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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:00 AM
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John Edwards WILL BE President of the United States
Mark my words. Unfortunately it might not be in 2004 (although anything could happen.) Edwards has "it" though. Whatever "it" is, Edwards has it dripping off of him.

Nuff said.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:04 AM
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1. Perhaps, but I seriously doubt 2004
He certainly does have a kind of natural appeal, but I don't think he's polished enough as a public speaker, in political/electoral terms, yet.
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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:48 PM
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33. Sorry you missed the debate in Phoenix
You must have missed it because he was by far the most genuine, persuasive speaker and he had the most well thought out and positive message.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 05:37 PM
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38. I saw him at the Wyndham before the debate
and he was very friendly- said HI to all us DK supporters...
I said Hi John back to him and wished him well in the debates...

....must be that southern charm....and he's one of those outgoing Gemini's,too....and sorry, but he is easy on the eyes.....


Peace
DR
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:04 AM
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2. Do you think rove and bush have something dripping from their pants
after watching the debate tonight?
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:09 AM
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3. I just finished watching it
Was out of the house for the original airing, so I had to watch the rebroadcast. I though the debate SUCKED. The personal attacks should stop, we need to thin the heard...too many voices. Judy Woodruff needs to ask a question THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!

I feel the need to qualify my "thin the heard" statement. I believe ALL the candidates have wonderful ideas and their voices NEED to be heard every single day. They need to shout it from the mountain tops! However, we need to make the most of these debates and we just can't do that when we have 4 or 5 folks in there with absolutely no chance of winning. That's my humble opinion. I know it's not a popular one.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:27 AM
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7. Whenever They Spoke About Their Vision, Judy Cut Them Off
When they pulled off the knives, she let them do what they wanted.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:44 AM
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9. Sharpton said the most beautiful thing of the evening...about Edwards.
That was the opposite of an attack.

About Edwards's bio: "that's doesn't say something about votes...it says something about hope...he shouldn't be criticized...he should be saluted."
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:34 AM
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18. I'm with you on the Judy Woodruff thing, thinking of turning offCNN
Judy woodruff, is the one newscster that is wearing thin with me, also the other CNN political consultant...If AHrnold got a vote for every time she said his name after he announced that was enought botes to get him elected.

Now for Edwards, I think he has what it takes, and is gaining more and more experience every day...they all did well, wish we could have a debate to watch every day.

Did anyone notice that last night, Woodruff started asking Edwards, a question about why didn't some of the Democrats get out of the campaign, he jumped in and didn't say a word about it, that was one of the questions Tucker Carlson ask Begala on Crossfire, Why did Edwards mess up a successfull political thing, running for Presidnet?
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:16 AM
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5. I don't get it?
Your opinion is either the candidates did really well, and Rove/Bush are shitting their pants, or the candidates did poorly and Rove/Bush are creaming their jeans.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 01:06 AM
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12. shitting their pants. I didn't realize the other allusion until
you pointed it out. Yuck. I don't like to think of them as sexual beings.

Could you imagine either of them having sex? Disgusting.
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ramuji Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 04:36 AM
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16. Bush/Rove sex?
Sure. Fucking a goat, most likely.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:24 AM
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17. Ewwwwwww
MODS!!!! AP is being GROSS!!!!!!! :)
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:14 AM
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4. no way
never gonna happen
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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:21 AM
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6. He needs a haircut
Hell, make it an entire make-over. I love listening to him but his 70's hairstyle is distracting. I hate to sound shallow but sex appeal is an issue you can't escape these days.

I think he was the one who stood out for me tonight, though.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 11:05 PM
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44. His accent sounds australian.
Or that's what my sister thinks. I tend to agree, uncanny.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:28 AM
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8. While I Am Still Waiting For The Clark Verdict
I think that Edwards has quietly moved to my #2 choice.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:46 AM
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10. Y'know? I do like Edwards more and more as time goes by.
I'm still backing Dean, but Edwards says a lot of good things and none of the other candidates seem to have found a way to attack him. That SHOULD be a recipe for high polls, but it hasn't been so far. I honestly don't know why. While I want Dean to win this nomination (and election) I really hope to see Edwards stick around and try again.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 01:05 AM
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11. Psst. The media ignores Edwards. If they had to pay attention, he'd
shoot up in the polls (ie, once he's nominated).

So it's my job as a primary voter to make sure he gets to that point.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 01:24 AM
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13. I'm not denying that. I've never understood his lack of traction with the
media. Of course, MY job is to make sure Dean is the nominee, but I'll happily support Edwards if that's not the case.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 08:48 AM
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23. His lack of traction with the media is because of the potential for trac-
tion with the public if he gets too much attention and coverage.

If I had control of the media in three days, I could get the public to love Edwards so much that Bush's approval ratings would fall to about 2%.
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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:53 PM
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34. Press loves mud, doesn't love policy
Edwards has a great total plan. When the press writes about an event, though, they cover the in-fighting first (who would cover what Lieberman said in a debate if he didn't throw mud?) and then on page 18, they cover the candidates who had good policy positions and a positive message.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:38 AM
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19. AP..you have the answer, It is like their staying away is intensional
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 02:35 AM
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14. I like Edwards a lot...
but I'm very disappointed he's not running to retain his senate seat. I think it's a huge mistake. He could very well be president some day, but he needs more than one term in the senate. He's very unlikely (read definitely) not going to get the nomination this year.

His only hope at all is to get a cabinet position in a new Dem administration. Beyond that, I think he's sinking his own political future.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:44 AM
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20. From his state
It would be hard for him to do both.. you would need to lean a little to the right for the North Carolina Vote,(Jesse Helms country) for the national vote you need to go left.

Edwards, knows what he is doing, with the economy being as it is in North Carolina, even the old redneck Helms, vote may go left this time, new people moving into the state, and college kids failing to find jobs...the new democrat candidate will have one of the best changes to beat a republican in this comming election.
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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 03:54 PM
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35. The South needs Edwards at the top of the ticket
Or all the Senate seats, the open governors' seats, congressional seats and state houses are on the line. Believe it!
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 04:28 PM
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36. coat tails...it's an important issue. 19 contested senate seats are
held by dems, I believe. Lots of them are in the south.
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 03:58 AM
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15. Edwards impresses me every time
I agree. If he doesn't end up in the White House one day I will be very surprised.

I've said it many times on this board many times I can't for the life of me figure out why he isn't doing better. I think a huge part of it is that the media makes a point to ignore him. I think he has done very well in every debate I have watched. If he were to get some more exposure I have no doubt his numbers would improve.

If he doesn't end up either Pres. or VP would he accept the Attorney General job? Since he's not running for his Senate seat again he has to want to stay involved in politics in some form until it's his time.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:49 AM
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21. My thought also, Pres. V.P or A.G.
He will be president some day, he needs a little polish, getting a little better every day... and the fact so many are in the race is giving him a few excellent courses every time they debate.
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RandomUser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 11:46 AM
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29. I agree
If he doesn't get the nomination, he would do well in the VP or AG slot. He's young and has a long career ahead of him. He'll have a good shot at President again somewhere down the line, I don't doubt.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 08:40 AM
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22. Not in 2004, but maybe later
He should have kept his Senate seat--not sure what he's thinking--it ain't his year this go-around.

Is he thinking of running for Governor, realizing that that's the place to be if you want to make a run for prez?
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kang Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 09:32 AM
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24. I really like Edwards
so if he doesn't get the nomination or VP slot, I sure hope we can find somewhere for him to serve until he can run for another office. He's too good to lose.
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PAMod Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:05 AM
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25. I have the same feeling.
He's young enough to wait, that's for certain. The tough thing will be staying fresh and staying in the recesses of the voter's minds. Just ask Jerry Brown about how hard that is.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 11:54 AM
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30. Brown was stale on delivery in '92
I'm ebarrassed that I was fooled by his fake liberalism then.
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:10 AM
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26. I have said the same thing
He;s not ready right now, though.

He is to 2004 what Al Gore was to the 80s. he will try now, lose in the primaries, and try again in about 12 years....and win.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 11:55 AM
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31. The sooner Edwards is Pres, the sooner he can get on supreme court
and the sooner his wife can become a senator.

He's also 2 years older than clinton was in 91.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:17 AM
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27. Only if he hires Sharpton to craft his message
eskimo
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lams712 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 11:10 AM
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28. I actually voted for Edwards in 1998...
...when I was living in North Carolina from 1995-2001. I think he is very decent man and someone who (and looking at his voting record proves this)is fairly liberal for a southerner. While running in 1998 he ran a populist-type campaign that many working people who normally vote Republican could relate to. He also has a proven track record of fighting corporations. Although he is not my first choice, the Democratic Party could do a lot worse than John Edwards, and I would proudly cast my vote for him if he were the nominee.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:39 PM
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32. Go John


I do like Edwards and would be ecstatic if he won the nom.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 04:31 PM
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37. I'm going to agree with you on one thing...
After seeing him in Thursday's debate, he does have "it." 2004 just isn't his year.

And I wish you'd talk him into not giving up his senate seat.
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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:14 PM
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39. We need him in 2004
He can actually beat GWB. It's the electoral map that matters, nothing else matters. Edwards can do it, so we better hope 2004 is his year.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:31 PM
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41. The resistance to Edwards cracks bit by bit.
In five months, you'll be saying, "I will agree with you on two things now that I've seen him win primaries...he does have "it" and 2004 is his hear." And you'll understand why he gave up the senate seat.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:50 PM
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40. Maybe, but he undercuts his value....
when he goes negative on other candidates.

I like him but I think he needs to be a little
older and more respectful of the other candidates.
He is not the worst at this but he is no saint about
it either.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:33 PM
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42. This one made me laugh out loud.
Yeah, he's one of those disrespectful kids with their floppy hair styles, and their lack of respect for their elders.

And "negative"? I think you could honestly say that he's only directed a negative comment at his fellow candidates maybe three times the ENTIRE campaign (one being the comment about not having faith in Bush directed at Clark, which is probably why you're overreacting, no?).
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 11:00 PM
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43. No, he won't
Maybe a VP spot, but not president now or ever.

He just fails to connect to the people for some reason? I don't know why I think it may be because he is "too pretty", or talks "washingtonese", or doesn't seem to have the portfolio in leadership to wow the masses. I like him what he has to say, his diplomacy, and especially his "too pretty" looks but he just isn't going to be President.

He should not of left the Senate.
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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 12:55 AM
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46. Fails to connect???
The guy won a ton of legal cases before juries in North Carolina. And on the campaign trail, the pundits seem to agree that Edwards' strength is connecting to voters. An example is what one of the questioners said at the Arizona debate:
"Ned Norris Jr., vice chairman of the Tohono O'odham Nation, said that Dean disappointed him and that North Carolina Sen. John Edwards really connected with the audience. Norris was one of 40 undecided Democratic voters who CNN invited to sit in the first three rows of the Orpheum Theatre to quiz the candidates."
<http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/1010debate-side10.html>

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catforclark2004 Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 12:03 AM
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45. Edward may get Attorney General in 2005...
He was an attorney. He would be awsome. Or VP for 2 terms under Clark....then President in 2012!
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