The South

[Cary]

Okay. The shock and anger from the 2004 election is fading. We aren't going to be able to split the Union, or join with Canada. We have to live with <i>them</i> and we have to work to defeat them.

I don't think the sky is falling in on us. If you look under the sheets they are every bit as "fractured" as are we. Maybe even more so. For goodness sake, check this out:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/red-state-fascism.html

What do we need to do? I am no expert, but it seems we cannot just cede 20 red states, reprenting 164 electoral votes. We need to organize better efforts in at least some of these states, and we need a national message to help the local efforts.

Very general but being that this is a new year and a new day, with some time before anything gets going again, a half baked thought is okay. Their formulaic notion, that government never works, and private enterprise always works, sucks.

How do we bring it down?

[Warpy]

1. One thing I noticed with the electoral maps available at

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/ is that the south really isn't that "red." The south appears to be changing for the better, while the real moron corridor appears to be Texas/Oklahoma/Kansas/Nebraska and on up through the Dakotas.

Once the Democrats stop whoring for corporations and begin to talk the language of working people with no work, they might get somewhere.

Hell, a few of them might even get elected!

[Cary]

2. Okay.

It's entirely possible that they are changing for the better. The South has 90% of the growing areas. These people are coming from somewhere, and chances are they are different than the people who are already there.

So what's the language of working people?

The middle class is being hollowed out. This is atrocious, and the Republicans have no answer to it. Is there a salient message we can deliver on this issue, or any other? How do we do it?

As I said, I am no expert. I'm appealing to the experts here.