Pranks afoot in Lieberman camp

[Freddie Stubbs]

Sen. Joe Lieberman’s staff gave new meaning to “shoe leather” campaigns Wednesday when aides delivered seven flip-flop sandals to Wesley Clark’s S.C. campaign headquarters.

The pieces of footwear, made in China, represent what Lieberman campaign members say are the “seven different positions Wes Clark has taken on the Iraq war,” according to a news release from the Lieberman campaign. By most accounts, it is the first prank of the campaign in South Carolina.

The Clark campaign was unsure how to divvy up the Lieberman largesse.

“We’re flattered by the attention, and we expect politicians to play political games, but unfortunately seven shoes is not enough to cover the feet of our 50 full-time staffers in the state of South Carolina,” Clark spokeswoman Meighan Stone said.

more: http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/politics/7714010.htm

[trumad]

1. Ha Ha

Let's deliver dead American Soldiers to Liebermans headquarters......

[KittyWampus]

5. Oh. My. God. You Really Just Said That !

:wow:

[Forkboy]

36. Excellent answer trumad

fuckin a I like your thinking!

[Kukla]

39. I think that was totally uncalled for

It's a shocking statement. I really don't understand how a Democrat could say such a thing.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

2. oh that Joe Lieberman

such a prankster. Wes Clark should send Joe back a bottle of centrum silver and some diapers.

[Bucky]

40. No, the Clark campaign's response should be

to point out that Lieberman was buying products made by cheap slave labor in China. Dammit, only buy American flip flops!

[PATRICK]

3. Siphon all the gas

out of the joemobiles.

Or has that been done?

[jburton]

17. Do they need cars?

They aren't going anywhere.

[Hep]

4. Should Liebarman be proud?

I'd rather a candidate change his mind over a tough, complex issue than make the wrong decision and stick with it.

Remember, Jesse Helms rarely flip flopped, and Hitler NEVER did. It's not whether or not you change your mind, it's whether or not you land on the right side of the issue, and it's whether or not you can admit being wrong.

I don't hold this against Clark.

[Hoosier Democrat]

6. Thoughts on Zany Joe Lieberman

Senator Lieberman, we thee implore
Please go away and whine no more.

Or if not whining proves too great,
Just go away at any rate!!!!!

[Toucano]

35. Love it! n/t

[Kukla]

37. I really don't think that's how democrats should conduct themselves

We are all in this race together. Joe Lieberman is a fine Democrat with a proven record.

I may have to call on some friends affiliated with his campaign to come to this blog and set a few things straight.

[KittyWampus]

7. Joe, The FlipFlop Was Invented By An Anonymous Journalist

and the ungrateful loser in your campaign named Swett.

[returnable]

8. Shoot...

...Joe didn't even buy American :hi:

"The pieces of footwear, made in China..."

[lurk_no_more]

9. Sounds like the Clark team

was overwrought with guilt, at not being able to divy up 7 flip-flops.

Joe is such a rebel.


And then there were none!
” JAFO”

[mmonk]

10. Good response

from Stone.

[edzontar]

11. Say what you will, Joe has been consistent...

On the war and on other issues.

I don't like his war position....or Kerry's or Gephardt's either....but I'll take a genuine Democrat with a solid record on policy over a Trojan Horse, empty uniform stealth-candiate like Clark any day.

[mmonk]

12. So as long as someone is a democrat

for an established time, you would support them even if they agree with the foreign policy premise of bush over a newcomer that opposes bush's foreign policy.

[JVS]

14. Keep your facts straight

A newcomer who flip-flops

[drfemoe]

15. Clark opposes B*** policy

two days out of seven. Not very convincing.

[mmonk]

24. I think I'll start calling you people on this.

Where does Clark agree on bush's foreign policy? Show me. No generalizations, specifics. Does the general think Iraq was necessary? Does the general think attacking nation states is a good policy? Does he think it helps in keeping America safe? Does he think attacking nation states is the way to address terrorism? Does he think America should become a Roman Empire of the 21st century? Show me. If your answer is yes to any of these things, I'll come back to correct you later, I've got work to do. Its time to "out" some of these incorrect charges expressed here. Peace.

[drfemoe]

26. That's okay

I'll come back to correct you later

Thanks for the offer, but I'll pass. :hi:

[mmonk]

13. Do you support Zell Miller?

[edzontar]

28. Zell has endorsed bush. Lieberman wants to run AGAINST Bush.

Look, I am not an enthusiastic supporter of Joe, but he does speak consistently and coherently for the moderate-conservative wing of the party, and he has a RECORD in politics.

I don't know where Clark stands on any number of domestic issues, for example, and its seems to me that some of his supprters are folks who romanticize the military and love a man in uniform.

If you want to go that way, I recommend you support Kerry, who has also flip-flopped on the war, but who has a very solid Liberal record in the Senate, served honorably in Vietnam, and also opposed that criminal war while clark continued to support it, and voted for Republican war criminals like Nixon.

By any reasonable measure, Clark would seem to be our last, least choice.

[Kukla]

16. You are correct

Joe Lieberman is a good guy. He was our vice Presidential candidate in 2000, for goodness sakes!

[Renew Deal]

18. Welcome to DU!!!

:hi:

Now on to business. He was our VP pick because of Gore's terrible judgement.

[Kukla]

19. He was our VP pick because of his strong record

Of the nine candidates for the nomination, Joe Lieberman has the strongest and most consistent Democratic record. Look at the facts.

He has yet to flip flop on a single issue, unlike an ex-military candidate who recently joined the party I could name, which is the entire point of the original article here.

[Renew Deal]

20. He is no stronger than John Kerry.

That's a joke. Look at the American conservative union ratings. Kerry is a 6. Lieberman is a 20. Lieberman has voted with the pukes much more than Kerry. Also this year Edwards was the best in the senate. Lieberman is a mouthpiece for Bush*.

http://acuratings.com/

[Kukla]

25. He is stronger with the average American than Kerry

America is very centrist as a populace. In fact, without the center this party will lose, as evidenced by both 2000 and 2002.

Lieberman offers the strongest stances on real issues that matter to real Americans.

1) His steadfast resolve about his vote on the Iraq War Resolution is resoundingly where the majority of Americans prefer a president be.

2) His strong family oriented values is where a majority of Americans would prefer a president be.

3) His stance on choice is where a majority of Americans would prefer a president be.

4) His support of free trade in order to create real jobs for real Americans is where a majority of Americans would prefer a president be.

There's one real answer if the Democratic Party is to win in 2004. Joe Lieberman offers the best chance of winning.

[Renew Deal]

27. So you admit

this is incorrect:

"Of the nine candidates for the nomination, Joe Lieberman has the strongest and most consistent Democratic record. Look at the facts."

I mean we looked at the facts right.

OK, lets look at real issues for a minute.

1. He stand for a war that was based on a lie. Bush is the liar and Lieberman stands with him. Just cause he was all for it doesn't make it not a lie.

2. So does Clark, Kerry, Edwards...

3. So is every other candidates. Clark has gone as far as to say he wouldn't appoint pro-life judges.

4. So does Clark, Kerry, Edwards.

Actually your last sentence is there is one real answer if the republicans want to win in '04. Joe Lieberman. He has no tangible support. He is getting his clock cleaned by Clark and Dean. He pisses off most of the party, attacks real democratic candidates, and stands with Bush*. When vote for Lieberman when you can just vote for Bush*.

[Kukla]

29. I will never understand one Democrat attacking another

Wesley Clark would also make a fine candidate, however, it is my belief that when the rubber hits the road in Novmember, he will simply not resonate with enough Americans.

Of course, your methods of "supporting" General Clark certainly do not endear me to him.

I haven't decided whom I will be voting for in my primary, but my top four choices are Dick Gephardt, John Edwards, John Kerry and Joe Lieberman. Three of the four are doing very well right now in Iowa and all of them voted in favor of the Iraq War Resolution, a stance I support.

[edzontar]

31. Right--even though he is a bit too conservative for me...

At least I know where he is coming from, and on may issues, he has indeed fought the good fight.

[Kukla]

32. Yep, he was originally my choice

Now I'm torn between him, Kerry, Gephardt, and Edwards. I must admit, though, the fact that he was the vice presidential candidate in 2000 is mighty attractive.

Lieberman has a solid background with his experience in the Senate and probably will get my vote. Kerry has a great Senate background too, and Iowa could certainly sway me over to him. Gephardt has paid his dues in the House, but with the money problems I'm fearful that a loss in Iowa could be very damaging to his campaign. He has no choice but to win if his campaign is to survive. Edwards is young, but if he started pulling away from the pack I would have to back him.

[KittyWampus]

21. I Will No Longer Take Anyone Seriously

who would such terms when referring to Wesley Clark.

It is unsupportable, unnecessary and inflammatory.

[Jerseycoa]

22. Yeah

I've reached the end with this, too. It's just tiresome nonsense repeated endlessly. Just this morning I read in several threads where Clark is anti-choice! :wow: Some people will say anything no matter how far from the truth.

[Rowdyboy]

23. Hell, its all the ammunition they have...

What do you expect them to attack him with-his career has been remarkable, his intelligence undisputed, his heroism proven, his issues main-stream liberal Democrat, and he's highly electable. Of course they're gonna call him a "Republican" and a "trojan horse"-it's all they have to fight with.

[JVS]

33. There is the little issue of war crimes.

[Kukla]

34. What war crimes?

I haven't heard anything about allegations fo war crimes.

[JVS]

38. One of the things Clark supporters love to talk about...

is the Kosovo operation, which Clark commanded as Supreme Commander. One of the favorite facts they like to talk about is the fact that no American soldier died in the operation. But Serbian civilians paid a very heavy price for this bloodless victory, because instead of risking any American troops Clark just heavily bombed the country for 78 days. This massive bombing cost many civilians both Serbian and Albanian to lose their lives.

[edzontar]

30. Listen--I would still support Clark in the general...

I am ABB after the primaries.

But I think it is about time we realised that we may be being hoodwinked here.

I am suspicious of Clark's avoiding all the recent debates.

I am suspicious of Clark's behind the scene Clintons support.

These are valid questions that no one has answered to my satisfaction.