Stop the wishful thinking

[jerryster]

OK, DUers. I think the time has come to stop all the wishful thinking and butt heads with some reality. I'll list what I think has to happen and then I'll state why.

First, the 2 per centers (my phrase) have to drop out of the race. NOW. Yeah, I like what a lot of them have to say. But I don't care which side of the political fence you're on, when you start explaining how 2 per cent means your core is really solid, blah, blah, blah it's spin. And that's all it is. The low number wannabes have to get out and let the outcome be between Dean, Lieberman, Gephardt and Kerry. Like it or not, those are the 4 to slug it out. Which brings me to....

Wesley Clark. The posts regarding Clark have been informative and thought provoking. Truth be told, I am impressed with what I've read. Nonetheless, my feeling is as follows: let him declare something. Anything. If he's in the race for the top spot, he needs to say so NOW. Or not. Or say he'd be willing to be VP, or Sec of State. But he has to declare something. Then we can get on with finding out who our Pres candidate will be and we need to know soon. Why?...

George W Bush and the republican party, that's why. I'll explain. I want Bush gone in 2004 as much as the next DUer. And while his numbers may be dropping they are still good enough to win. (Before your fingers scorch the keyboard, ask yourself if you are just wishful thinking that your candidate can beat him. Because wishful thinking will kill us.) Now I care about a lot of the issues that Bush is on the wrong side of like the economy (his deficits are disastrous) the environment (beyond despicable) joblessness (lies about how things are improving; yeah, right) and other issues as well). But here is the most disturbing thing: THE ONLY THING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY CARES ABOUT IN 2004 IS KEEPING BUSH IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THAT, TO PUT IT BLUNTLY, IS THEIR GREATEST STRENGTH. They are raising so much money it boggles the mind. I read a figure that Bush may have 200,000,000 to campaign with. That figure is erroneous. He already HAS that much. I believe the number could go twice as high. And what are we doing? Well we're looking at candidates with 2 per cent of jack shit and saying THEY CAN DO IT!! What is this? High School? Let's get the candidate identified who's going to be running against Bush (and it WON'T be any of the 2 per centers, believe me), coalesce behind that candidate and get this incompetent, undeserving clueless clown out of the Oval Office. It's what we all want. Wishful thinking is not the way to achieve it.

[Egnever]

1. Good points....

However one of the great things about having so many candidates is the fact that all of them are out speaking out against bush in many places all the time. The more carying the message that bush is a dissaster on a national level at this point the better IMHO. There will be plenty of time to get behind the nominee once the primaries are over till then. I hope Sharpton keeps on Slaping that donkey!

[diplomats]

2. I wouldn't have a problem if the field winnowed out

and you're right about Bush's advantages; they're formidable. There are a lot of wildcards, including Iraq and the economy, but Bush will probably be hard to beat even if he has obvious liabilities. I feel we have a shot in 2004 but many things have to go our way and against Bush for that to happen.

[On the Road]

3. I Agree with the Sentiment

but there's still plenty of time. We're nowhere near the first primary! The field will narrow down quickly after Iowa and New Hampshire. As long as the candidates refrain from damaging personal attacks, having the race undecided has the beneficial effect of keeping the candidates in the news and in people's minds before the conventions. (If it's already decided, who cares?)

I agree time is growing short for Wesley Clark. The nomination process is so front-loaded this election, it may even be too late.

But beating Bush is not wishful thinking. If Dean does not self-destruct, he's the one who will take on Bush. And from his announcements, he's already thinking ahead and planning for the general election.

[diamondsoul]

4. ....

"OK, DUers. I think the time has come to stop all the wishful thinking and butt heads with some reality. I'll list what I think has to happen and then I'll state why.

First, the 2 per centers (my phrase) have to drop out of the race. NOW. Yeah, I like what a lot of them have to say. But I don't care which side of the political fence you're on, when you start explaining how 2 per cent means your core is really solid, blah, blah, blah it's spin. And that's all it is. The low number wannabes have to get out and let the outcome be between Dean, Lieberman, Gephardt and Kerry. Like it or not, those are the 4 to slug it out."

In a word, NO. And to respond to your "ask yourself" proposition, no, I am not engaging in "wishful thinking".

I do know who has ever said "2% means your core is really solid", but it certainly wasn't me. My statements are NO, my candidate should absolutely not drop out of the race until the primaries have ended. Win or lose, for the good of this nation he MUST remain in the field.

I've said it before and I will say it again, I will NOT compromise with evil personified. My candidate is the only one who has put forth a platform that addresses every single bit of destruction BFEE has visited on the American people and on the world at large and is determined to overturn it all. There is a reason the four you named are most popular. It's because a candidate like mine scares the ever loving shit out of all of them. They have no choice but to try to keep him from being seen and heard because if people actually put their faith in Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich, they know they wil lose every bit of their dispicable control over us.

They aren't afraid of Lieberman, Gephart, Kerry or even Dean, and why is that? Because they know those four will leave them enough power to continue their little stroll across the backs of innocents. Not on my watch, friend. I WILL stand my ground, and so will my candidate.