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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 11:43 AM
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Kudos for Cindy: Federal intimidation quietly continues in NY State
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On March 17, 2003, just hours before "Shock and Awe" the four went into the Lansing, NY military recruiting center and carefully poured a small amount of their own blood in the vestibule. They went to the recruiting center with the knowledge that because the United Nations had not approved the invasion of Iraq, the invasion was illegal and would constitute crimes of war and crimes against humanity. They knew that under the Nuremberg Principles of international law, individuals have international rights and duties to prevent crimes against humanity which transcend the national obligations of obedience imposed by the individual state. They were also compelled to act by their spiritual beliefs and by their consciences.

The St. Patrick Four were tried in state court in April, 2003. They convinced nine (out of twelve) jurors that their actions were justified under domestic and international law. The trial ended in a hung jury.

In February, 2005 the federal government stepped in and chose to prosecute them under federal law. They are now charged with federal conspiracy "by force, intimidation, and threat" to impede an officer of the United States - a felony charge that carries punishment of up to six years in prison and a $250,000 fine. They are also charged with criminal damage to property and two counts of trespass, charges punishable by up to an additional 2 years in prison. Their trial will begin September 19th in Binghamton, NY.
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St. Patrick's Four

Feds to citizens: Keep quiet and get back in line.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 11:48 AM
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1. Wow, thanks gecko.
I hadn't even heard of this.

I signed the support form.
FSC
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:14 PM
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2. You're welcome. Wish it did not have to be. nt
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:18 PM
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3. Thanks.
I hate this administration.
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:30 PM
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4. signed in support
what about the UN serving up some legal help?
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il_lilac Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:35 PM
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5. signed
they can not silence us.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 01:02 PM
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6. How was it non-violent?
what vestibule are they talking about? what is a vestibule?
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 02:46 PM
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7. The vestibule in question, is at the entry to the recruiting station. By
non-violent, I assume they mean that there was no violence aside from the means used to obtain their own blood. I do not know the details of that but you can probably find out if you contact them.

This is a statement with more detail regarding the actions of the St Patrick's Four.
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