Edwards seems like the kind of guy who'd quit the race in favor of Bush

[acerbic]

...just before the election if he gets nominated. This is just a feeling...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=21582

[acerbic]

1. This is a serious question that really needs to be discussed...

What would you all do if Edwards did that?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=21582

[acerbic]

16. Still no answers...

Edwards supporters are so afraid of this important question... they must really be hiding something...

[Abigale Applewhite]

43. Who afraid of an inmpotant question

John Edwards, is the most straight up candidate on the campagne trail. He is squeeky clean, and would never be a traitor to the Democratic Party...people who grew up as Edwards didn are the most loyal democrats...You are flapping in the wind and wasting time on this subject.

[bearfartinthewoods]

54. YOU ARE A WINNER!!!!!

this is the very first post to actually make me consider using the ignore feature.

congratulaions...quite a feat!

[acerbic]

55. The very first? Why exactly?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=108&topic_id=21582&mesg_id=21582

[sandnsea]

2. Psst.... we ignore the bait

try it, you'll like it.

[TSIAS]

3. He wouldn't do that

Just as Dean has committed not to running as an Independent.

[virtualobserver]

4. I almost fell off of my chair laughing.........

hilarious...you certainly know how to restore perspective

[Duder]

5. If Edwards was nominated...

Probably no one would notice he quit.

[acerbic]

6. Why don't any Edwards supporters answer straight and seriously to

...what they would do if Edwards did that? I guess they are so afraid of this dangerous question...

[chimpymustgo]

7. Nobody will seriously answer such a STUPID question.

Good grief.

[acerbic]

8. Nice try, but wrong: they don't answer because the question is DANGEROUS,

BoooOOOOooo!!!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=108&topic_id=21582&mesg_id=21658&page=

[virtualobserver]

9. all questions are dangerous, citizen (n/t)

x

[AP]

11. Here's how you are proving the point I was making in the non-parody

version of this issue. If the question is stupid, nobody feels the need to defend their candidate or personally attack the questioner. What's interesting is that, when the question reveals a serious flaw in the candidate or a serious flaw in the argument some people use to support the candidate, THEN you see the personal attacks and the people who try to parody the questioner.

[acerbic]

14. Preschooler Technique #4: if the target bothers to defend, it "proves"

...the attack true. So, according to your own logic, does this reply of yours mean that the question is indeed valid? :-)

If the question is stupid, nobody feels the need to defend their candidate or personally attack the questioner.

- "Are you a doodiehead? Is your daddy a doodiehead? Yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap..."
- "Oh shut up already!"
- "A-ha! You wouldn't answer if I weren't right!"
:eyes:

(As a side note, I'm not against any of the candidates but only against those who idiotically attack them here, but since DU rules don't allow attacking them, what's there to do but try to make a point... :shrug:)

[AP]

17. Actually, I was commenting on other people's response to your post

I wasn't drawing a conclusion so much from your behavior (which is too transparent). I was drawing a conclusion based on the fact that you can't seem to stir up any response from Edwards defenders. Re-read my post. Savvy?

[acerbic]

10. Empty, meaningless "reply" just to kick the important thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=108&topic_id=21582&mesg_id=21674&page=

[AP]

12. Uh. pot meet kettle. You call this meaningful?

And I don't really care which thread get's kicked. Do you care?

[AP]

13. Uh. pot meet kettle. You call this meaningful?

And I don't really care which thread get's kicked. Do you care?

[acerbic]

15. Has Edwards even once said that he wouldn't do that?

Is there any indication indeed to the contrary? This is really worrying me...

[valphoosier]

18. Are you serious?

To suggest that ANY democrat would quit and back Bush is absolutely ridiculous. John Edwards is a serious candidate who should not even have to answer such outlandish questions.

While Edwards hasn't gained much support in the polls, the more and more I see him, I think he may be one of the few democrats who can beat Bush. He's affable, southern, populist yet not too liberal... he's got many of Clinton's attributes. I'm a Dean guy, myself, but I think Edwards would make a great veep candidate or even a great nominee. At the same time, it would be a shame to lose someone such as Edwards from the Senate.

[acerbic]

19. You can figure it out...

Are you serious?

Read some more, and follow the links...

[valphoosier]

20. I know you're serious...

I was trying to point out my shock at your post, however.

[acerbic]

21. You may continue to display your intelligence and seriousness...

Meanwhile, anyone can do a little search to see how many anti-candidate threads I've started here and as response to what.

[genius]

22. And this is Dean's favorite method of campaigning -lie,lie,lie

Edwards has a tremendous amount of integrity. Unlike a certain candidate, Edwards isn't Bush's pick. He's done a great deal of good for the country, and, as a trial lawyer, he is familiar with the Constitution. He would also pull in a lot of mindless people who vote based on looks. Personally, I think he would have no problem defeating Bush.

However, I disagree with him on a lot of issues and I am supporting another candidate whom I think would make a better President. If Edwards wins the nomination, I will have no problem backing him in the general election.

[acerbic]

23. What's this got to do with Dean, "genius"?

Really, where did you get that? We're talking about Edwards here and somehow Dean pops into your mind. Do you have some kind of obsessed fixation about Dean that you must express your hatred towards him everywhere and always?

[genius]

25. Dean's supporters are running the dirtiest campaign since Nixon's

You should be ashamed of yourselves.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

26. Umm, if this has nothing to do with Dean, why

did you start a thread titled:
"Edwards seems like the kind of guy who'd quit the race in favor of Bush"

and post a link to a thread titled:
" Dean seems like the kind of guy who'd run as an Independent if he doesn't"

it is obvious that this thread was started as a response to the other thread. Now you ask "What's this got to do with Dean"

How stupid do you think the readers of this forum are?

[acerbic]

29. Hmm... I don't know

How stupid do you think the readers of this forum are?

How stupid would it be to accuse me of attacking unfairly while at the same time acknowledging that this is a response to something posted first?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

30. I quote you: This is indeed a totally unfair BS attack and I'm not ashamed

Acerbic: "This is indeed a totally unfair BS attack and I'm not ashamed"
topic_id=21607
mesg_id=22016
time=Sun Aug-17-03 07:34 PM

[acerbic]

31. Wow, you got me there. That's indeed irrefutable proof

...that this thread is at the same time just an unprovoked attack against Edwards AND a response defending another candidate. :eyes:

BTW, what's your position on totally unfair BS attacks: would you like to see them all gone or do you like to see them against candidates that you personally dislike and whine about them only when the target is your favorite candidate?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

35. My position is that people should do what they think is right,

not what they think is wrong.

My position is that the ends do not justify the means.

[Nicholas_J]

56. This is his latest method

Of attacking by skirting the rules...

because you cant directly attack an individual on DU. he has started putting an flame type title in his threads and then linking to a post that the person has started in order to avoid attacking the persin directly in the thread.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

24. What a totally unfair BS attack. You should be ashamed of yourself

[acerbic]

27. This is indeed a totally unfair BS attack and I'm not ashamed

This forum is full of totally unfair and outright freepy BS attacks against several candidates (most of them against Dean which makes me support him the most). DU rules don't allow counterattacking the persons who keep repeatedly launching unfair BS attacks, so the only possible counterattack is against those persons' candidates. I don't like it but that's how it is now. I would like it very much if totally unfair BS attacks were not allowed against any Democrats.

Do you see the point and understand my position on totally unfair BS attacks or not?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

28. Yes, your position is to emulate what you see as the wrong thing to do

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

32. Monkey see. Monkey do.

[acerbic]

33. And your position is to be utterly sanctimonious and holier than thou

...only about any responses to attacks against candidate(s) you hate.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

34. You admit you are doing what you believe is wrong

and now you are trying to make it about me.

[acerbic]

36. You made it about you when you started your sanctimonious yapping. n/t

.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

37. Why do you have such a hard time being polite?

[blm]

38. It may be YOUR feeling...but, YOU are wrong.

Edwards would no sooner favor Bush than Clinton would. Some folks here score low on the comprehension meter.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

39. It's a response to this:

Thread title

Dean seems like the kind of guy who'd run as an Independent if he doesn't get nominated by the Democrats.


It's linked in the initial post of this thread. Read, mama, read.

Deleting cheap shot about <Some folks here score low on the comprehension meter.> ;-)

[blm]

42. Those are stupid threads.

And the people who believe either ARE low on the comprehension meter.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

44. Yep

[tameszu]

40. Why are you picking on Edwards and his supporters?

At this point, considering their campaign's current tragic lack of momentum, isn't this a bit like kicking a puppy?

And besides, as a Deanie, aren't you going to be needing their support when Edwards drops out?

Just askin'

[genius]

45. This is what the Dean supporters do

If they stopped attacking, they'd have to campaign on the issues and that's Dean's weakness.

[acerbic]

46. "Thanks" for the kick, "genius"

Without you this thread would have died long ago. But then, you simply seem to like having lots of BS attack threads against everyone going on here, don't you?
:think:

[ProfessorPlum]

41. Excellent post

though my "joke threads" always seem to get shut down.

I see almost everyone who answered has a severe irony deficiency . . .

[PAMod]

61. Irony deficiency - I like that

I'm amazed at all of the people who fail to see the point here.

If everyone would take a step back (objectivity), they could see clearly how ridiculous the attacks are.

Good job acerbic!

Great line Professor!

Irony deficiency...heh, heh.

[acerbic]

47. Just a kick...

...honoring the even more ridiculous BS threads being dredged up by the desperate ones. :-)

[JohnKleeb]

48. I disagreed with the original post

but please dont become what you dont like
On this I would say no way, Edwards and Kucinich have probably the most anti corporate record, I dont see any reason why. Edwards hes not my pick but I do think NC is lucky and fortunate to have him btw NC DUers I will trade George Allen for John Edwards lol. Hes not my pick but I do think hes a good senator and man.

[surfermaw]

49. Tell me why would Edwards quit

Edwards, has already told the nation he isn't quitting...Why would anyone thing Edwards of all people would quit in favor of Bush...Edward is a very different person from Bush , and probably see him as he is, a spoiled little wealthy boy.

[acerbic]

50. It's very simple

Edwards, has already told the nation he isn't quitting...

Because he has changed his mind about many things before, if he's now telling that he won't quit it must mean that he will quit.

[surfermaw]

51. This is a democratic Board...why bash democrats/

Bashing Edwards, isn't a very good way of getting votes, these threads are making me think twice about some others.For heaven sake save the bashing for Bush....Edwards as I know of hasn't changed his mind on one thing. Support the nine, untill the true cream rises to the top, and then support the person nominated...don't play into the republicans hands.

[JohnKleeb]

52. surf reason why this is going on

and I am netural on this being a Kucinich supporter. What happened was and welcome aboard too someone said that Dean strikes them as the kind of person if he didnt get the nod would run as an indepedent well it was posted by an Edwards supporter. I do like your pick. He is a good guy and my guy seems to like him. I always admire self made people, he was a good lawyer, and I think the state of North Carolina is good to have him. Also hes pretty anti corporate which I really like.

[surfermaw]

57. I like your Guy

I like your man Dennis, I like the fact that he cares for people.

[JohnKleeb]

59. thanks I appreciate that

You know our candiates get along good? I think Edwards with Kucinich, Sharpton, and M-B I think are probably the most anti corporate oh yeah and Gephardt too.

[surfermaw]

53. This is a democrat board, why bash democrats,?

Bashing Edwards is making me think twice about some that are my second choice...Bash Bush and support the nine until the cream rises to the top, then support the condidate.:D

[surfermaw]

58. Sorry. Im new at this...will get the hang of it soon!

[billbuckhead]

60. Say what?

Edwards would be one of our strongest candidates if America wasn't at war with the world. He's a true hometown hero. I've switched my gaze from John to more military types like Clark and Kerry. But I would never doubt John Edwards patriotism toward the progressive cause.

[Mass_Liberal]

62. Im tired of southern dems

Listen, I value southern democrats a lot. But I think that our presidential representation should be more diverse. I wouldn't mind a northeastern firebrand for once.

p.s this is not an attack on southern democrats


Peace:kick:

[surfermaw]

63. Edwards could be a firebrand along with the rest,

Edwards,born in the south i acts very mild, don't mistake the southern style, to be without fire. Edwards, like most from the south he has probably been taught from birth to only use the fire when necessary,

[mndemocrat_29]

64. This is an idiotic point,

but I'm going to argue it anyway.

If Edwards were a closet Republican (he's not, he's a slightly left of the middle Democrat), why didn't he show his true colors after the Jeffords defection? Then he would've been beloved by Republicans, and he would've been a possible presidential candidate in 2008. This makes no sense at all.