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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:54 PM
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‘Abort Supreme pick’


Last Thursday, the day following President Bush’s pick of his Supreme Court nominee, Judge John G. Roberts, NARAL Pro-Choice New York held a rally in Union Square that drew hundreds of protesters concerned about Roberts’s stance on abortion and Roe v. Wade. Among politicians who spoke were Assemblymembers Deborah Glick, Richard Gottfried and Scott Stringer, State Senator Liz Krueger and City Councilmembers Margarita Lopez and Chris Quinn. Even if Roe v. Wade were overturned, the states have the ultimate decision on whether abortion is legal, and New York State is pro-abortion.

http://www.thevillager.com/villager_117/abortsupremepick.html
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:02 PM
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1. I hate the way people continually
bring up that if Roe v. Wade were overturned the decision would go to the state.

While this may be ok for state's where it is clear that the majority supports keeping abortion legal, what about the state's where it would not be so supported?

I don't like this. I don't think it is ok, for it to go to the state. Too many women live in state's that could put their health, well being and personal sexual decisions and health at risk.

Sorry, I'm just not ok with this...

p.s. Nice pic of the protest!:)
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:11 PM
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2. Second problem
New York State does not have Parental Notification Law. New York State does not have a 24 hour waiting period. So what is congress doing? Leaving that up to the individual state to pass? NO They are are trying to pass FEDERAL laws which would supersede state laws.

If Roe is overturned, you an bet Congress will try to pass FEDERAL laws which in some way would ban it, because the Right to Lifers will NOT be satisfied with simply overturn Roe, leaving it to individual states, and having women, who can afford to do so, going from an anti abortion state to a legal abortion state.

They want to see it banned THROUGHOUT the states, and that includes, birth control pills too, which they consider a chemical abortion.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:24 PM
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3. Absolutely! Excellent points!
It's usually only right wingers'that I've seen defer it to the 'states' anyway. As if this were a way to some how make it seem 'ok.' Also, those that just aren't capable of seeing all the repercussions of it going to the individual state's--reasons like you just stated, HockeyMom.

When will the insanity end?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:26 AM
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4. The Republicans let the states do as they choose
with issues the Republicans don't care much about. However when it comes to things they do care about suddenly they start talking Federal laws and Constitutional Amendments. That is why things like the possibility of Roe v. Wade being overturned are so dangerous.
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:41 AM
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5. If Roe is overturned, state "fetal protection" laws could...
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 08:44 AM by ehrnst
render abortion murder.

Pre-Roe, abortion was not classified as murder, but anti's are attemping to use fetal personhood laws to undermine it. That's what worries me.

Roe is the only thing preventing most "fetal protection" laws from categorizing abortion as murder.

And the "Unborn Victims of Violence Act" is federal.

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:46 PM
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6. It's really sad to me that we have these sort of fears in 2005...
Aren't these the things that women worried about and fought for PRIOR to Roe v. Wade?

Who would have thought that one boy, and one administration could take us back so far? Could initiate so much harm for women nationwide?

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