New CBS poll of Dem candidates

[Rose Siding]

CBS News Poll. Aug. 26-28, 2003.

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04dem.htm

[DJcairo]

1. Interesting...this shows that Kerry's name is known but his campaign

hasn't sparked national interest. I suspect that will change after his media blitz tomorrow and the official announcement. I can't wait.

[onehandle]

2. If we believed the polls at this time in 1991....

The Democratic Nominee would have been Mario Cuomo. Clinton was nearly dead last.

[renie408]

4. That's what I was curious about

Front runners never stay that way.

And who in the hell are they talking to, anyway?? Gephardt and Lieberman?? Where did they come from? I don't get how they are staying at the tops of the polls when you so rarely see any support for them. Especially Lieberman.

[DJcairo]

5. And Clinton lost in both Iowa and NH by clear margins

In Iowa he didn't even get 5% and in NH he finished a strong second behind Tsongas but still, he was a clear 7 points back.

[JohnKleeb]

6. gives me hope about DK

[Nicholas_J]

14. Clinton was at 2 percent...

As a matter of fact I posted a meesage yesterday from the manchester union leader that poited out that no one who is in the lead on labor day should be certain of the nomination as moreDems were in the lead at labor day lostt the nomination thn have won it. The only time they won it was if there was no serious opposition to the candidate.

WASHINGTON — By tradition, Labor Day is the political starting gun, the time when voters tend to notice the race for the Presidency.

Through the years, the presumptive front-runners have discovered that Labor Day is either the beginning of the glide path to the nomination and the White House or the time they acquire a giant bull’s-eye on their back.

It just depends on the political party.

“Democrats traditionally don’t have all that much respect for front-runners,” said political scientist Larry Sabato of the University of Virginia. “They view them more as targets.”

Consider a recent list of early leaders from Labor Day weekends’ past — Mario Cuomo in 1991, Gary Hart in 1987 and Ted Kennedy in 1979. All three led in national polls in September, months before the caucuses and primaries. All three never won the party’s nomination and if they’ve spent any time in the West Wing, it’s been as a visitor


http://www.theunionleader.com/prez_show.html?article=25609

[pa28]

3. One third?

Only 33% of Democrats can even name a candidate. You would think impeachment, theft of election, Iraq, media bias, etc. etc would motivate our party to be informed and to vote. They should be willing to crawl over broken glass on election day to punch a straight ticket. But no, as our democracy . . . oh, I mean republic . . . gets ugly beyond recognition our people shrink away and get discouraged. Wake up idiots!

[renie408]

7. Be careful with that 'idiot' thing

Those 'idiots' need to be our new best friends. If *we* who are here and interested in the process are the ones who can name the candidates and have a rough idea of what they are about, then we are the ones who have to let the 'idiots' in on what is going on.

And honestly, they aren't 'idiots'. They have lives. The election is over a year away. The primaries aren't for months. Let it get closer to voting and we'll see how many 'idiots' are out there.

[diamondsoul]

9. I'm right there with you, renie.

With the number of don't knows and undecideds in ALL of these polls this is absolute proof this is not the time for any of them to drop out!

Shoot, picking up the don't know and undecideds puts any of the bottom polling candidates in the top tier. This is gonna be one wild ride!

[pa28]

10. Wrong

In the 2002 election plenty of the aforementioned group stayed home while the Republicans hit another grand slam. I don't think that "being their friend" and holding their hand as we have done in the past is going to turn the situation around. Shaking the public out of their collective stupor may not work but I think it's better than having an encounter session.

[renie408]

11. I have always found

that verbally attacking people and treating them like idiots has always been the best way to lure them to my side.

Hey, maybe I am supporting the wrong candidate.

[ringmastery]

12. Exactly

I can make a good point that someone who spends hours a day posting on message boards is an idiot. Why aren't some people at DU working or doing something more productive with their time than arguing politics?

Just because someone doesn't care to get involved doesn't mean they're an idiot. If you had to work two or three jobs to pay your rent or put food on the table for your kids, you might not know or care about the political process either.

[renie408]

13. HERESY!!

Has anybody the remake of 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers' with Donald Sutherland?? You know how all the aliens would point and make this hideous screeching noise when they saw a human??

If you listen closely.....

[diamondsoul]

8. Ok, I have to tell you all, I am totally

unaffected by these results. I scrolled down the whole page. Funny thing. Back in January after having been campaigning for a bit, Dean was polling where Kucinich is now. Anybody recognize anything here?