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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:50 PM
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GET A LOAD of Dick Morris on Rove -- Truly Breathtaking!
First, make sure you are in an adequately ventilated room. Then read this. Morris must be the Yehudi Menuin of bullshit (this is from THE HILL, "a newspaper for and about the US Congress"):

http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/DickMorris/071405.html

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BUSH SHOULDN'T FIRE KARL ROVE
by Dick Morris

The “gotcha” game is in full swing in Washington as the vultures circle slowly over the White House, hoping for Karl Rove’s scalp.

The ritualized homicide/suicide is well-programmed. A White House insider is accused of doing something, the news media hype the story and, finally, without proof or presumption of innocence, the staffer resigns so as not to become a “distraction” from the president’s agenda.

But maybe this time the cycle can be stopped before it runs its bloody course.

Karl Rove did nothing wrong. The statute he allegedly violated has a number of very specific triggers. The person who reveals the identity of a covert CIA operative has to intend to uncover her identity, know she is a covert operative and know that he is blowing her cover.

The law is designed to stop the likes of Philip Agee, whose 1975 book Inside the Company revealed secret CIA information to sell books. Rove’s actions are a far stretch from those the statute was designed to cover.

Rove did not call Time magazine’s Matt Cooper. Cooper called him. He did not mention Valerie Plame’s name. He may not have even known it. He had no intent to reveal her identity. The context of the conversation was that Rove was trying to disabuse Cooper of the impression that CIA Director George Tenet had been the moving force in choosing former Ambassador Joe Wilson to investigate the nuclear dealings reported to be going on in Niger.

Rove said that it was not Tenet who pushed the appointment but that it likely stemmed from the fact that Wilson’s wife “apparently works” at the CIA.

To call that conversation a deliberate revelation of an agent’s identity designed to blow her cover is a far, far stretch of the statute’s wording and intent.

But just as Rove did not intend to blow Plame’s cover, so the Democrats demanding his head are not very interested in upholding the statute in question. Their motives are totally political. They want revenge against Rove for his successful role in piloting the Bush election and reelection campaigns, and they want to be sure that Bush does not have access to Karl’s advice in the remaining years of his second term.

Washington is a mean town where human sacrifice has been raised to an art form. But Karl Rove does not deserve this fate. He has served loyally and well, resisting enormous opportunities to leave midway and reap a bonanza of income in the private sector. He has shown himself to be a man of uncommon integrity and selflessness in serving this administration and this country. He should not be tossed to the partisan wolves.

Bush, having appointed a special prosecutor and pledged to fire anyone who was responsible for revealing Plame’s identity, cannot just sweep the matter under the rug. But he should allow Rove to clear his name through the normal process of investigation and testimony.

He should keep Karl onboard, stipulating only that he fully answer all questions from a grand jury — as he has done already? — should the prosecutor need him to appear again.

If Rove is indicted or even named as a target, Bush will have to let him go. But that’s not going to happen based on the current fact pattern, and Bush should not let himself be pushed ahead of the process by firing Rove.

Indeed, there is some question that the reporters who took Rove’s lead, looked up Plame’s name and published it may themselves be more likely to have violated the statute than is Rove himself. Whoever took the information Rove provided and outed Plame was, in fact, deliberately outing a CIA operative and may be a better fit for the statute’s intent than Karl Rove.

Bush should not fire Rove. He should stick by him until or unless the criminal investigation makes it evident that he may have violated the statute. Otherwise, he should stay on the job.

Morris is the author of Rewriting History, a rebuttal of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) memoir, Living History.

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:52 PM
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1. Gee Mrs. Lincoln outside of the little problem, didya like the play?
<Karl Rove did nothing wrong.>

Go suck some toes!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:52 PM
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2. You mean Dick "I suck toes because I'm a repressed gay man" Morris?
I've seen fresh dog feces that I like better than him.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 07:11 AM
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8. what's all this with the focus on Morris's SEXUALITY???
I can't think of a more fruitless angle on him than that.
Here is an example where the man's principles are the whole issue, including his principles as a journalist -- Foucault was QUITE kinky, by reputation, but his writings at least seem sincere. The two things really aren't relevant.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 06:04 PM
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11. Anyone who supports the Bush administration...
...supports some of the most anti-GLBT policy and thinking in the world. It's difficult enough to understand why any openly gay individual would do so but closeted gays (which I suspect Morris is) are hypocrites of the first order. And I believe their sexuality is a legitimate topic.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:28 PM
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12. but attacks on "closeted" gays often sound and are antigay
It is one thing to attack someone because they support the Bush Administration, which is antigay. Fine. Then some people are very clear that they are NOT antigay, but mostly the attacks are left carefully ambiguous, with people's attacks at least interpretable as attacking Morris for being gay.

It is a dangerous game, fostering antigay rhetoric in a wide forum where many people feel that they can be progressive AND bash 'queers' -- could you imagine similar attacks, not clearly attacking, say Thomas or Rice or Powell as sellouts, based on race BEING TOLERATED. And they shouldn't be either.

I gather that you are being upfront about your sexuality and that your own sense of yourself is OK. I respect that -- but looking up and down the scroll, I get a sense that antigay rhetoric is hardly disguised. I can remember in leftist Berkeley, hearing an opponent of the dominant Left coalition BCA, years ago but recent enough to be relevant, saying to 'vote for the straight Democratic ticket not the Rainbow Democratic ticket'. Now if someone made references like that on other categories' bases, even in the most hard line rightwing areas of the country, they would stand the likelihood of being called on it -- and this woman was representing a range of what I call "red-headed league" type progressives who OFTEN use political correctness when it suits their purposes.

I am very much on the lookout for what I call "fashionable bigotry", like antiSemitism and antigay politics (often also antiArab and antiAsian prejudice too) are widely tolerated, even on the Left. When you don't draw a sharp line, it seems tolerable -- and a BROAD RANGE of activists engage in antigay rhetoric here at this site.
It is a deep rooted problem, hardly foreign to progressives generally.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:08 AM
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13. My life has been profoundly impacted by...
...the lies and deceptions and the pain of the closet. I'm anything but anti-gay. Nor do I speak out of bigotry--fashionable or otherwise. If you're on the lookout, as you say, don't be too quick to judge the words and actions of others.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:10 AM
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14. you didn't strike me as fitting the pattern of that, but some did
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:54 PM
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3. If it's possible
Dick "The Dick" Morris is a bigger scumbag than Turdballs, Shitblossom, whatever the hell his pudgy white ass is called. Wonder what he'll be called in prison?


Keith’s Barbeque Central
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 08:19 PM
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7. Bitch.
That's my hope, anyway.
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Tamarin Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:56 PM
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4. Did Karl Rove ask George Tenet if he sent Wilson?
Something about the conversation with Cooper does not ring true. Rove didn't know who Valerie Plame was but he was certain she had something to do with sending Wilson to Niger?
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Son of California Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:59 PM
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5. DICK MORRIS IS A SNOTTY LITTLE BITCH
Maybe he would be a little less bitchy if he would just come out of the closet and deal with his homosexuality openly. Is THAT why he hates the liberals? because we are chummy with the gay community?
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dalaigh lllama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:33 PM
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6. Rove -- a man of uncommon integrity
Well, let's do a little Rovian twisting here:

uncommon = rare = freeper misspelling of "rear" = ass

integrity = whole = freeper misspelling of "hole"

therefore, logically, Rove is an asshole.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:53 AM
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10. His integrity is quite rare -- one could say it is an unicum
Some people try to see if they can only tell one lie, others try to keep truth down to a rarity. For the latter, integrity is uncommon; they are persons of "uncommon integrity"
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 08:27 AM
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9. Go suck someone's toe Dick
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