Kennedy: Dean's Hot, Kerry's The One

[DrFunkenstein]

WASHINGTON - Howard Dean is connecting with voters in his bid for the White House, but John Kerry will surge in the fall, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy predicted yesterday.

``There is no question that Howard Dean has tapped into an energy in the country which is enormously important and which he deserves credit for,'' Kennedy said in an interview with the Herald.

Noting that Dean appeals to voters concerned about President Bush's handling of both foreign and domestic policy, Kennedy added, ``I think that's been a very effective campaign.''

But Kennedy, who has endorsed his fellow Bay State senator, predicted that as the campaign season picks up after Labor Day and the public begins to pay more attention to the race, Kerry ``will be in the strongest position.

``I think he's best able to lead,'' Kennedy said. ``I don't think there's any candidate that is better qualified than John Kerry. I think that kind of experience and quality and leadership will best be reflected in the time during the fall when individuals are finally making up their mind.''

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http://www2.bostonherald.com/news/national/dean08292003.htm

WASHINGTON - Sen. Edward M. Kennedy yesterday said that despite their family ties, Arnold Schwarzenegger has not sought his political advice in the raucous California gubernatorial recall vote - and likely won't.

``He hasn't asked me, and I never expected him to,'' the Massachusetts Democrat said in an interview with the Herald. ``I don't think he expected that he would either.''

Kennedy insists that he and the former Mr. Universe are ``good friends,'' although he won't support him politically.

``I indicated I liked Arnold,'' he said. ``But I'm against the recall. I'm a Democrat, so he knows that. I know he knows it.''

http://www2.bostonherald.com/news/national/tedk08292003.htm

[JohnKleeb]

1. Teddy nice points

Kerry is technically the most qualified, and I think Ted sees a bit of big brother John in John Kerry. Kerry is a great guy, and is one of the three campaign sites I have added to favorites. So Kerry has a great history, the bay state is lucky to have him and Teddy as senators.

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[JohnKleeb]

6. your welcome

I have said I am a democrat, I stay in the same reason for the reason my candiate does because he knows the party can do good for the people and I am a missionary lol sorry Dennis didnt mean to take your joke pal. There are all good men, I just happen to think that Kucinich has the best vision and heart, and views.

[GalleryGod]

8. Hey,Pete! Perspective is in short supply around these parts.

What will the Media call this calendar period, if indeed, Dean flames-out?

:argh:

[Cha]

14. The media sucks...who cares what they do?

the media doesn't tell the truth and they should be indicted for helping to sell our Country down the river!

[JohnKleeb]

15. of course the media sucks

but its what people get their news from, so connation be good or bad the candiate on the news will get publicity and benefit from it. I wish my candiate could get news but at the moment it seems they wont.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

2. Can Ted give me the winning lottery numbers, too?

Because if he can't....

[Cha]

5. I was wondering about Ted's Crystal Ball, myself!

I think it is touching that Teddy and John have stayed friends for so long!

[cherryperry]

7. LOL - RUMMYisCUTE

(edited for improper capitalization-wow my first error all year!)

I always figured Kerry would be the nominee because of his ties to some heavy-hitters, but I would prefer Wellstone/Kucinich ... yes, I understand that Wellstone is dead but I've decided to just ignore that point, besides, isn't Bush dead and he's running ... ba da bing!

[Larkspur]

4. Of course Ted is going to back Kerry, but Kerry is going to have to prove

himself. Howard Dean has raised the bar very high and Kerry has a lot of catching up to do.

[GalleryGod]

9. Perspective Check: Gary Hart Campaign,February,1984.

:smoke:

[JohnKleeb]

10. on the campaign trail you bet

his record, thats not gonna be so hard. I am a Kucinich supporter you know but I think Kerry has a voting record that is very liberal and likable. Plus historically and overall in the past hes been more anti war than Dean, no offense, I wont be going third party if Dean gets the nod, I like him but I prefer Kerry.

[Larkspur]

16. Voting against the 1991 Iraq war was not being anti-war.

It was being stupid.

Iraq was invading another country, who was our ally. Kuwait's allies were asking for our help.

Forward to 2002 and our Middle East allies, except Israel, are telling us NOT to wage war against Saddam. What does Kerry do? Vote's for The Fraud's war.

[JohnKleeb]

17. actually I was talking about Iran-Contra

and Dean in a time magazine article was quoted as having "mixed feelings"
Look Kerry isnt even my candiate, but if it came down to him and Dean I am sorry but I would go Kerry. With all respect.

[blm]

18. Dean said he had "mixed feelings" about IranContra????

I missed that. Do you have any more on that?

[JohnKleeb]

20. ok hold up blm

http://www.time.com/time/columnist/klein/article/0,9565,464429,00.html
here
"Such sentiments have been misinterpreted by assorted Beltway savants as a leftward lurch by Democratic Party activists; it seems more a reaction to the rightward lurch of the Republicans. Dean, who has been mischaracterized as the reincarnation of George McGovern, is certainly no traditional liberal or even a traditional dove. "I told the peace people not to fall in love with me," he told me over breakfast in Manchester, N.H., last week. He said he had opposed Vietnam, but he had supported the first Gulf War, the interventions in Bosnia and Kosovo, and the war in Afghanistan. In the 1980s he had "mixed feelings" about Ronald Reagan's support for the contras in Nicaragua and opposed a unilateral nuclear freeze. "I'm not a pacifist. I believe there are times when pre-emptive force is justified, but there has to be an immediate threat, and there just wasn't in this case."

[blm]

23. I don't get how anyone can have mixed feelings

about it with all that came out at the time.

[JohnKleeb]

26. I dont know either

I also dont like being told its boom not true before I even show the article. BTW I killed another bird with my stone at the same time. Did a search on Dennis Kucinich hardly mentioned he was and and when he was, I saw Dean or Nader's name on the article, what it was about.

[ProfessorPlum]

28. Read the quote again

Dean had mixed feelings for Reagan's support for the contras, which was no secret. The fact that his administration sold weapons illegally to Iran to secretly fund the Contras after Congress had said no way was probably less to Dean's liking, as it was to all of us.

[JohnKleeb]

31. I dunno but this issue Kerry surpasses Dean even if you think like that

[Cha]

19. Time magazine did a hachet job on Dean so I don't believe

anything they said....Time wants bush...

[JohnKleeb]

21. whatever what article do you speak of

This isnt the one with him on the cover. You guys know that Dean has acknowledged that he supported the gulf war, Kosovo, and others
http://www.time.com/time/columnist/klein/article/0,9565,464429,00.html
Just saying I dont think this is calling him McGovern.
I am not bashing Dean but I do strongly disagree with him if this is true and I think Kerry has the better anti war history, all I meant and I am proving my point. Besides Kerry was a well known leader against the Vietnam war. Kerry aint perfect, and he isnt my candiate but I prefer him to Dean I think.

[Cha]

22. Kerry voted for this illegal bogus Attack on Iraq!

[blm]

24. Does Dean think it was illegal?

I guess you would have been fine with Dean if the Biden-Lugar bill had passed and Bush still went into Iraq?

[Cha]

29. I don't have to agree with Dean on every thing!

I never said he was perfect or that I agreed with him all the time!

I know Dean said the bushwa didn't make the case for the Attack and I agree! No Case! It shouldn't have passed in our Senate and House! Bunch of wussys.

[JohnKleeb]

32. well thats why I support the man whom

I told doesnt have a chance and some of you Dean supporters respect him and acknowledge him but I admire how Dennis Kucinich did what he did, he tried to organize the house democrats against the war and no offense to Dean but I liked how Dennis spoke to protesters of the war in NYC I wasnt there unfortunely but I read the speech superb :) as always. There was never a case for war imo.

[JohnKleeb]

25. Hey look at my avatar

I am not for Kerry. I am just saying look I opposed the war a lot but it would be absurd to use it as a litmus test. Kerry is far from perfect on being against wars but I think history tells us hes better than Dean. Kerry pissed off Nixon bad enough to get on his enemies list. I read Dean opposed Vietnam thats good but I for one thought Iran-Contra was wrong so did at the time rookie Senator John Kerry, I am not trying to convert you to Kerry if I wanted to I would get you for Kucinich.

[Cha]

27. I know, John! You just said you liked Kerry second so I am

saying why I don't like Kerry second!

[JohnKleeb]

30. Kerry isnt my second my second is a ?

I am sorry but we musnt use the war as a litmus test, Shrub has fucked up the country and other ways. Kerry while he isnt Kucinich on economics, he is better than Dean. Also again I oppose the death penalty while Dean wasnt Shrub on it in Vermont he does support it and I think Kerry tends to oppose, again Kucinich's absolute opposition is why I like him. I am not supporting Kerry not but with the exception of the war I must say I prefer Kerry to Dean.
With Respect
Kleeb

[Cocoa]

11. if Kennedy did give advice to Arnold

he might say something about not bragging about orgies. I have the idea that just because there's no Ted interview in Oui doesn't mean there couldn't have been. :-)

[budmo]

12. Kennedy's political answers

I'm originally from Boston...I know the Kennedy word strikes a long listen to fellow Bostonians and Mass. people alike But....Dean's not needing to prove anything to the Mass. senators...he's already proving his abilites way beyond just a simple commentary from Kennedy. The truth of the amtter is that Kerry has yet to catch fire anywhere and even though they make a big deal about everything falling into place come labor day, I think it's important to remember that Howard Dean has defied ALL logic and political history. He's writing his own and I feel quite sure he will contiue to right up to the last primary and the convention.
I see it so clearly....Dean/Clark!

[Cha]

13. Well budmo! Welcome to DU!

:toast:

Thanks for your perspective!

There was a lady from Stockbridge in my Co-op yesterday and she was asking about my DeanforAmerica Pin and where she could get one and
she mentioned that Dean was ahead in the N.H. Primary!

I was working so I couldn't talk to her as much as I wanted but later I thought Wow! She was from Mass and she was for Dean.

She told me, too, that she thought Dean was a "dynamic speaker"..and I wish I had asked her where she had heard him speak!

:kick:

[budmo]

35. Zidzi..Thankyou!

Go to: deanforamerica.com

All sorts of buttons and links to various positions,events, opportunities.etc. It's an amazing web site. Helps keep one energized about the campaign.

BFN...Budmo!

[Forkboy]

33. Kennedy makes good points

as usual.

[CMT]

34. Teddy does make good points

Technically, Kerry may be more qualified for president than say, Dean. But of course after five terms as a Governor and years of experience in state government--so is Dean. But then in 1976 it could be argued that Mo Udall and Scoop Jackson were more qualified than Jimmy Carter to be president, but it was Carter who connected with voters--something Dean has done and Kerry has yet to prove.

[VermontDem2004]

36. woohoo!!! Kennedy said something good about Dean

I have no problem with him endorsing Kerry, Kerry is a fine candidate and deserves endorsements.

[Rose Siding]

37. Kennedy would never think of disrespecting

a large chunk of an enthusiastic base. He is a great man and a great Democrat.

He also knows that a pres from his state would be of enormous benefit to Kennedy's constituents, who he serves so faithfully.

[cherryperry]

38. Now, that is true! n/t