Dean/Edwards or vice versa?

[valphoosier]

I know the conventional wisdom is that Dean would choose (or, rather, prefer) Graham or Clark as his veep candidate, but what about a Dean/Edwards or (less likely, unless Edwards campaign gets in gear) Edwards/Dean?

Edwards, while light on experience, would appeal well to the suburban crowd, and, possibly, to southerners. He's very principled -- even in his support of the war -- and is a solid speaker.

I posted to this effect earlier on that ludicrous anti-Edwards thread, but I really think he could be a great leader for the Democratic party. Howard Dean could re-energize the base and keep the country from continuing to shift right, but I think Edwards would be more attractive to moderates/suburbanites/soccer moms.

Any thoughts on this ticket?

[sujan]

1. I prefer Graham

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

2. I'll take anything after Dean/

[Warpy]

6. I'll take anybody but Bush.

However, my ideal would be Dean/Edwards for the reasons cited, with Kerry/Edwards as first runner up.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

7. I can work with ya on that.

I got nothin' ag'in' Edwards.


On edit: Execept....aw, fuck it....

[Rooktoven]

3. This would be my choice...

I think Dean motivates the base and Edwards draws in the moderate center. It's a winner.

I have been backing JE so far, but I'm hedging because I like Dean's fire. I still think Edwards would play better to the heartland though.

[AP]

4. I believe that the trend in the modern era for VP selection

is not "balance" -- in fact, I feel it's the opposite. The winner usually choses for VP a person who exemplifies the characteristics the candidate wishes to emphasize. For Bush, he picked a businessman from the oil industry in TX so to affirm the notion that these were valuable qualities. Gore picked someone religious to emphasize Gore's dabblings in theology and to make himself contract with Clinton as a moral person. Clinton picked a southern white male from his own generation so to emphasize that the old guard would be passing the baton to his generation. (And GHWB picked a young, handsome guy to offset his age and ugliness, which only served to emphasize how decrepit and out of touch he was.)

So, if you want to predict VP selection, you have to throw away that notion that you're balancing the candidate demographically or geographically. You have to ask yourself which qualities are the most important for your candidate, and pick someone who matches those qualities.

I think Edwards is going to pick someone with a similar biography, like Ruth Ann Minner, or somebody like that. Dean would pick an angry outsider, because that's what he seems to be projecting as his most important quality. Kerry would probably pick somebody else with military service, or a woman with strong foreign relations experience (Madeline Albright?).

I don't think Edwards and Dean match-up in their strengths. The have opposite biographies, and Edwards's approach is the soothing FDR-style, nothing to fear but fear itself thing, which is the opposite of Dean.

[Kolesar]

5. Do you suppose Quayle hurt old Bush in the reelection campaign?

A vacuous pretty boy coupled with a man who could not get you a job. Bush would have wished he had a good VP on the ticket like Al Gore.

[Abigale Applewhite]

14. Tying to out do Clintons wife

I have always felt, that old Bush picked Quale because he thought he would match good looks of Clinton & his wife would match Hillary in education.

[peaceandjustice]

11. Albright is ineligible

She couldn't serve as President if Kerry died, as she was born in Europe. Otherwise, though, you've got intriguing points.

[Kolesar]

8. Dean + Edwards sounds great

Edwards might be able to get him one or more southern state. I have a bad feeling that Edwards cannot get reelected to Senate, so maybe he ought to be on the Presidential ticket to get his name out. That is a shame because Edwards is one sharp dude.

[Abigale Applewhite]

15. Loss of jobs and lowerening of income , might turn the sate around

People in North Carolina ,have lost jobs, when rehired they get a great drop in salary.. and with the state college grads finding it hard to get a job...this might turn the state around, Republicans aren't talking much right now..They might support Bush, but they want do it with happiness.

[Mel]

9. I would love to see Edwards

take the VP spot tell you a few reasons why. I watch him on the Senate floor and he's a good debator he's clear and he doesn't come across as a snob elitist. I really think he will appeal to the working man and woman he wasn't born into money he earned it his roots are in the south, mill family. If he was to help carry NC that would be a good thing, would it not? The unemployment rate is what here in NC? I believe it's like 7% and look at all the jobs still leaving this state jobs that aren't going to come back.

Also, the pukes don't have him on the 'look he's a greedy lawyer' it won't work his cases where honorable fighting for the rights of the people and his biggest win was for a little child. I'm sure most here know that story.

Months and months and months ago the right was gearing up and attacking him they are scared of him! He's good and they know it. Their squawking in this case is only going to appeal to their ditto heads it won't get them any converts. Attacking him on his legal cases will backfire on them period!

So, if Edwards is picked for VP who's he going to debate? Is Dick even going to make it that far? Edwards will be able to take ole' Dick on and for the record I think Lieberman was to easy on Dick!

One other thing about Edwards rather you like it or not he's easy on the eyes and that's not going to hurt either.

What I don't like about him leaving the Senate he's damn good on the judicial committee! If you've not had the chance to watch or listen to him ask question's of the judicial nominees it's a must! He's good! :evilgrin:

[polpilot]

10. Dean/Graham has been the 'money pick' since Fall '02. I'm expecting

the Dean camp to select a 'nuclear' running mate that I currently can't imagine. Options open as momentum builds.

Dean '04

[virtualobserver]

12. I prefer someone who voted against the PATRIOT ACT......

or opposed it.

DEAN \ KUCINICH

or

KUCINICH \ DEAN

[VoteClark]

13. Why support a losing ticket?

Seriouly? Is that not a waste of your time or what?

I would rather do my laundry then support a ticket that is going to lose. At least doing my laundry will accomplish something.

Edwards, Graham, Braun, Kucinich, Sharpton, Gephardt, Lieberman can't win. Half of them could not even win their OWN home states.

Only Clark, Dean, and Kerry can beat Bush. None of them should be considered for VP except maybe Clark.

The rest are weak VP's. Will add nothing to ticket or win a single additional electoral vote.

My Personal choice is Gore. But that is not going to happen. So please send your time on a candidate that will win, unless you are one issue voter that wants to push an issue over the chances of winning and removing Bush from office.

:kick:
J4Clark