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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 07:48 AM
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Will Pitt meets DK
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/080703A.shtml

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That afternoon, barely able to lift my arms above my head, I was brought down to an organic foods co-op – essentially a vegetarian supermarket with a nice café on the second floor – to hear a quick speech by Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich. He was there when we arrived, and I plowed through the crowd to get a view. Kucinich, I saw, was sporting a sharp new haircut, and was bristling with energy. He addressed the crowd very briefly and answered some questions. The man, I decided, has sand.

As he was headed for the door, someone told him I was there. Came then the shock of my life. Kucinich stopped dead, whirled around, and bulldogged through the crowd to find me. I smiled and reached out to shake his hand. He grabbed it and hauled me in until we were basically bumping chests and nose to nose. He did not give me the standard triple-pump politician handshake, but the triple-grip old-school activist handshake. He said an incredible number of nice things about my work, and about truthout, the very last thing I was expecting to hear. He only had a few seconds before he had to head off to his next speech, but a connection got made in that café that is difficult for me to deny. I am not the swooning type, but I felt after that like I had just come out of the hot sun. There aren’t many politicians who can do that to me.


Interestingly, this is the same reaction to encountering Dennis that I've heard over and over from the people who've been lucky enough to meet up with him.

That night, several activists and I went to hear Kucinich give a more formal address at a public theater.

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Then came Dennis. He reached the podium on the crest of a great ovation, and stood silently until the crowd hushed. And he waited. And he waited. And in that silence he began to sing, softly, “Oh say does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave o’er the land of the free, and the home of the brave?”

Kucinich then slammed the podium and roared, “Courage, America! Courage, America! Courage, America!” before spending the next 20 minutes denouncing the Bush administration, the war, and the direction this nation is moving in some of the most eloquent language I have yet heard. There is not a single Presidential candidate in the field willing to say when Kucinich said on that stage in San Diego, for good or ill. The crowd reacted as if they were coming out of the desert to find a pool of ice-water waiting for them. They drank it up and called for more.

I learned a few things on that road. I learned that a lot more people care about what is happening than the television would have us believe. I learned that just about everyone in the activist communities I met is ready and willing to join ABBA – the Anyone But Bush Association – to put aside their own hard-core preferences when the deal goes down to make sure that George is unemployed in January of 2005. I learned that, despite my sense on occasion that there isn’t anyone out there who feels as I do and is willing to act on it, there is an army of good people across the country doing just that. I learned that George has some tough sledding ahead of him.

I learned that Dennis Kucinich is still polling in the low single digits. The political campaign analyst in me understands this: He has less cash, a few wild ideas, and is less well-known. A lot of people think Dennis has no chance to win, and they well may be right. But I learned that, in the end, there is something profoundly wrong with a country where a man like Kucinich has no chance to win the Oval Office. The point of the exercise, I learned, was to change that.


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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 08:45 AM
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1. I heard him speak last week and he was very moving.
There is something about him. His passion and vision, both of which are saddly lacking in most of our "leaders" these days. I liked him before I heard him, I loved him after. The crowd was on it's feet for most of his speech and we could all feel how much he really cared.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 09:09 AM
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2. The point is "to change that"
As the inestimable Mr. Pitt states so clearly, there is something profoundly wrong with a country where a man like Kucinich has no chance to win the Oval Office.

If this is that country, then Dennis Kucinich is the answer to what's wrong with it.

Dan Brown
Saint Paul, Minnesota
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:19 AM
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4. Dennis is like another Ohioan....John Glenn.
Edited on Thu Aug-07-03 11:23 AM by blm
He may not be the one to step on the moon, but, he took the first flight towards it.

Beautifully written, Will. I felt that same stirring of the heart and soul as a teenager in 1972 as a Kucinich volunteer. He has guided my political self for three decades. Although I am probably just a bit to Dennis's left today. ;))))
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 09:51 AM
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3. Thank you LWolf & thank you Will Pitt!
Thank you for this ...I sure needed this this morning...

.......some of the most eloquent language I have yet heard. There is not a single Presidential candidate in the field willing to say when Kucinich said on that stage in San Diego, for good or ill. The crowd reacted as if they were coming out of the desert to find a pool of ice-water waiting for them. They drank it up and called for more.
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There is something about Dennis....

I would love to have him as the leader...a true leader of the country.....this is what it means to truly take back America...with a man of honesty & integrity and most of all a man with a vision and heart .

Thank you, Will Pitt.

Peace
DR
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 01:14 PM
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5. William Pitt is really great.
We need more great writers like him on our side.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:20 PM
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6. bump
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:47 PM
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7. Kucinich polls in the low digits because
he's got little campaign tact and strategy. Dean was an asterick on most polls at the beginning of this year and is now either in the lead or tied for the lead in most polls. The difference, Dean has a smart strategy that maximizes his appearences and speeches with his limited budget. He intelligently assesses his weaknesses and strengths and makes the appropriate adjustments. And Dean not only lambasts Bush to energize his supporters but he helps his supporters channel their energy into constructive team building exercises, like writing letters to undecided voters in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Dean has figured out how to market progressive plus centrist ideas to mainstream voters. Kucinich has not. Also Dean has a successfull record in Vermont on balancing budgets and promoting social justice wisely. Kucinich does not.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:59 PM
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8. Kucinich has an amazing affect on people who see him
I don't think his campaign lacks tact. He's done a lot in a very short period of time to distinguish himself from a large pack of candidates. At the same time, he's employed by the people of the State of Ohio to conduct the people's business in the US House of Representatives and he hasn't missed a vote this session.

Dean is, essentially, unemployed except for his candidacy.

Dennis has got a great record of standing up for his campaign promise as Mayor of Cleveland not to privatize Muny Light, and his integrity is only reinforced by his undergoing the political "banishment" he withstood by standing up to the banks. The people of Cleveland thank Dennis daily for their lower utility bills.

Dennis also has an amazing record of making principled resistance to Bush's lying march to war with Iraq. He's got a record of resisting Ashcroft's curtailment of our civil liberties.

I don't find anything missing in Dennis's record in comparison to Dean except for the fact that Dean's "chief executive" role was as Governor, Kucinich's was as Mayor.

Kucinich has also had much less time on the campaign trail compared to most of the other candidates. In that comparatively short period of time, he's raised his profile significantly.

Dan Brown
Saint Paul, Minnesota
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 03:16 PM
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10. Dean's record in Vermont is superior to Kucinich's
Dean took a $60-70 million deficit and turned it into a surplus. This year Vermont had a $10.4 million surplus. Dean also won an historic 5 re-election bids.

Kucinich, whether it was his fault or not, saw a city go bankrupt under his watch and he was booted out by a Republican, who eventually became Ohio's junior senator.

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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 04:06 PM
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14. Kucinich was vindicated for his Muny Light stand
He stood on principle, and he kept a campaign promise by not allowing the privatization of Muny Light. As a result, the City of Cleveland later lauded him, and the voters returned him to public office.

Kucinich subsequently beat an incumbent Republican to become an Ohio State Senator, and he then beat an incumbent Republican to become a US Representative.

I will put Kucinich's record of standing up to the banks, and protecting the citizens of Cleveland against predatory privatization against Dean's ability to govern a state with about the same overall population as that in just the general Cleveland, Ohio area alone, anytime.

Dennis Kucinich represents a district with a population of about 600,000 people. He's never missed a vote this session. Dr. Dean used to govern a district with a population of about 600,000. Since he doesn't, anymore, he's got more time to campaign.

As far as I'm concerned, they're both equally situated in terms of ability to represent a certain constituency.

Dan Brown
Saint Paul, Minnesota
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Dear Prudence Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 03:24 PM
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11. Kucinich has an amazing affect on people who see him
Yes he does. I get SO inspired everytime I hear him speak...
I think the problem (and this is so shallow) is that Dennis is not packaged in a way that speaks to many people. I'm not saying that is what I think, it's just a feeling I have. But he would make an excellent President in any other time except in the time that George Bush has created. (another thing is they like married candidates - I think that's what did it in for Jerry Brown '92)

Now, if Dennis does not make the primary, I think he would make ONE HELL OF AN ATTORNEY GENERAL replacement for John Asscroft. I think whoever gets the white house on the Dem side (YES we are going to win) should tap Dennis Kucinich on the shoulders and say welcome aboard true patriot! (he'd make an excellent Secretary of State too!)
I think someone should put that in somebody's ear... if you agree and have the strings or opportunity to pass it on.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 04:03 PM
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12. The difference is that the media promoted everything
Dean said, while refusing to acknowledge what Kucinich had to say. Or the fact that while Dean "talked the antiwar talk" he never "walked the antiwar walk" like DK.

The media focused on Dean because he targeted other Democrats and the Democratic Party, and they LOVE to pile on Dems.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 04:06 PM
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13. Hey, that's cool -
you managed to turn a "praise of Dennis Kucinich" thread into a "bash Dean" thread. You're like the anti-Midas!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 04:14 PM
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16. My reply was to Larkspur's post......
Are you planning to scold everyone equally or just me?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 03:41 PM
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18. We shall see in the end Lark
BTW Carter at this time was at 5% and Clinton at 6%. Good things happen to those who wait.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 03:02 PM
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9. I think I just heard that Pitt will be KPFA (Pacifica) on Friday
Edited on Thu Aug-07-03 03:13 PM by deutsey
Living Room is the show; I live on the East Coast, but I really like KPFA and Living Room a lot, so I listen online. I think I just heard the host say WR Pitt will be on tomorrow.

EDIT: Oh yeah, the time: 3 pm Eastern, 12 Pacific.

www.kpfa.org
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 04:11 PM
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15. damn--thought DK was Donna Karan
oh well

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JackieO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 06:20 AM
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17. wow
:thumbsup:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 03:43 PM
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19. Thank you Wolf, Will, Dennis, and all
I got this on pamphlet thanks to Tiniore :) thanks again, and it was really beautiful. Keep up hope Kucinich supporters, this Kucinich is the stuff dreams and heroes are made of, we can and will prevail.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 04:53 PM
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20. Dennis was great that night and I got to meet William Pitt
We need more great people like these two.
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