 'gun shy'... so to speak. (Actually, I do quite like guns)
I'll go over the compatibility thing first, then explain why it would be nice to hear back from you.

The 'compatibility' issue is this;

- I speak and write in English, with all of those pesky rules that come with it. I'm not perfect, of course, but I tend to utilize capitalization and punctuation and haven't much regard for those that do not.

- You more than likely watch a news channel that claims footage with palm trees in it was taken in Madison, Wisconsin.

- You likely believe that Barack Obama was born in Kenya, despite the fact that there exists more evidence of his US citizenship than produced by any other President in history.

- You believe in the unprovable fairy tale that God (the reality of 'whom' I actually do believe in in ways you're not likely to grasp) created everything in 6 days despite being eternal, but do not believe in Evolution, for which not only does a vast body of evidence exist, but which has also been PROVEN in clinical conditions... much like the 'theory' of gravity has also been proven.

- Despite the fact that you reject the science that proves out evolution, you utilize the very fruits of science daily while driving a car, using a cell phone, watching tv, enjoying immunities from deadly diseases, and, oh yeah... posting on dating sites on the internet which Al Gore did, in fact, have a great deal to do with putting in front of you.

- I have answered around 1000 or so questions on this site in order to allow others to understand my personality traits for themselves. I would rather like to know if someone on this site is worth meeting before going through the trouble of meeting them and finding out that I have wasted my otherwise valuable time.

- My profile CLEARLY states that if you've answered a few dozen of those questions or more (which I cannot know as your answers are private) and you are at or above the 35% 'enemy' level, then you likely exhibit the intellect of a somewhat retarded bar stool. As stated in the profile, I am unlikely to be kind about it... as is no doubt starting to dawn upon you.

- I am seldom, if ever, wrong when it comes to these things which brings me to one of two possible conclusions;
1) You have actually mounted a ploy to lure out someone you think might be a 'liberal' despite my extensive military and weapons training.
2) You really are not the sharpest bulb on the chandelier, and it's no surprise you're looking for your next failed relationship.

Why you should respond;

1) I am dead wrong about you.
- I love finding out that I'm wrong. So if you don't actually watch Fox 'News', listen to Rush 'lying-sack-of-fatass' Limbaugh, aren't a Racist, believes Obama is the legitimate POTUS whether you like him or not (I'm torn), know what 'POTUS' stands for or can take a minute to Google it, get why evolution is a reality we've all been blessed with, then that's a big deal and in total contrast with the image I have of you. I'd be humbled to know that I have misjudged you.

2) I am dead right about you.
- But you want to know why it is that the beliefs and misconceptions that you have been programmed with for so very long are making you so angry and why it is that life is so difficult when you've had so much 'faith' all along, and you really, truly feel the need to grow intellectually, spiritually, and culturally.

3) You want to bitch at me.
- That would rock! Hearing back from someone wasting their time to tell me that I've wasted my time being right about them would be well worth my time.

Other than that, please don't bother.
I hope this has been a growth experience for you. It always is for me.

Cheers!

^_^


Ok, really I said it for the entertainment value, but I'm not puzzled that the person is twice divorced.

I know... I'm a bad, bad man. (Sorry CP, couldn't help it!)
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:15 AM
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:16 AM
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3. Holy ROFL crap
That was funny :rofl:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:21 AM
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4. You....
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... BAD! :evilgrin:

Seriously, If you're a 'devout right-wing 'Christian'', and you read http://www.okcupid.com/profile/SilentDoctor">THIS profile, would you really think there's potential?
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:55 AM
Response to Reply #4
52. Are you the guy who dumped his girlfriend because she didn't like Firefly?
:eyes:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #52
56. Yep, that was me.
And about a thousand other people.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:30 AM
Response to Reply #1
12. Hahaaaaa!
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:17 AM
Response to Reply #1
19. *snort*
snerd.
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wysimdnwyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:21 AM
Response to Reply #1
48. MFM
I love your threads with the pictures, but that one comment just topped them all. Immediate imitation DUzy award for you!
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #1
84. oh!
Priceless!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you don't get her number...you can have mine!:D


peace~
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:15 AM
Response to Original message
2. Not at all. I think it's fucking awesome!
:thumbsup:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. 'Preciate it, but this guy would kick my ass;

http://www.27bslash6.com/foggot.html

He's my hero. Would that I could strike with language as sharp as he.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:50 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. OK, making a note to read that later
Sounds like my kinda snark :hi:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:07 AM
Response to Reply #6
9. You have no idea.
You'll laugh like a fat monkey... or your money back!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:28 AM
Response to Reply #9
13. Ah, I thought I recognized this guy's humor
After reading some of the other posts on his site, I found some that I had read quite awhile back and laughed like a fat monkey then, too.

Like this one, I remember this one well:

http://www.27bslash6.com/overdue.html
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 03:48 AM
Response to Reply #5
17. I laughed out loud.
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 04:06 AM by blueamy66
what an awesome writer the "foggot" is.....

on edit: now I'm laughing so hard that I am crying...Thorne is awesome!
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #17
43. He is merciless, and I approve.
Creepy is that the guy is probably latent, which is why it was so easy for Thorne to get under his skin. Of course, I'm not sure he couldn't get under mine. (Which is the 'secret' reason for this thread! Shhhhh!)

S'ok, I'm not 'smart' or anything.


:evilgrin:
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:53 AM
Response to Reply #43
51. I share the website info with a Brit friend of mine...
he was laughing/crying as well!!!!
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #5
35. THAT is so damn funny and clever!!!
( hitting forward button, I am)
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #5
36. "Missing Missy" is one of the funniest things I have ever read.
Thanks for reminding me about this blog, I adore this guy too!
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #5
45. I've read that guy's stuff...
he's great. I laughed my ass off...tears rolling down my face and all. Really good stuff.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 02:12 AM
Response to Reply #45
74. Best retort; "Did she eat them?"
That sent me over the edge. Do NOT get on Thorne's bad side.
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7wo7rees Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:59 AM
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7. How well you used the language to box it up! Not too harsh no.

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:06 AM
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8. It was, my dear Doctor...
A simple "Sorry, I don't believe we'd be compatible." would have sufficed...

By all means, write the other for your own amusement, but don't send it...

And, NO, you are not a bad, bad man!

:P
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:19 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. Oh darn!
Look, I know gosh darn well that I'm not one of DU's Angels. Also, well... you are. (Me and the Angels go back a ways... it's a long, torrid story. Their kind and mine usually agree, but rarely 'get along'. You're my favorite, by far.)

I sent it.

:(

Here's the thing; My profile clearly stated who and what I was. If she read it and didn't like it, then why would she even say 'hi'?

It is my belief that people should be burned for forging blindly ahead. If it were more commonplace, then most people would develop more diligence and integrity, and do away with faulty beliefs and bullshit.

But that is perhaps precisely why the Angels and the t'Seth Guardians parted so long ago.

Or were you not aware that Angels work through you so very often?

I'm a good man, just not a 'nice' one. :evilgrin:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:28 AM
Response to Reply #10
11. NOT to worry!
I thought you must have sent it, and I was just snarking at you, lol!

She certainly should have stayed away from you, being the type of person she probably is...

Then again, may be she likes a good challenge!;-)

Angels work through me?

Really?

And, BTW, there's a place for men who aren't nice...;)
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:40 AM
Response to Reply #11
14. Oooo...
I know where that 'place' is... :wicked:

Somewhere between the recliner and the refrigerator, right?

;)

As for 'challenges'; some are simply insurmountable. She'd have to bone up on quantum mechanics just to get in the door. That ain't happening.

You, Otoh... well... you have lots of good stuff to start with. You're already in the living room, sitting on the couch, and sipping an iced tea with lemon. :D
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:48 AM
Response to Reply #11
15. Heh... I'll bet even you know what a 'meta-redundancy is.
I have a funny feeling we'd be a match too.

http://www.okcupid.com/profile/SilentDoctor

(S'ok, Yer Hubby has nothing to worry about. I've a feeling that any guy who won you hasn't much to worry about.)
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suninvited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 03:47 AM
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16. I met my long time boyfriend on a dating site
many years ago. He was very smart (had a Masters in Chemistry), a liberal, an atheist, and a whole list of qualities that made us a perfect match. One of his very best qualities, however, was that he was nice. All the time. To everybody. Even to those of obvious lower intelligence or those with different beliefs than his own.

We got along wonderfully until the day he died of cancer.

I would never have given your profile a second glance. You just don't sound nice. Nice is important when looking for a mate. Who wants to be around an arrogant asshole for any length of time?

I think you were being too harsh. No response at all would have been the best response if you were unable to respond with some degree of kindness. Why would you want to make someone feel bad?

Lastly, it is totally inappropriate to use the R word when describing a person's lack of intellect.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:58 AM
Response to Reply #16
21. I was describing a stool... not a person.

I used to be kind and nice. Very, in fact. It cost me more than you can ever imagine in a hundred lifetimes.

I came to the conclusion, one I should have before I trusted too many horribly broken humans, that stinging certain people is perhaps a far better thing than allowing them to wreak their idiocy, ignorance, selfishness, and foolishness upon the world.

We NOW live in a world where millions of fucking morons with no understanding of science at all are keeping us from enacting policy to preserve climatic stability.

It's too late now, but perhaps if the people who fucking knew better weren't "nice", and pushed for the proper education rather than appealing to reason, we wouldn't have to watch our children and theirs fucking starve and DIE in the horrible world we're about to hand them all.

You want 'nice'? I don't blame you. But I'm not 'looking for a mate' who wants 'nice'. I'm looking for someone with a mind and intellect who knows that 'nice' is bullshit when dealing with morons. If you wouldn't 'give it a second glance', then I'm damn sure I'd be glad not to have wasted my time on you either.

I'm glad you found someone nice. It sounds like he got along with everyone. I'm sure that made you special, that he was 'nice' to you... and everyone else as well. I'm sorry for your loss. That's something we have more in common than you will ever know.
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suninvited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 07:57 AM
Response to Reply #21
22. You were describing a stool, and comparing it to a person.
It's still an offensive word to someone who has worked with or has a special needs child. You are a man of superior knowledge, surely you could have found a better adjective.

I wouldn't have given your profile a second glance because I prefer to be around men with less baggage than a caravan of camels.

Sorry you have been hurt. I don't know a person on this planet who hasn't been hurt.

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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #22
28. Sorry, just feel I'm losing my mind sometimes.
The 'r' word, if you will, is not a derogatory word for the purpose of insulting the developmentally challenged. It means 'mentally slowed down'. I tend to use it as such.

I also call black people 'black' rather than 'African American'. I laugh when people refer to my British friends as 'African American'.

I'm not always politically correct because I tend to mean what I say and wish to convey exactly what I mean. I stated very clearly that a) If the numbers don't match (they didn't), then I'm not liable to be 'nice', and b) to get back to me if I'm at all wrong.

I hoped to accomplish a 'wake up' with this person because it might actually do her some good to be pinned down on some of her traits. Worst case; she gets angry/sad/whatever, best; she grows.

As for 'baggage', I have none. What I have is a filter made of betrayal, disappointment, foolishly lowered standards, and loss. Anyone with the unique enough traits may pass through it. After that, it's a new world once again.

As for the many people who haven't been hurt (there are certainly many); there are plenty that make up their own hurt. They create their own suffering in order be 'special'. They love drama, and they hurt everyone else for real while seeking it. I've been on the receiving end of other people's drama for too long. Why?

Because I was always too 'nice'.
My filter is not 'nice', nor will it ever be. I'm done suffering selfish, pernicious creatures. I'll be perfectly happy with being alone rather than putting 'nice' on display for someone to feel they can take advantage of it. I'm very glad my profile will not get a 'second glance' by many people. That means the filter works.

I appreciate the feedback. Thanks.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:16 AM
Response to Original message
18. the pain is evident.
good luck and happy fishing.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:37 AM
Response to Reply #18
20. That's part of the point.
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 05:04 AM by The Doctor.
Thanks, but I'm not really 'fishing'. There is nothing 'happy' about knowing that the only true love you had was in another world and a very, very long time ago.

There exists no human being that could fill her place.

Call that what you will, I've tried, and I wish I could blame myself as others might, but I've learned the hard way that I will not find anything like her here.

It's a long, long story... And yes, there is pain the like of which I would wish on no mortal, for no mortal could suffer it. I failed that test a long time ago... yet I still persist, again, and again.

Thank you for your comment.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 08:00 AM
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23. A bit too snarky
I think you might want to play up more of that side of you that is nurturing. Your sense of humor is excellent and you are obviously intelligent so really the only part of your profile that seems to need beefing up is that part that cares about others, though you do allude to it in the parts that you state you want a person who wants to change the world and your devotion to your kids.

You're looking for a very particular type of person and I am sure they are out there somewhere. I think if you market yourself with a little less snark and a bit more "soft guy" you just might get a few more hits from the type of person you're really looking for.

As your profile stands you might come off a little too inflexible if you are looking for a human female.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #23
46. Thank you. I mean that most sincerely.
You are very well right.

It's your last sentence that describes the truth.

Like I've said before; I'm not from around here.

Neither is 'she'. It's a long story, and not a happy one. What I saw, what I lost, and what I did... how I became the culmination of something so... abysmal, that I can do what I can. It's all just a strange personal mythology, of course.

To say that "Nothing is real" becomes true when held against all of time. But that's another lesson.

Thank you again. It's more and more apparent there are no 'human females' I could ever be interested in. My one love exists in the timelessness of the Divine and stands as the one proof against the Abyss itself. I've known her, touched her, and failed her.

This is when a normal human like yourself says; "Whoa! WTF?", and then backs away slowly from something that seems creepy and incomprehensible.

Another way to look at it is to say that I have a 'deep and intricate personal mythology'. That would be perfectly acceptable, if not for the parts where it has poured into 'reality' at times while I bade it so.

You're brighter and more perceptive than most, but I'm afraid even you are at the edge of 'wtf' right now. That's ok. It's better there. My 'dating' profile is meant to draw that line.

If you're scary curious, then perhaps we can talk. The rest of the critters are all Crottled Greeps.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 08:09 AM
Response to Original message
24. I would absolutely enjoy writing something like that myself.
But I probably wouldn't send it.

:)
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #24
32. You are a far kinder person than I.
Maybe I'll start working on that. ;)
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 08:15 AM
Response to Original message
25. What did you expect at the Penthouse
dating site?
:D
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #25
29. Do you have any other settings?

Or is 'unoriginal snark' factory-set?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:46 AM
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26. Perhaps I should read the whole thing . . .
But I had to stop when I read, "I speak and write in English, with all of those pesky rules that come with it. I'm not perfect, of course, but I tend to utilize capitalization and punctuation and haven't much regard for those that do not." The sentence should conclude with ". . . for those who do not."

I could not read further as the noise from my grinding teeth ruined my concentration. I'm sure the rest of it is rib-tickling.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #26
39. I know. That would be part of that "I'm not perfect" thing.
You have proven yourself far more arrogant than I. Well done. I'm impressed.

Learning that it's 'all relative' is perhaps one of the reasons we must all lower our respective standards.

Right?

I'm thankful I'm not up to yours. Now refer to the above.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:39 AM
Response to Reply #39
47. It's a gift
You're welcome.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:50 AM
Response to Original message
27. How is it that you're still single?
:shrug:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #27
31. I know!
It's just crazy!

It's as if I set deliberately high standards and hurdles in order to weed out insipid, selfish, pernicious creatures without imagination, ambition, or confidence.

Why, maybe that's it! Perhaps I should start dating right-wing Christian fundamentalists! :sarcasm:

It didn't occur to you that your line has been used in nearly every comedy program written in the last few decades, did it?
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #31
37. I am puzzled by this response.
Your OP header asked if you were too harsh, but you get a wee bit defensive whenever someone appears to answer that question in the affirmative - especially if, God forbid, they used snark to convey their point (which strikes me as ironic, given the litany of snarky condescension you heap upon the unfortunate recipient of your dating site PM). Why bother to ask if you don't want a variety of answers - unless, of course, you just wanted an amen chorus from people at DU who share your ideological beliefs?

You are, of course, perfectly entitled to be as dickish as you want in your responses to people with whom you would clearly not be compatible. However, you should probably not expect everyone to congratulate you for meticulously heaping scorn and derision on another human being.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:11 PM
Response to Reply #37
40. Shame that.

Here's what you missed; the post I responded to was sarcasm. Okay, you get that. I chide. ;)

Wait, here's the other thing you don't get; That I get what you are puzzled by, and that I get the irony, and that I get that you get that I don't 'get' what I actually 'get'.

I get that. Totally.

There is treasure here, and I reap it.

Thank you for your contribution.

Get it?
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 10:25 AM
Response to Reply #40
53. Sure, man.
:smoke:

Have a great day.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #37
41. Oh, also...
Thank you for your characterization of heaping scorn and derision 'meticulously'.

That was lovely, and I'm humbled by your assessment.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 01:59 AM
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61. the thesaurus is a great invention, isn't it?
Edited on Fri Sep-09-11 02:10 AM by TK421
it helps those who post on an anonymous message board to sound more intelligent than they are in real-life conversation...you know, by using certain words to replace more commonly-used ones in a statement to make the one person seem mentally SUPERIOR to the person who may know the meaning of the word at first, but just not ACCUSTOMED to using that particular word in place of a more commonly used one that makes them seem INFERIOR ( isn't the internet fucking fantastic in that respect? )one of the oldest tricks in the book as far as online chatrooms are concerned, and it's been used to death. I'm talking about the old AOL chat-rooms here...talk about out-dated AND predictable, and it continues on right here.

I'm sure the real-life conversation would have a different, um, outcome to be sure...you know, face-to-face. It has been found that when having a conversation with someone face-to-face that their online intelligence seems to have taken some vacation and just doesn't show up for that particular conversation for reasons...unknown! Hey! maybe they didn't bring that handy-dandy thesaurus with them!

Ah yes..it's all so very fascinating to me! and interesting, too! ;-) but not very enlightening, I'm afraid.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:33 AM
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63. My son, you appear to have a great deal of pain in your life.
It could perhaps be resolved by reading some Jack Vance, Mark Twain, Douglas Adams, or Shakespeare... if necessary. They would be most expert in the English language from recent memory.

I thank you a great deal for using such concise, err, normal English for the benefit, good! (good) of a simpleton (Crap! Idiot? Shit!) like myself who cannot construct a sentence without trying to impress the word gods of Katos-3™ with a thesaurus while I am indeed (6 points) without a thesaurus.

You win. I am defeated.

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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:41 AM
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64. I made the mistake of leaving out those who can cross out words and post other things there
oh dear me, why continue?..but I suppose the first step is knowing you are defeated. Good move,sir-madam...

Hell, given some of the other posts here tonight I kind of feel like Bill Hicks with that one drunken person who insists on making an ass of themselves in that audience! He must have enjoyed that a great deal as well, but the rest of the audience actually GOT IT
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:53 AM
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67. this space left intentionally blank
Edited on Fri Sep-09-11 02:57 AM by TK421
all rights reserved
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:44 AM
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65. If I was your son, I would kill myself n/t
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:50 AM
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66. Oh, might I add, with your initial response I seem to have hit a nerve?
hmmmm...
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 03:00 AM
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68. oh, by the way...lots of people here think you're a total asshole
Edited on Fri Sep-09-11 03:30 AM by TK421
I just thought I should just drop you that line and kind of help out a fellow DU'er :pals:

edited to add: they're kind of right!!! just wanted to drop that line, DOCTOR!
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 03:19 AM
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69. Jack Vance, Douglas Adams, Mark Twain, Shakespeare...hmmm, let me think on this..
Edited on Fri Sep-09-11 03:20 AM by TK421
three of which are most commonly quoted on this site or in a DU members sigline there is a quote from one of these gentlemen...hold on a sec.....let me look....seriously@!@ stop, just let me look for one, OH!!! there are actually dozens of them in siglines of DU users! How about that! Talk about astute! Oh, you devil, you!#$ SHIT! I should have been reading DU siglines all this time to learn the truth!! FUCK ME!!! FUCK ME ROYALLY!!!
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 04:20 AM
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70. No,no...I believe you! IT'S ALL RIGHT HERE ON THE INTERNET!
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 04:30 AM
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71. there, DU...you see? more of this cross-out and ( I'm trying to make a point here ) parentheses
it's all so painful!!! I can't even watch!

The Doctor is out!
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 09:58 PM
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72. WOW! Speaking of 'hitting a nerve'!
Edited on Fri Sep-09-11 10:09 PM by The Doctor.
You ok there?

I've had people 'accuse' me of over-utilizing language resources before. To a one, they were generally unread. I'm not. I've read many books. The reason I mentioned Jack Vance is because he's one of the authors that sent me repeatedly to a thesaurus or dictionary... unabridged at that.

I have lots and lots of words (you could even say, a 'plethora' of them), and sometimes I don't even recall the meanings of words that I type as I type them. So I go and look them up. About 99% of the time, the word meant exactly what I thought it did. Every so often, however, it would have a different meaning than I expected, even though it sounded right.

Here's a clever way to tell if someone resorts to a thesaurus to find a word they want to use, or to confirm the meaning and context of a word they have thought to use; Look it up.

That's right, grab a dictionary and have a look. If the word carries a context that enhances the author's meaning in some way, then chances are; they knew the word to begin with.

If, otoh, the word detracts from the context or makes it otherwise nonsensical, then there is a very good chance that you are dealing with a 'word-hunter' who, like those who hunt for sport but not meat, is just trying to make themselves appear more potent than they might actually be.

As for the "Many DUers" that think I'm an 'asshole'. First; they're not entirely wrong, as this is one of the juxtapositional contexts in which the 'perception' of someone being an asshole bears validity in the context of the contention itself.
That's just a fancy way of saying; "To some degree, they're right." The reason? Because I said something they didn't like or understand. Likely, they even found it condescending. The reason they feel the way they do is because I have had the temerity to point out various and egregious flaws in their reasoning or their ability to function above the intellectual level of a squirrel on weapons-grade inhalants. So, naturally, they don't like me much.

Good!

That way I can separate the 'wheat' from the 'chaff'. Then, when I encounter someone who takes exception to my use of language or reason, I can ask them 'why', get to the bottom of it, and either help them realize their own betterment, or take something away for my own. I have absolutely no use for those who consider me an 'asshole' but are not willing to get into the nitty-gritty reasons that they feel that way for the fear that they'd have to confront their own failings.

You're not like that, are you?
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 07:51 AM
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76. dude! you totally harshed his mellow --
and isn't that last question like, yanno, trying to prove a negative? :)
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 02:08 PM
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77. Well... I am kind of an asshole.
Or so I've been told.

Negatives can be proven. Just not usually easily. It's disproving them that's the real bitch;

"Prove that you have never been to New York City." or "Prove that you are not an asshole." are actually possible. In this case, it can be proven, so I guess you are correct.

Now, about disproving invisible unicorns exist...
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:02 PM
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30. What do you have against retarded bar stools?
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:20 PM
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33. Too much in common?
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:17 PM
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42. Not a thing... until they take a swing at me.
In that, there are too many such 'bar stools' around here. Bean there, done that.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 04:29 PM
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58. Yow...
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Tobin S. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 03:04 PM
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34. I'm engaged to someone I met on that site.
I think the ratio of men to women there is 3 to 1 which I hear is pretty close for dating sites. I've seen one that had a 10:1 men to women ratio. I dated 6 women from there, all briefly, over a period of two years before I met my fiance. What I heard from all of them is that many men on the site are just after sex. So it was refreshing to them to run across a guy on there who they were attracted to who was genuinely looking for a real relationship. But I was still rejected by 5 of those 6 and I rejected one.

I read your profile and I think where you have an advantage over many of the other straight males on the site is that you seem to be genuinely looking for a partner in life. You said in your OP that you were on the dating site mainly for fun, but I think you are more serious about finding someone than you let on here. You put quite a bit of work into your profile, by dating web site standards, and I could sense a thread of loneliness running through it. You really want to find someone who gets you and many people probably do not.

I'd tone down the rejection letters if I were you. I know some people on that site share private messages with each other. A bright, attractive, liberal woman may run across one of those from you through the grapevine and decide not to contact you because of it. If you don't think so just look up-thread. There are some bright, liberal women there who were turned off by it. A simple "Sorry, I'm not interested" is good enough when you run across someone you don't like on there.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:57 PM
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38. Gems.
They are so very, very rare.

Intelligent, thoughtful, insightful, and perhaps more than a bit experienced.

I consider myself fairly perceptive, and with more than fair reason. So please understand my full meaning when I say this about you; I'm impressed.

Thing is this; I also believe in a 'superconscious imperative'. Whether we know it or not, we are all adjusting our fate from one given moment to the next and on a level of consciousness we are barely capable of understanding. The fact that I understand it and how it works doesn't help me put my pre-frontal cortex into my actions as much as I might like. I'm convinced that is a good thing. I'm also pretty sure you just followed this entire paragraph.

Well... I told you that you could, so that didn't hurt.

;)

Now if only you were female with a PhD, an understanding of quantum mechanics, an extensive background in combat and/or weapons training,possessing ambition, imagination, and an easy attitude about immediate situations, well... that'd be another thing.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:28 AM
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49. tobin
i am always impressed with you....

i like you seriousness in the post adn i am glad things are working out for you
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:30 PM
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44. Yo, Mike, you catch this yet?
I'm not done with you all by a longshot, guess I'm just curious and stupid, right?

:evilgrin:

This should be easy by now. I've helped enough for crike's sake.

:smoke:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:34 AM
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50. an off note
over time you have allowed me to have a better understanding, in ways. it has come in handy with understanding my own son and his experiences and feelings. having read yesterdays posts and then having son talk to me about his experience, i pulled a lot of what we talked about from your own experience.

and that is knowing so little. but a wealth of info.

i mean this all in a positive way. even in the most painful, or ugliest, there is the higher vibration if one choses.

always wanting the best for you
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 03:51 PM
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57. Huh... very true.

I've chosen to see it that way. But more from the 'crucible' perspective than your very neat way of putting it.

Thanks. :tumbsup:
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 10:49 AM
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54. It was mean - but you know that.
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mysuzuki2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 11:00 AM
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55. actually, I think it may be a bit harsh, as well as being a lot of work to type.
In that situation a simple "no thanks" or not responding at all is generally sufficient for me. But on the other hand, it would certainly get your point across.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:07 PM
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59. You're right. Though I do write fairly fast.

She actually did respond. Much to her credit, she didn't resort to much in the way of insults except for a bit about my being 'anal' about English. (Her response was a proofreader's nightmare)

She said that I was 'wrong' about her, but didn't mention whether she believed in evolution. She said she wasn't a racist, but was no fan of Obama.

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astral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 12:37 AM
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60. You don't meet people by running them through a coffee strainer before you talk to them in person.
You can mail-order a bride that fits your specifications, but you can not know the chemistry that either "is" or "isn't" there between two people unless you bump into it. You can't advertise for it, screen for it, demand the brain is wired just to your specifications.

I am amazed at how varied people's writing abilities are. If I were to base my friendship with someone on how they are with punctuation and sentence structure, I would be missing out on real human beings who can teach me a lot.

What about the possibility someone who believes totally opposite of you can be someone YOU feel attracted to? Attraction is not a decision you make before you meet someone.

I do not, however, feel you were being 'too harsh' at all in what you wrote. You were merely showing the other person exactly what you are made of, and your brutal honesty was probably much more revealing than your profile.

The pattern of evolution does not cancel out nor prove false the existence of God, or the real nature of the human being. We do not yet have the answer to this. (Do we?)
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 02:41 AM
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75. Uhhh... yeah.

Look, I'm not going to tell you that you are wrong, exactly. There is information you seem to have missed, though.

I don't base 'compatibility' on writing ability. That's just a big deal to me because it signifies a lack of enthusiasm to communicate with precision. I've experienced enough by now to know that people who don't put any effort into proper communication are just the sort of people that aren't well equipped to make crucial distinctions. There is a reason wingnuts are, on average, much less capable with language. It indicates less of an inclination towards critical thought.

A person can be smart, intelligent, and educated, but if they can't write or 'use' English properly (thanks REM), that's a sign that there is definitely something missing. So far, I have not found an exception to that rule, and I'm not going to waste my time looking for one.

As for attraction, no... I cannot be attracted to someone who 'believes the opposite of what I do' for two reasons; 1) We will NOT get along if they cannot be dissuaded from the notions that being gay is a 'sin', that 'creationism' is a better explanation than evolution, or that the Earth is larger or more massive than the Sun.
2) If they believe the opposite of what I do and aren't ready to try to learn more, then they are not intellectually developed enough to be in anyway compatible.

I just don't find anyone I look down on and pity "attractive" no matter what they look like.

None of the above is to say I'm perfect. I'm definitely not. But there is a relative scope when it comes to these things, and I know I'm not looking for someone that finds me far too incompatible or out of their league either. There are so many facets to compatibility, but honing in on a few that you know and being strict about it will likely prevent more pain than doing so creates.

I have friends whose English is wretched, but are otherwise great people. I would never date them.

My 'brutal honesty' was meant to convey more about me... waitaminute... you said 'than your profile'? You read it? Huh... you did miss the part about >35%, didn't you? Or perhaps not. Either way, your point is still pretty sound, if inapplicable. Well, the 'brutal honesty' was because someone with a high 'enemy' rating didn't read the profile they were looking at. Perhaps they just didn't comprehend it.

Oh, here's what you missed, btw;

You believe in the unprovable fairy tale that God (the reality of 'whom' I actually do believe in in ways you're not likely to grasp)

If you said, "I'm not interested in homophobic racists", and someone who is a lauded member of StormFront hit on you, do you really believe you could get over their hatred and make it work?
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astral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 01:26 AM
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88. okay then.
I hadn't read your profile, wouldn't know what profile it was where you keep it or anything, I just posted in this thread because after reading your comments and everyone else's, I find it strange how people 'shop' for partners or companions these days, and also how they limit the types of people whose minds they want to be exposed to. I do in fact know some very fascinating people can't write worth a darn. In my reality things are just not like that. I would never enter a dating site and so I really don't fit in on this discussion anyway, and yes, I understand that the extreme opposite beliefs you used as examples are probably hard for most anybody to deal with.

I know many many years ago a fella 'hit' on me or maybe just wanted to come over for coffee or something, and I knew him to be a white supremacist, and I told him I do not associate with people who are like that (I don't remember exactly how iI put it), and I was surprised at his reaction when he seemed surprised that this was a 'dealbreaker' for me. Not that there some big attraction happening between us or anything, but he seemed to think it was quite normal and acceptable to be a white supremicist and he told me that plenty of people were. True story!

So I don't disagree that there are lines people don't cross, and why should we?

I believe in a "God" because of my life experience and not from a church. I care not whether anybody else believes in God or not and it is not my job to 'convert' anybody. I would be hands-off on a dating site to any atheist who thinks believing in God is stupid. This is fine for me, but I do not get it.

I think to a large extent the vast differences that can exist between people can be a source of interest, of mutual learning, and is not something to be shunned or avoided or feared. We may be talking apples and oranges here in debating the matter, though!

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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 01:51 AM
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89. Re-read, re-think.
You just reinforced my point. Was that your intention?

Or, I'll just ask; "Did you date the White Supremacist?"
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astral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 02:18 AM
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90. I was showing you that I didn't totally disagree with you,
but that I do not understand how people screen who they will keep company with, it does not seem natural to me, and that people put up walls to separate themselves from 'all-not-like-them,' for lack of a better way to put it.

Anyways, no, I did not have any more to do with white supremacist, I was barely acquainted with him in the first place, the point was simply that someone like <<THAT>> did not expect to have it be an issue, to him the way he was was normal and acceptable and nothing to hide, and he acted like I was the first person he'd met who reacted that way, I guess.

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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 02:30 AM
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91. Oh, I get it. I get what you've said.
You're right;


"So I don't disagree that there are lines people don't cross, and why should we?"

But then, we'd have to cross some lines to get here;

I think to a large extent the vast differences that can exist between people can be a source of interest, of mutual learning, and is not something to be shunned or avoided or feared. We may be talking apples and oranges here in debating the matter, though!

Could you have learned much from this White Supremacist?

I know, you weren't being specific as to the basis of those differences. I agree that we can learn much from those we disagree with. Which is precisely why I dealt with the lady as I had.

I'd just like to know if you get that.
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astral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 08:56 PM
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97. I hadn't got that...
that you agreed we can learn from people we disagree with. I get that now. I guess a dating site is for a date, not going out for coffee to just meet and see how first impressions are first -- in person.

"Could you have learned much from this White Supremacist?"

Interesting question! I have to admit that by my argument I could have, but at the time, and I was much younger then, I didn't want to associate with him after hearing that. He lived in a place known to be kind of anti-Black, although I mostly saw it by the lack of Black people in the area and had been told the Ku Klux Clan used to be very active in that area. It was all very foreign and weird to me.

Maybe I could have met up with him to have a debate about the matter instead. . .
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 09:10 PM
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99. Stay brilliant.
I loves me some thinkers, and you are certainly one of them.

:toast:
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:22 AM
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62. 'Use' is preferred over 'utilize' by those who use English properly.
HTH HAND.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 02:10 AM
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73. Thanks.
"Use" is fuzzier to me, so it's really a preference. I'd rather they 'read' 'use' rather than 'use' if I'm not sure they can 'read' without a good deal of context.

As you know, 'Utilize' is fairly spot-on in meaning while 'use', though useful, is something I'm used to using usually for more than one, umm... purpose?

Now we can talk about the contrivances of grammar, if you (would) like.

Still, thanks for the point. I do take seriously good input and I do like to use good advice.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 03:40 PM
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78. Every style manual, starting with Strunk & White, agrees with me
Fowler, AP, Chicago, etc all prefer use over utiilize. Utilize is a neologism; it doesn't mean anything more than use does but it sure does sound fancy.

This is not a matter of grammar, but of usage and abuse. Syntax and grammar covers things like your last sentence, which, if I understand your intent correctly, would have been more properly and clearly expressed as, "I do take good input seriously and I do like to use good advice."
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 11:54 PM
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80. That's the thing; 'intent'.
Edited on Sun Sep-11-11 12:04 AM by The Doctor.
You didn't have to strain yourself to get it. Right?

Maybe I've read too many writers that were more about the blossom of language than the stems. Either way, I'm perfectly fine with being 'corrected'. I simply love free information, and, since I haven't read Strunk and White in nearly two decades, most information on this subject seems new to me.

Nonetheless, I've attained an echelon by which I can measure whether one does or does not care about the medium of communication they use. Whether someone is more or less technically proficient with language than I am is not anywhere near as important as whether they care that they are.

I care. It's obvious, I assume, to even scholars like yourself. My professors didn't make a big to do about it, but I only majored in English for a few semesters. The rest of the time, the word 'utilize' was actually useful.

I invite you to point out where or however I might be in error. I may or may not 'use' what I learn from you (depending on my own 'intention'), but I promise that I will always appreciate it. Because I care.

Now, have you had the pleasure of reading Jack Vance?
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:12 AM
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82. Already answered; utilize is an unnecessary neologism.
I must have read Strunk and White over 25 years ago; I am fortunate in having near-eidetic recall.

Another point emphased in that style manual is brevity.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 01:00 AM
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86. It is apparent that you missed something.
Well, it's apparent to me. If you ask, I'll answer. Though it would be nifty to see if you can pick it out. Clue; 'Some people use 'utilize' for a reason.'

If you figure that out, then you'll know I'm guilty of 'failure to compartmentalize' properly.

PS: At the risk of failing the test of 'brevity', I'm really enjoying this. In greatest "I shit you not" sincerity, you are more than welcome to offer points of usage to me at any time and under any circumstances. I will always thank you for it. (Unless I forget, then do please remind me whereafter I certainly will.)

PPS: Have you had the pleasure of reading Jack Vance?
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 01:24 AM
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87. On a separate note;
You have wicked literacy architecture!

Gardner theorized that, upon the triarchic foundation, there was a hierarchy of congnitive constructs. He was basically correct. My theories regard the hybridization of such constructs. I mean, let's face it, we all process shit very differently.

You, if I might humbly observe, possess a very high level of literal (meant literally) architecture. My apex is an 'acoustic/kinetic' hybrid, which is weird, but aren't we all. My eidetic memory is based on visual/acoustic/kinetic potentiation. That means that I can remember the specifics of conversations or events fairly well.

From what you've told me, you have a literary (is that right?) advantage. So, I'm curious... is your cognitive architecture as well delineated as it appears? Either way, it's very interesting. Hell, I'd have questions about heredity and stuff just to inform the field.

Oh, sorry... I'm supposed to ask about other things like how good you were at 'sports' or 'music', but you're more intelligent, so I'm asking outright.

How hybridized do you think you might be... and with what?
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 08:25 PM
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79. Be sure to let us know how this goes. Did you get a response?
And we would just love to hear all about your future love life. :evilgrin:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:13 AM
Response to Reply #79
83. My dear... you SO live up to your screen name.
If I have a 'future love life', it will more than likely be in all the papers.

You'll just have to read about it.

:evilgrin:
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 06:11 PM
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96. Now there you go, underestimating yourself again.
You really have issues, don't you? Poor thing, you don't believe you will ever have a love life! So sad. (See, I can show sympathy.) I don't blame you for refusing to date someone who is so totally opposite of what you are looking for, I would too. Do my dear, you really were not very nice. Yes, yes, I saw that you don't want to be nice, nice is a weakness.

But really, I do want to know if you have any response from this woman. Keep me smiling. Some threads are just more interesting to us voyeurs. And that would entertain me. That is what you are attempting to do, right? :smoke:
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:12 AM
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81. Dating site:
I just spent a very long time replying....all rejection notes....all nice. (I think/hope)
I feel a moral obligation to all who message me.

From a guy with a PhD/Post Doctoral, six years younger than me:

am a professional,well groomed, nice looking and well educated. I am also very stylish and classy. Into well dressed and casual.I have a muscular and fit body, I am a SWM, 5'9" 170lbs. I look much younger than my age. I have a professional type haircut and I can be a bad boy at times. I am relaxed and easy going and like to have fun! I am also very romantic.confident,good looking and a good listener.
I am into travel, dining out, music,theatre, opera,sports, working out,the beach,sportscars, horseabck riding,writing,movies,business,real estate,etc.Send me an email if you are interested and I will forward my photo.


My reply:

Thank you for contacting me...
I see that we are miles apart in distance..
And are on different paths...
I am neither stylish nor classy..as you can see : )
Seeking kindred spirit....

Best wishes in your search....
You have many fine qualities..
And I am flattered....

Wishing you peace, joy and love~

*************************************************************
We were not all that far apart in distance...but I ain't going to that elitist place.
I thought I was being kind...
We all deserve kindness...and as far as education/the written word goes...he had some typos in his profile.

Very sad that you sent it...
I feel that you'd feel better about yourself if you simply ignored.
Maybe....doing this to someone makes you feel better about yourself.
Who am I to judge?

Most do ignore ones not of interest...
Someone once told me that they'd rather be ignored than get something negative in return.
I attempt to be cordial...
Maybe I should ignore.

There is no right answer, but I feel badly for you that you had fun with your reply.

Just motherly thoughts....
For what it's worth: Not a thing.
Some people are worth more than others?
In your life, yes....
Once again....sorry.


peace~

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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:47 AM
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85. Nothing to be sorry about love.
Edited on Sun Sep-11-11 12:49 AM by The Doctor.
Seriously, it's quite alright. What's more; you're not entirely wrong.

First, I'd like to say that I've never sent a message anywhere in the same solar system as the one you received. I much more like to 'key in' on someone's more 'vested' profile points and play with them. I only do that if I'm fairly certain they will grasp what I'm doing. So far, I've made a few positive 'acquaintances' from doing so. If people want to know about me, they can read my profile. If I like what I see, well... see above. If they reach out to me despite the fact I have stated very clearly that they are not compatible, then they reap what they deserve.

If you would be considerate enough, as I'm certain you are, then you would put some real thought into this admittedly pugnacious concept that has been forced upon me;

"Stupid people who believe in bullshit, and ultimately have the power to infect reality with their delusions, should be, at every opportunity, awakened to the fact that they are deficient in some way."

This may not be welcome news to you, but the reason that corporate brainwashing of Americans works is that they are rarely challenged in any way they cannot retreat back into their comfort zone from.

Anytime I have an opportunity of any kind to make one of them face their delusions, I don't pass it up out of 'kindness'.

The vast majority of liberals and progressives are too 'nice'. This thread wasn't about my dating life. The profile on Cupid has no identifiers beyond what I've disclosed here. This thread was a test.

Oh, I really did have such an interaction. I only put it up here because I was curious. I used to be the same way. I used to believe that 'being nice' was the way to make the world work. Just like Jesus. We were right, he and I. But it only worked if everyone were 'nice'. We are up against people that hold the beliefs they do because no one humiliates them like their teachers did so long ago. Now they are told that they are right by big 'news' organizations. It is the perfect brainwashing scenario.

Every single time I encounter someone that, more than likely, leans that way, I'm going to do what the main stream media does not. I'm going to do my BEST to humiliate them as though they were in grade school. Because the worst case scenario is that they will continue to believe what they want to.

But prodding them creates the chance that they will re-think their positions. Especially when they've taken a risk on a dating site with someone they are interested in.

I do what I do for two reasons; 1) It does more good than harm to lay into someone who might otherwise never have re-examined their beliefs. 2) It feels good to do so after seeing how much damage people of blind faith can do to society.

Like I said, you're not wrong.
But would it behoove you to be less 'nice'?

I think it would behoove us all, knowing what we're up against.
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suninvited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 03:02 AM
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92. This thread was a test?
Who were you testing, might I ask?

By the way, after discoursing with you about being nice I remembered once while using a dating site much like the one you are using that I got a message from a possible suitor that simply said "Your cute".

A two word message with 50% of the words misspelled. I simply replied "Your dumb".

I really felt bad about that message.

I do appreciate that you have taken the time to answer all of the responses, both positive and negative, and after re-reading your profile I have decided that I was wrong; I would have given your profile a second glance. I think my original assessment was made based purely on the scathing letter to a simple minded girl who simply wanted to see if you wanted to go for a ride.

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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 04:14 AM
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93. Ooops... didn't count on someone paying attention.
Yes, to a great extent, it was a test.

Think about it; What really would have been the point of posting such an interaction on DU? I knew damn well what I said was 'harsh'. A few DUer's made that very observation; 'You already know this'.

So what was the point?

I suppose there are two possibilities;

1) That I wanted to gain some sort of praise and adulation for smacking down an apparent dim-wit.

or

2) That I'm trying to get myself some attention from 'liberal chicks'.

Shit, there better be a third possibility, 'cause those are dead in the fucking water.

I knew that it was mean. I knew I was going to be mean to anyone that failed the simple criteria I laid out. And I was. I give the gal credit for writing back... weakly, but doing so nonetheless.

"Liberal" chicks aren't my biggest fans around here. Well, so I've noticed, at least. I've said that people shouldn't be executed for saying they want to have sex with a 13 y/o. Yes, I'm all for punching them in the face once or twice, but even I know better. Apparently, because I have the audacity to point out that 13 y/o girls can physically appear to be any age from 8-20, I'm also a 'creepy pervert'.
I've also had the unmitigated temerity to suggest that men are treated badly in the family court systems of certain states because women are treated like victims and men suspects.

I've had the gall to point to those crevices in society where women are empowered to victimize men. It doesn't matter whether I acknowledge the severe mistreatment of women even today. Hell, I just learned that in my county, there were more than 300 female victims of slave trade just last year. That's fucking horrible!

But damn me to hell for pointing out when women take advantage of men. If I truly believed that 'liberal' women really, truly wanted equality, then perhaps, maybe, on a weird whim, I'd subject a dating profile to this site. As it is, putting up the profile was only an afterthought to illustrate the circumstances.

Now, I know that I'm generalizing. I know good and damn well that there are, and in the majority, a good number of gals on DU who are smart and balanced enough to realize that the world is not black and white, and that men suffer badly at the hands of women in certain corners of society, but really... after the horrible things I've been called... as I've said;

"My standards are set in stone."

So then, what did I really want with all this? Maybe I'm still figuring it out myself, but I've definitely been learning. I suspect I'm not the only one.

You're sharper than I gave you credit. My apologies for whatever you deem required.
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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #93
95. I think I love you....
Just kidding but I certainly am intrigued. :evilgrin: :hide:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 09:37 PM
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100. No, you saw it. That totally sucks.
Ok, I'm kidding too. :evilgrin:

But you did, didn't you?

That means you're probably some kind of borderline ADHD case with tons and tons (literally) of books under your belt. (see what I did there?)

Here's why it sucks; I'm looking for bright lights right now. (read that out loud a few times fast. ;))
What I get is scorn, derision, and idiots. I'm also not looking for a partner. (that's the 'suck' part)

A partner would have to first and foremost grasp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMzh0gTTJI8&feature=related">this.
After that, an understanding of why Castenada's first book was the spoutings of a naïve initiate would be good.
Then, it would be necessary to be terribly physically competitive.

Still and all, I'm serious about the 'bright lights' even if I have no hope of a 'partner'.

Humanity is rapidly becoming a failed experiment. There are only the 'lights' left among them to realize.

Thanks, btw.

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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 09:14 AM
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114. 1 out of 3...Hmmm
Not good odds. But like I said, interested none the less.(at least in learning more) Hope you find your "bright lights". Not so sure about the ADHD part either, but I do love to read,love information and all kinds of knowledge. And this "Firefly" of which you speak, sounds quite interesting, I think I may have seen the movie that came from it, thanks for the recommendation.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:16 AM
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94. "if you are at or above the 35% enemy level ...
then you likely exhibit the intellect of a somewhat retarded bar stool."

I haven't used any dating sites, but if you exhibit open and unprovoked hostility to the women on that site, it occurs to me that you may have to review and update that sentence periodically as people give you feedback.

Many women will hear alarms going off and back away when they find a man who seems to hold so much resentment toward women as a class, and who feel that men are oppressed by women through personal interactions or the justice system. I would expect that to include the best of women who are intelligent and independent.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 09:07 PM
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98. Heh... I love when people unintentionally give up 'incidental' information about themselves.

Like you, for instance.

I have a couple of questions;

1) Why is saying that someone who is above the '35% enemy level' is someone I'm not going to get along with referring only to women? Is it because I've shown an interest in women that such a thing would not apply to a man? Why would you assume such a thing?

2) Where on that site have I discussed anything regarding 'male oppression' or the 'justice system'? Oh, right! I haven't. That there is you squishing stuff together in your own head and then thinking that you're on to something you're not.

3) Is DU a dating site for you? If it is, then you should probably refer back to my 'okcupid' profile before hitting on me again.

Cheers!
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:10 PM
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101. I think you and I would get along great! Wanna go for a ride?
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:26 PM
Response to Reply #101
105. What are you driving?
Do I have to put out?

;)
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 08:51 AM
Response to Reply #105
113. A pickup truck and you'll have to sit in the back seat because...
... a dog that follows me everywhere sits in the passenger seat.
You won't be expected to put out.

So whatta you say? I'll pick you up at 8?
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 05:35 AM
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117. What sort of dog?
I'm good with Shepherds and such. Is there comfy bedding in the back seat? Can I stick my head out the window? Are we going someplace fun?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:12 PM
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102. You, sir, are a dangerous man.
I mean that in the best possible way.
And +1 from me for using Firefly as a qualifier.

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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #102
108. Shhh!
No one really knows that yet!

Does 'Odin under the Tree' mean anything to you?

The beard does definitely need work though.

So... who's prettier, Fanti or Mingo?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 02:26 PM
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116. Only in terms of the Yggdrasil. And Fanti IS prettier, but Mingo has a much cooler name.
And the shhh-ing is pretty pointless. The sort of woman who would appreciate you will always hear the danger bell, they just won't care. :P
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:24 PM
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103. You are certainly upfront about your preferences.
And you're not wasting time weeding out people you would not get along with (the uncurious, the unintelligent, Christians).

You sound like a kick ass guy.

If I was about 25 years younger, I might get along with you just fine.
Also, I have a long-term relationship with my studmuffin physicist that has lasted 17 years.

GOOD LUCK!!
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:56 PM
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111. Dang!
If he wasn't a physicist, then I'd ask what you're doin' later. Hell, I don't even care if you're a guy or a gal, you go for physicists... we'd get along great!

Pfft! What's '25 years' anyway? I'm geological, babe.

Oh, and thanks! ;)
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 01:10 PM
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115. I'm 56. At my age I consider "girl" to be a compliment!!!
I think I'm pretty well preserved. I like the smart ones!!! I don't drink and don't smoke. I do not like alcohol and cigs make me quite ill. I was 39 when I met the love of my life at a Unitarian church full of godless atheists.

He never got to work in R&D, but he came up with the theory that gravity has the same properties as magnetism, as it obeys the inverse square law. He came up with gravitomagnetism, and this was 40 years ago. However, his thesis advisor quashed that and said things like "Black holes do not exist. It's a fad. You cannot write your thesis on that." which crushed his life's ambition.

Then Gravity Probe B came along and proved it a few years ago. With gyros with spheres machined to one molecule of tolerance of sphericity.

In college, I found out that math/physics/engineering/architecture majors were my kind of guys. That was in the 70s. Smart and fun to talk to, and totally flattered that a girl would find them attractive. Also they tend to be musicians -- classical guys. I was in orchestra in high school and college.

A couple of my old boyfriends are professors. I think one in architecture and one in computer science.

One of them worked at NASA and is a statistician. He wrote all the original programming for LANDSAT back in the 1960s. I think that is a major accomplishment in life. He had a pretty coffee table book with the red and green pics from LANDSAT and I had no idea until he told me that he did the original programming.

However I don't want any of my old boyfriends back. They were all ambitious control freaks. Working on Ph.D.s and all that.

This guy I got now is a beatle freak. Changed his major from elec. engr. cuz he got bored and switched to physics because it was more interesting.

The nerds I was interested in also had NO interest in sports. That was a plus for me. My dad told me what the purpose of football is -- to kill the quarterback.

I consider people in fraternities and sororities to be shallow. I did not go to college to drink beer. :D

I have a doctorate, a Juris Doctor, which is a standard law degree. It's 90 semester hours of pure hell and about three times as hard as undergraduate. You write papers in seminars, but mostly you regurgitate facts and principles. I also have a B.A. in biology from a liberal arts college.


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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:26 PM
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104. No, and I would've sent it to her.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:31 PM
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106. To her credit, she sent back.
It was weak. Telling me I was wrong but that her faith in God was real and all.

Said she was going for an associate's degree at Phoenix online.

I told her to explain her understanding of evolution or get back to me when she's finishing her doctorate.

I won't hear back from her. Ever.

If that's what's out there, I'll happy to be alone for all of eternity. I make good company.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:34 PM
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107. I find that I enjoy my own company more than that of others.
IRL, I mean.

I'm just going to focus on my graduate school work and forget about finding someone. If someone comes along, that's great. If not, that'll be great too.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:43 PM
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109. Brilliant.
I've had clients that told me they 'needed' a partner. I said, 'Well, are you everything you feel you could be right now?'

'I'm working on it.'

'Then how do you know you need a partner if you aren't what you intend to be yet?'

In the cases where I've had that exchange, the people wound up with abusive partners because they were trying to 'fill' something in themselves from without.

Never a good idea.

Finish up. I have a feeling you'll wind up with the right one on the journey to yourself.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 10:49 PM
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110. Excellent advice.
And thank you.

:)
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 10:26 AM
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118. Your incorrect use of semicolons is consistent which suggests they're not typos.
Perhaps you should brush up on some of those pesky rules on punctuation. :P
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 05:05 AM
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120. That's part of the "I'm not perfect" thing that I mentioned.
But I do try. People that throw any attempt at correct grammar out the window due to laziness are generally not people I want to know. There have been exceptions though. In her case, it was MUCH more than grammar.

I do also thank you for pointing it out. I really should brush up once; and; a ;while. ;) (see what I did there, with the semicolons?)

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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 10:36 AM
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119. Well...free speech being free speech and all...
You spoke your mind.

Another reason why I would never join an online dating site. I would feel behooved to respond to the messages I received which would then, possibly create a written relationship that I would not desire to have.

Also... there is no man on this earth as perfect as MrG was. I'll just have to be content with that.
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