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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:55 AM
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Marian Wright Edelman, Fritz Hollings support John Kerry.
More supporters include Deb Callahan (Pres. League of Conservation Voters).....you can hear their audio endorsements here: http://www.johnkerry.com/news/releases/pr_2003_0903b.html
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:06 PM
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1. huh???
I saw three ads for Iowa, but didn't waste time watching them. This is a well known link showing Kerry's major endorsements, and Hollings' name isn't in the list.

<http://www.politics1.com/kerry.htm>

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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:11 PM
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2. Seconded
I have an article from Roll Call dated 14 April 2003 that says Hollings is staying neutral. I do think Hollings is a closet Kerry supporter, but the link posted doesn't show that he's come out and made an endorsement.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:15 PM
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3. Click on the audio link in the upper righthand photo....
Edited on Sat Sep-06-03 01:16 PM by blm
I did say you can HEAR their audio endorsements. Enjoy.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:14 PM
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7. okay, that counts as a superdelegate endorsement (n/t)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:56 PM
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22. Thankyou...are you updating
your site?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 08:57 PM
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17. I expect the list will be updated soon.
.
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:19 PM
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4. The best way to tell is look at the FEC reports...
Edited on Sat Sep-06-03 01:24 PM by burr
If Hollings has contributed the maximum Kerry's campaign, and token amounts to other campaigns then he is in Kerry's camp. This is how it usually worked on the congressional campaigns I worked on. If you are an elected office holder, it is seen as politically damaging to you, your supporters, and your state to make a public endorsement this early. So this is the way office holders will back primary candidates they like.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:27 PM
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5. The best way to tell is listen to Fritz yourself
on the audio link of supporters on the upper righthand pic.
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:52 PM
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6. I did...
believe, Kerry knows the value of the dollar, remember, we know Kerry, and he knows the value of a dollar, he's qualified...believe me you will believe...you must...obey..remember..you have no choice..oobeey....



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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:15 PM
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8. Well, sorta
I mean, these are kinda like character references, not really endorsements.

Does, LCV, CDF, etc even get involved in primaries?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:58 PM
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9. Not as an organization.
These are personal endorsements. Like, when Kweisi Mfume said he'd love to see Kerry as the nominee, he was speaking for himself and not as the head of the NAACP.
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:27 PM
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12. I agree....
this is why we didn't see Hollings at Kerry's announcement in South Carolina.

Let me also give Kerry my personal endorsement and all my love, but not necessarily my vote!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:48 PM
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14. That's not the reason, but you're welcome to think that.
I think I know SC a little bit better than most.

And I did not mean personal the way YOU are using it. I mean personal as opposed to their organization's endorsement because those organizations don't DO political endorsements. The fact that their leaders personally endorse Kerry does speak volumes.

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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:27 PM
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19. When Hollings starts to campaign for Kerry in N.H. in a Kerry T-shirt...
and appears on the trail with Kerry in a high profile manner, but not for the other candidates, then I will buy this. I will be convinced when he starts twisting arms and pitching for Kerry in South Carolina.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:46 PM
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20. I'm not selling it. Hollings is saying it himself...
WHY I SUPPORT JOHN KERRY....
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:47 PM
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24. I'm not buying, so not a problem...
Hollings spoke nicely about Kerry knowing the value of the dollar along with other compliments. I never heard him say "I support Kerry or please back him, he's my man."

When Holling means something, he is very direct. If he felt strongly about Kerry, he would never avoid the point which was...reasons he supports Kerry for President. Not just give reasons that he thinks Kerry is a good guy!

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 10:33 AM
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25. Look at the header, it says WHY I SUPPORT JOHN KERRY
Hollings wouldn't have allowed his statement to be used on a campaign website and Kerry wouldn't have used it if Hollings wasn't supporting him.

Geez....I suppose everyone on their is just saying nice things?
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:08 AM
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26. What header????
oh that one... :o

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:20 PM
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27. Hey, Emily Litella...you forgot to say
"Never mind."

heheh.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:15 PM
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10. Finally Fritz has done what has been anticipated since last December
Edited on Sat Sep-06-03 03:17 PM by Nicholas_J
With Holling goes South Carolina.

Kerry is the only Democratic candidate that Holings has been talking up for the last year.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:09 AM
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21. Hollings and Sanders...
and Inez Tenenbaum's husband is a supporter. Word is that internal polls here show others do best with Kerry at the top of the ticket.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:26 PM
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11. An endorsement is something specific
I think we should try to use words correctly. You could have chosen praise, accolades, alot of words. But if they haven't officially endorsed, I would prefer the word not be used. Just me.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:44 PM
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13. He's on audio saying WHY he supports Kerry
on Kerry's WEBSITE, along eith his photo. Hollings must have authorized it or it wouldn't be there. Is saying you support someone on their campaign website somehow unofficial?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:53 PM
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15. Endorsement
It isn't just nice words somebody says. It means something specific and it is misleading to say Fritz endorsed Kerry. It didn't happen, at least not yet.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:57 PM
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16. It specifically says WHY I SUPPORT JOHN KERRY...
that doesn't seem to be misleading to me.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 09:57 PM
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18. Okay
Maybe it was just lazy reading on my part.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 06:28 PM
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23. Every pollster and political consultant has been waiting
For Holling to support SOMEONE though it has always been suspected that it would be Kerry.

The reason is that they know that whoever Holling supports will end up carrying South Carolina Democrats.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:04 PM
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28. WOW - More good news!
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:37 PM
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29. Don't forget....
even Teresa said some good things, and I LOVED THAT ACCENT!!! ;)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 04:24 PM
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30. Yes, she is a REAL asset to any campaign.
Edited on Mon Sep-08-03 04:25 PM by blm
So smart, so honest, so compassionate, and one of the world's leading environmentalists AND philanthropists.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 09:01 AM
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31. More to come, Molly.
It's gonna be GREAT!
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