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lxlxlxl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:13 AM
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I'm waiting to hear about organized protests in washington for our point of view.
So...where is everyone? Why are bussed in crazies capturing the countries attention when they are such a tiny majority?

I am out of the loop, but would love to find out if there are any organized marches planned on washington. I'm assuming some news would show up on DU.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:17 AM
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1. The anti anything is always more vocal than the people
in the pro column. Doesn't matter what the subject is.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:38 AM
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2. Sure, anti war marches are twice the size of peace marches. Right.
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Bruxley Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 12:28 AM
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12. The war is still going..........
President Obama isn't stopping any of it. It's been almost a year..............he just made up his mind about the 30,000ish more troops to Afganistan.........they're going.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:44 AM
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3. The Cult of Obama forbids dissent
You are not permitted to stray from the party line, citizen! All hail Dear Leader!



(Pay no attention to the investment banker behind the curtain)
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 02:18 PM
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9. I think the poster means anti-TEABAGGER rallies for healthcare. Piss on your other comment !
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 02:18 PM by RBInMaine
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:13 AM
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4. Here are a couple of web pages for single payer organizations
although I'm not sure from your post how you define "our point of view".

http://mobilizeforhealthcare.org/action/
and
www.healthcare-NOW.org

At this time they are concentrating on sit-ins in front of private insurers and Congressional opponents of health reform.
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lxlxlxl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:20 AM
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5. thank you
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 04:48 AM
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6. the crazies are getting attention because we aren't out there
We need to get out from behind our computer screens.
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lxlxlxl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 09:15 AM
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8. agree...the anti-iraq marches were organized with little capital so i dont understand
i know the same groups arent organizing now, but our lack of presence is a little strange. i think we can tip the scales pretty quickly if we represented in the same numbers. i dont know where to start.
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Bruxley Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 12:31 AM
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13. Good luck
Good luck finding people in mass to support what's being offered. What's your favorite part? ............. See what I mean? Your going to have to give that some thought huh. Me too.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:35 AM
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7. Where's our gazillion man march? Have people just given up?
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 02:19 PM
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10. Here is contact info. for Healthcare For America Now. I have called and urged a rally.
Health Care for America Now
1825 K Street NW
Suite 400
Washington, DC 20006

Main number: (202) 454-6200

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Bruxley Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 12:24 AM
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11. Re-evaluating assumptions
The most obvious reason is that they MIGHT not be crazies. I went to a rally and found HUGE numbers of Democrats there. I though a Democrat would be summarrily executed or piked and burned but Democrats are there in good numbers. They aren't advertising it because they thinkk they would get the same treatment I was expecting but you should attend one, Dems are there!!

And let's be honest, the stuff being proposed as healthcare reform right now isn't exactly exciting. This fresh one that passed starts taxing NOW and doesn't deliver services until 2013. And makes this an IRS thing. I don't trust the IRS under ANY administration.

The explaination to the lack of motivation would probably require a re-evaluation of some assumptions and blind enthusiasm.
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2tr4nqued Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:27 PM
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14. Have a protest where you live.
All you need is one person with a sign to remind people we are at war. So, instead of waiting for someone to organize something in Washington, just go to a busy intersection in your town with your thoughts about the war written on a sign. If more people did that, it would be more effective than a lot of people going to DC. Those protests never get media coverage, so no one knows about it. But if you are on the corner in your town, the people in your town will see you. If everyone who is strongly opposed to the US wars would do that in their own towns, way more people would be affected than with one single protest in DC.

So, write a sign, and go out and protest. And when the right-wingers yell at you, stay an extra 30 minutes more than you planned. Whatever you do, don't leave because they make fun of you, because they will. Because they want you to leave. Someone with a sign is a threat to the otherwise unanimous SILENCE about the war.

So be the one voice that the people in your town can see against the war. All you need is a peace sign on posterboard. Everyone will know what you're saying.
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Tomover Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:42 PM
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19. Protesting locally
You make a good point about protesting in our own home towns. Do you think part of the reason folk go to D.C. is that we won't be seen by people that know us? Perhaps that's a bit cynical.

Also, we can do both , protest in DC and do so in our home towns or cities closer to home. I am convinced that local action is required because it's something we can maintain on a regular basis and it involves building relationships with the people around us---even, in some awkward way, those who oppose our stances. Having said that though, national action is also useful.

I am a reporter for the Columbus Free Press and WCRS-Columbus, a Pacifica Network Affiliate. Feel free to contact me at thomasover@gmail.com if you have more to say. I am working on telling people about the upcoming US Social Forum--it's in Detroit from June 22 thru the 26th.

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2tr4nqued Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:27 PM
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15. Have a protest where you live.
All you need is one person with a sign to remind people we are at war. So, instead of waiting for someone to organize something in Washington, just go to a busy intersection in your town with your thoughts about the war written on a sign. If more people did that, it would be more effective than a lot of people going to DC. Those protests never get media coverage, so no one knows about it. But if you are on the corner in your town, the people in your town will see you. If everyone who is strongly opposed to the US wars would do that in their own towns, way more people would be affected than with one single protest in DC.

So, write a sign, and go out and protest. And when the right-wingers yell at you, stay an extra 30 minutes more than you planned. Whatever you do, don't leave because they make fun of you, because they will. Because they want you to leave. Someone with a sign is a threat to the otherwise unanimous SILENCE about the war.

So be the one voice that the people in your town can see against the war. All you need is a peace sign on posterboard. Everyone will know what you're saying.
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BaneMaler Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 05:44 PM
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16. War?
I'll march against war.
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2tr4nqued Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 11:47 PM
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17. Some emergency protests in response to Obama's troop buildup
are listed below:

http://www.worldcantwait.net/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start

San Francisco
World Can't Wait is joining with other anti-war forces including the local chapters of the A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition, Code Pink and others to mobilize

On the SAME WEEKDAY that Obama announces the escalation: 5:00 PM at Fifth & Market (Powell St. BART): San Francisco street protest including die-ins In the East Bay, feeder rallies and a BART march: 3:30 PM Rally: Marines Recruiting Station, 64 Shattuck Square, Berkeley 4:00 PM Rally: downtown Berkeley BART station then march by BART to arrive 5:00 PM at Fifth & Market in SF NOTE: If the news breaks on a weekend, these protests will happen the following MONDAY

The day of the announcement, the World Can't Wait SF office <(415) 864-5153> will have a recorded message confirming the protest times and locations.

Send us info on other campus and community protests that we can also publicize.

Chicago
The Chicago Chapter of World Can't Wait is joining with other groups to build an emergency protest at 5 pm on the day Obama announces his plans to surge the war in Afghanistan. This war was wrong and immoral when Bush was president, and it's wrong now! If the announcement is made after 5 pm, we will be at Federal Plaza (Dearborn & Adams) at 5 pm the next day, and a protest will be held there the next Saturday for those who can't come on a weekday. Details here. Plan to join this action, forward this email, spread the word on Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, and bring friends and co-workers with you!

We aren't waiting in the meantime either. We will be at State Street & Randolph, Chicago (noon to 2 pm) on “Black Friday,” the day after Thanksgiving (Nov 27), protesting ongoing wars and occupation and building for the emergency protest of Obama's “surge” in Afghanistan, whenever it is announced. We plan to be doing street theater so join us! The crowds are large that day and very diverse, coming from the suburbs as well as the city, so it's an important opportunity to build for the upcoming protest and mobilize new people, including young people who are out of school that day.

Join Us This Sunday, Nov. 15, 1:30 - 3:30, N. Michigan Ave. at Adams

We don't want to sit passively waiting for what seems inevitable - Obama's announcement of more troops being sent to Afghanistan, with all that means for more death and destruction. Opposition needs to be mobilized now! So we will participate in the Sunday protest in front of the Art Institute (on North Michigan Ave across from Adams St) between 1:30 pm and 3:30 pm this coming Sunday, building for the emergency response to Obama's pending “surge” announcement. The weather should be fairly good, which means more people in the streets, so we'll be distributing our national flyer with information on the local protest. Please join us and bring your own signs/ideas!

New York
Sunday, 11-15, 1-5pm. Washington Square Park, Hauley Plaza. World Can't Wait and Military Families Speak Out will display the American Friends Service Committee “Eyes Wide Open” exhibit of military boots and civilian shoes. Photo and interview opportunity with military families and veterans.

Monday, 11-16, 5:30-8:30pm. Father Duffy Park, 47th & Broadway (just north of Times Square). Press conference followed by candle light vigil, in addition to the “Eyes Wide Open” exhibit.

Greensboro North Carolina
4:30- 6:00 pm, corner of Elm and Market on the day after Obama makes the announcement

Connecticut
The Obama Administration is expected to soon announce their decision to send some tens of thousands of additional U.S. troops to Afghanistan. We need to demonstrate the popular opposition to the war in Afghanistan in as many towns and with as large a number of protesters as possible when this happens. Join us at the federal buildings in Hartford and New Haven, CT from 4:30 to 6:00 p.m. the day after.

Called by*: Chris Gauvreau and Stan Heller, CT United for Peace CT Students Against War Middle East Crisis Committee West Hartford Citizens for Peace and Justice Northeast Connecticut Coalition for Peace and Justice Citizens for Global Solutions/United Nations Association Connecticut Peace Coalition/New Haven CT ANSWER Coalition International Socialist Organization Socialist Action

*List in formation

Seattle
The Day After Obama announces his plan for war escalation in Afghanistan: 4:00 pm 4th & Pine, Westlake, Seattle seattle@worldcantwait.org
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 07:03 AM
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18. You are waiting......
What exactly are you waiting for? Until we get so boiling mad and get off our duffs and PROTEST, day after day Nothing is going to change.

The tea-baggers are a corporate tool. They think they are so grass roots, they are being manipulated to do the bidding of the corporations. Nothing but the same crap that Raygun, bush, Clinton, Wall Street and GE continue to feed us will ever come out of them.

So, the answer is a real grass movement. An anti-corporation, anti-banksters, anti-Wall Street movement. The only remaining path to change is huge PROTESTS across the country, day after day, after day.

If we liberals and progressives were smart, we would start planning now for a continual protest from spring through summer. A protest like in Iran, never ending. A protest that keeps bubbling up, again and again and again.

And if you are too busy, overworked, unable to get to a protest, you should be able to sponsor someone. Look at the numbers of unemployed. Look at the 50+ people who have given up finding decent employment. Look at the college kids who are lucky to get waiter and waitress jobs. We could use them. We could sponsor them to go to the protests. They have the time and we have the money. We could organize so that we have one huge kick off, get at least a million. Then for 7 days have a 100,000 people there every day. Then after that have 20,000 there every week. People who can't come could sponsor someone. That someone would take pictures, wear the names of the people they are sponsoring. Send or post the pictures on the internet, at a designated site.

If we liberals were smart, we could do this. We could organize now for an explosion of protests come spring. If we were only angry enough, fed up enough with the constant welfare for corporations. If only we were capable of this.....
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Tomover Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:03 PM
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20. Protest locally, not only nationally
Did you read comment # 14 about doing protests in our own home
towns, without always having to go or send people (as you
suggest) to DC ? With the approach presented in comment #14,
we don't even have to wait for others to join us to start. We
can be a one-person protest. That would be a start. That would
be taking initiative. 

Also, if a person is not comfortable with protesting against
the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, for whatever reason, he or
she could protest about some other issue, be it health care
reform, promoting renewable energy, promoting local organic
farming instead of factory farming, and so on.

My hunch is that such protests are useful,  not only in terms
of getting people to join our cause, but its useful also in
terms of making it more likely that more people will think
earnestly about the issue, regardless of whether they agree
with me or us. I am not necessarily interested in whether they
agree with me. 

I am a reporter for the Columbus Free Press and WCRS Columbus.
So feel free to contact me at thomasover@gmail.com
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gimama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 09:50 PM
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21. PEACE actions to share
PEACE activists are heading to DC, NOW, to camp out on the Mall, & rally/march, on March 20th, hell's anniversary..

info:
www.march20.org
www.answercoalition.org
www.afterdowningstreet.org
www.PEACEoftheaction.org
&
www.indiegogo.com/bush
Please share widely!
PEACE,now~===]
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