After listening to Democracy Now - I oppose Kerry

[peacetalksforall]

I agree with the guest - secret organizations of power people have no place in a democracy - forget about his Vietnam contributions and saving people -

NO TO KERRY

- especially when two Skull & Bones people would oppose each other - this is not just a college high - this is a lifelong obedience.

NO TO KERRY

What the heck is Ted Kennedy thinking when he promotes him?

[Qutzupalotl]

1. He has a record of exposing criminals

like Bush family connections to BCCI. Since both Bushes were Bonesmen, it doesn't seem to faze him.

[lcordero]

12. the Bushes are still out and about instead of in jail

I want to see crooks in jail and I don't feel that I'm going to get that with Kerry or with a lot of the people running for the Dem nomination.

[Hep]

14. A vote for Kerry is a vote for the same ole same ole.

nothing will have changed, and our party will be screwed.

[blm]

26. Kerry EXPOSED them and there was an Independent Counsel on IranContra.

Almost everything we know about the BFEE is thanks to Kerry and yet he gets blamed for not doing the actual prosecution of the case? Anyone recall that Bush1 had to PARDON a bunch of the thugs to prevent the cases from going forward?

[Valjean]

18. Wow, great link

This is even juicier stuff. Members of Skull & Bones engage in paganism. They worship a goddess called Oloujah. Can you imagine how this will play in the "Red" states????

Can you imagine how Democrats could use this to hammer George W Bush? We can't use this against Bush if Kerry is a member of Skull & Bones?

The interviewed journalist has pointed out that Skull & Bones is actively trying to black list her and destroy her career. Do harmless drinking circles do shit like this? Do harmless drinking groups own their own private island?

No. Evil Genius's own their own private islands ;-)

[molly]

24. That poor obsessed journalist!

"The interviewed journalist has pointed out that Skull & Bones is actively trying to black list her and destroy her career. Do harmless drinking circles do shit like this? Do harmless drinking groups own their own private island? "

Dunno - but little boy frats do.

You are TOO funny!

[Skittles]

2. Clark will kick Kerry's ass

:D

[Rowdyboy]

3. Not college fraternities

That's for sure. Ted's a little more serious than that.

[SunPalmsSurfer04]

20. You Sure

Yeah Ted's serious, about his beer mug. I'm a liberal, Democrat, whatever you wanna call it, but In all honesty is just Ted Kennedy... All he has is a name.

[peacetalksforall]

4. Kerry won't respond to questions about it - just as the Resident won't

Does Kerry think it will just go away?

[sallyseven]

5. It is just too much

about nothing. That was college days. People grow up. Just you wait you will to.

[peacetalksforall]

6. No way...

you can't say it's much ado about nothing - BECAUSE it's all a SECRET.

[Skittles]

10. people grow up?

I beg to differ - have you noticed our "president" lately???

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[Catherine Vincent]

7. I listened also.

I had high hopes for Kerry but this Skull and Bones business scares me. He needs to talk about it. Of course, * never talked about it either. Maybe he'll get a pass like *.

[Valjean]

8. Kerry doesn't fit

With Kerry's public policy, he doesn't seem to fit the mold of a Bonesman. But that can be decieving. This may simply be his "angle" towards getting into power. Kerry had styled himself as another JFK since BEFORE he was a Bonesman. Is it the policy, or the power that the policy can get him that drives Kerry?

In any case, Kerry can redeem himself by renouncing the Bonesman and telling ALL he knows about the group. If he cannot do so because the Bonesman have dirt on Kerry, that means he is unfit to be president since the Bonesman could extort him on virtually ANY issue.

Thats how hierarchical organizations work. They get dirt on you and trade it for power. The more black dirty stuff you do, the higher in the ranks you rise. But you cannot betray the organization because they can literally destroy you. In this respect, the Bonesman are no different from Scientology (another cult).

All Democrats should INSIST that he spill the beans on Skull & Bones for consideration. The more he refuses to answer, the more that means that he is beholden to the power and influence of Skull & Bones.

[barbaraann]

17. You really hit the nail on the head.

We deserve the truth, the whole truth, and nothing less. Period.

[molly]

23. Where did you learn your historical criminology

PhD on Skull and Bones? :silly: WOW - what an analysis! :wtf:

[blm]

27. Then why didn't they stop Kerry from exposing them on BCCI and IranContra?

Kerry RUINED the entire Reagan and Bush LEGACIES and changed history, exposing more government corruption than any other lawmaker.

When are some of you going to GET that?

[foo_bar]

9. it's pure delusion

Not the paranoid LaRouche-ian rants per se, but the notion that the 99.5% of the electorate that doesn't take Risperdal will respond to them. I guess that's the nature of campaigning; you give it your best shot, and Occam's Razor does the rest.

Today, visiting Yale, one sees male students walking hand in hand, lovers, blatantly, on the streets. One does not permit one's boy children to visit certain of the residences on or around that campus. There have been too many incidents to be overlooked. One is reminded of the naked wrestling in the mud which initiates to the Yale Skull and Bones society practice. One thinks of 'Skull and Boneser' William F. Buckley's advocacy of the dangerous, mind-wrecking substance, marijuana, and of Buckley's recent, publicly expressed sympathies for sodomy between male public school teachers and students.

http://www.econcrisis.homestead.com/SFAN_SB_LaRoucheOnSB.html

[FreeperSlayer]

11. ABB!

BUSH OUT!

[judy]

13. I'm kinda like hc...I listened to Democracy Now

this morning, and all that gave me the heebie jeebies. Not because of S&B being secret and all. But it doesn't seem to be a harmless fraternity but a long lasting club where members help each other get to power.
In my pessimistic moments, I even wonder why all the hoopla right now about Kerry who basically has won one of the primaries. (How are caucus votes tallied, by the way?). I always think Dean is hated by Bushco because he mentioned Smirk knowing in advance about 9/11, and that the press is out to make him seem ridiculous, and Kerry "the most presidential".

All that said, I am ABB all the way, while being a Kucinich supporter as long as he is in the race.

[peacetalksforall]

16. I think about the media supporting Leiberman and Kerry all the time....

and trying to make Dean into a Gore. By media I mean the propaganda media mouths who partner with the administration and cabal.

I thought I was neutral about all the candidates except Leiberman - I could never support a pro-Repub mouth.

I'm still not supporting anyone, but now I add Kerry with Leiberman - out.

If the propaganda media likes Leiberman and Kerry, then they are suspect. They will support the administration. The administration has calculated all of it based on a count of their customized weapons for each candidate.

The guest on Democracy Now said that (S&B)

. have no programs that the public benefits from (paraphrased)
. she has been threatened for speaking and writing about the cult

Joe can do no wrong. Kerry is never criticized.

[blm]

28. Where have you been? The media declared Kerry's campaign dead for MONTHS.

It hurt his fundraising. They gave Dean ALL the media oxygen for a year while treating Kerry as a nonentity.

[curse10]

30. what the heck are you talking about?

have you had your tv turned off for the last 6 months? it's been all dean all the damn time. And when they did talk about Kerry it was only about how his campaign was dead in the water.

I'm continuously surprised that Dean supporters actually think they have it soooo bad. Poor Dean! The media pays attention to him! Poor Dean! He has rabid supporters bombarding news outlets, iowans, and senators offices with phone calls! Poor Dean! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Valjean]

19. Just remember Bush's

Just remember Bush Sr's "contributions" to WWII. Remember how the blue bloods covered up him ditching out of a plane instead of saving his crew mates. AND Bush Sr was DECORATED for it.

Could it be that Kerry really DIDN'T do anything heroic in Vietnam. That his Bonesman connections GOT him his Silver Star? No one was there with a video camera so we really have to rely on other people's testimony. We all know how testimony can change once hands are greased (or threatened).

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[molly]

22. LOL!!!

:wtf:

[Octafish]

25. Nice smear. Kerry was shot and still saved a drowning man...

... all the while getting fired on. That's how he earned his Bronze Star. Kerry earned his Silver Star when he turned his boat into fire and took the enemy on. He even shot and killed a man who pointed an RPG at his vessel.

That doesn't make him pro-war, though. Kerry lost six friends in Vietnam, including his best friend. When he got home, he resigned his commission and helped form the Vietnam Veterans Against the War and went a long way to stopping the fighting.

Gee. All that sounds a fuck of lot better than going skiing after dodging the draft, doesen't it?

[Doomsayer13]

29. Okay, that's pretty rediculous

nt

[nightperson]

31. The recent level of discussion

has me wondering: was there ever an anti-Kerry segment on the Jerry Springer Show?