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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 10:37 PM
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Mississippi Congressman endorses Clark...
Gene Taylor (D-Miss) joined House members endorsing Clark. (he's JChild'd rep)

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/6851809.htm

I don't think he's ever endorsed a national Democrat before. These are exactly the kind of voters that we need to bring home to the Democratic party.
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jfxgillis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 10:50 PM
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1. Worthless fucking piece of shit.
Not Clark, all power to him.

Gene Taylor is worthless fucking piece of shit. Since the ONLY reasonable defense for voting for worthless fucking pieces of shit like Taylor are because they at least help the Democrats organize the House, and since that worthless fucking piece of shit has not even voted for the Dem Caucus candidate for Speaker, he's a worthless fucking piece of shit on all counts.

If, as is likely (though the converse is possible), Clark loses the nomination, the only thing that worthless fucking piece of shit Taylor will do is endorse Bush anyway, why should his endorsement be anything more than a worthless fucking piece of shit endorsement from a worthless fucking piece of shit Congressman?
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 10:51 PM
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2. Thanks for your thoughtful reply
n/t
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jfxgillis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 10:55 PM
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3. I hate Gene Taylor
Of the 435 members of the House, he's 434th on my list of favorites, and he sometimes gives Tom Delay a run for 435th.

DeLay, at least, doesn't steal his seat every two years pretending to be something he's not.

Besides, "converse" is a "thoughtful" word, isn't it?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 10:56 PM
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4. he sort of sounds like our Don Young,
'congressman for life'. These guys sort of bring it out in you, don't they?
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 10:59 PM
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5. he's lower than Ralph Hall?
Ralph Hall's ratings:

ACU:
2002: 88
2001: 96
Lifetime: 83

ADA Lifetime: 15 (and they even have him listed as a Republican)

Gene Taylor's ratings:

ACU:
2002: 48
2001: 64
Lifetime: 70

ADA Lifetime: 28

so Taylor's pretty bad, but he occaisonally votes like a Democrat. Hall is WORTHLESS on every single vote.
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jfxgillis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:02 PM
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7. I'm a C-Span junky--
--how else do you suppose I'd have the chutzpah to say "434th" least favorite? and I see Gene Taylor on the floor a lot more than I see Hall.

Good point, though.

I'm curious as to Hall's votes for Speaker, though, which is a defining vote in my book.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 06:31 AM
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12. Present in 2003, Gep in 2001
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rads Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 06:41 AM
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14. He voted for Murtha?
Was there a story behind him specifically voting for Murtha (rather than present) '01 and '03? Seems kind of odd. Or maybe I'm reading it wrong.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 07:08 AM
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15. Not that I know of (n/t)
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 06:23 PM
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17. You're confusing him with Taylor
Taylor voted for Murtha both times. So Taylor's vote was really a statement about the direction he wanted to take the Democratic party, one we certainly don't agree with, but it's not as bad as just refusing to Pelosi like Hall and 2 others.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:02 PM
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6. Taylor's harldly my favorite congressman....
I'd rank him around 230, ahead of most any Republican except a few north eastern liberal rethugs. Just my opinion. What's important about the article is the point it makes about Clark being able to bring back groups that have the potential to significantly broaden the coalition that is the Democratic party.
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jfxgillis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:08 PM
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8. You know, after my thoughtful reply ....
.... I thought it over.

If the Democrats NEED the Gene Taylors, then why bother? We have to surrender too much of our soul to a constituency that is as best nominally competitive, and, I might add, a constituency that has consistently betrayed party unity for, oh, 60 years.

Therefore, I return to my original "thoughtful" reply. FUCK Gene Taylor. If he wants to vote for Clark, good, that's one vote in a state that won't go Dem for President anyway. Otherwise, his endorsement is worthless.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:22 PM
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9. Really, we need to shed all those damn loser moderates....
Especially those in the Housse and Senate. Get down to a solid 150 progressives in the house and 28-30 true progressives in the Senate. If they can't vote 100% left, we don't need 'em-they should go Republican.

That's the ticket!
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jfxgillis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:27 PM
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10. Moderates, I don't mind
Edited on Wed Sep-24-03 11:28 PM by jfxgillis
Taylor is a RIGHT-WING Democrat, a dying breed, thank the Lord.

If he can't vote for the Caucus candidate for Speaker, then fuck him. He's useless.
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 12:42 AM
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11. Two more likely Clark supporters...
Jim Marshall (D-3rd) and Sanford Bishop (D-2nd). Both are Congressmen from Georgia that have voting records similar to Taylor's, and both served for brief periods in the military during Vietnam.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 06:32 AM
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13. Superdelegate!
Although it's not a very popular superdelegate...
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 01:01 PM
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16. This is very good!!!
We need to get voters like this into the fray of things!
Of course the fray is ours!

While not my favorite, Mr. Taylor has taken on Bush on Economic and Fiscal policy! He supports the Dem's 100% on that!
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 06:37 PM
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18. then why did he back shrub's taxcuts...100%???
:shrug:
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 06:47 PM
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19. he didn't
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 07:25 PM
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20. true...
this was also the case for the second round.
<http://clerkweb.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=2003&rollnumber=225>

The real question is would he support the repeal of these taxhikes?
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:46 AM
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21. the one time I watched C-SPAN
he was on. He had out graphs and charts showing how these supposed tax cuts were going to jack up the deficit and then said something along the lines of "Tell me the reason you came to Congress was to bankrupt the country." He may sell out the Dems on a lot of issues but this isn't one of them. I have no doubt he'd vote to repeal them.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:36 PM
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22. You've only seen C-SPAN once?
You've got to get in more... ;-)
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