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Fabio Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 11:57 PM
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Judy Woodruff Apologizes
for the "Faxgate" incident today on CNN. I cant find a link to a story, but I saw it with my own eyes.

For the record (and as a Kerry supporter) I was distressed last night with some of what I read here. At the very core, anyone who knows John Kerry knows above all that he is a gentleman. I cant say that for all the players on his staff, but those faxes are common in these forums. Them being read on air is most certainly not.

I was very pleased to watch the apology.

And besides, JK's line about Rush followed by rush's admission today is just too sweet for my ears.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 11:58 PM
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1. What was it?
What did she say about Pigboy?
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Fabio Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:03 AM
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2. I am sorry if unclear
she apologized to the Kerry campaign/Dean campaign/audience for reading the "spin" fax on air. It was a decision that CNN had decided against earlier in the evening.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:03 AM
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3. During the candidates debate last night she interrupted to read a fax.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 09:27 PM
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21. Kerry was talking about the need for prescription drug coverage...
EXCERPT...

...(T)here are two ways for you to have lower prescription drug costs. One is you could hire Rush Limbaugh's housekeeper...

(LAUGHTER)

(APPLAUSE)

... or you can elect me president of the United States.

(LAUGHTER)

I want you to do the latter, and here's why: The prescription drug companies have not been held accountable. And what they're doing is they're playing games with the patents. They'll take a little jar, they'll change the color, there will be the same thing in it, they extend the patent laws.

CONTINUED...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5841-2003Oct9.html

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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:05 AM
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4. I will be happy when CNN fires her
She belongs on Fox.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 07:47 AM
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14. You've got that right.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 09:32 PM
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22. The Right Wing hates her & her hubby.
From our real good friends at ConsortiumNews.com:

THE BUSH EXIT RAMP

EXCERPT...

Remember the scene in 1986 when Bush was miffed about a prediction made by Wall Street Journal political writer Al Hunt that Jack Kemp – not then-Vice President George H.W. Bush – would win the Republican presidential nomination in 1988. At a Dallas restaurant, the younger George Bush spotted Hunt having dinner with his wife, Judy Woodruff, and their four-year-old son.

Bush stormed up to the table and started cursing out Hunt. “You son of a bitch,” Bush yelled. “I saw what you wrote. We’re not going to forget this.”

CONTINUED ...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2003/012203a.html
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 10:14 PM
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23. She very shallow
I was thinking one day last week, watching her just before Crossfire,and thinking , how long will she keep the job..I would have fired her long ago...It got on my nerves, hearing her recite Ahrnolds name every other word, from day one..I agree,if she is't removed CNN, will be another station not taken very seriously.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:14 AM
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5. Now all she has to do is apologize for
Everything else she said during the debate,
for her constant interruptions, for her inexcusable
treatment of the participants, for her bitchy
derisive demeanor, and for being a media whore
for years.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:21 AM
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6. You said it!
lol
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 02:22 AM
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9. My thoughts exactly!

:you rock:
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:26 AM
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7. What show was she on?
I read the transcripts for her show and nothing. Who's show was she on?
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 01:28 AM
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8. She moderated Thursday's debate.
Poorly. I thought she was getting ready to announce her own candidacy.

While I think candidates ought to be grilled, she displayed a number of faults. She interrupted candidates to change the subject before it seemed the alloted time had elapsed. She delivered final negative rebuttals to candidates' answers, often covering new ground, and then moved on to a new candidate. She also seemed to be fixated on "Goreing" candidates by parroting attacks against the candidates. I'm talking about the use of little one-liners that stick in people's minds long after the more detailed, coherent rebuttals are given (as in "no controlling legal authority" "Love Canal" "internet"). It was not just against Clark, but against Dean, Kerry, and Gephardt. At times, she tried to attack the entire field.

Kudos to Clark and Sharpton, among others, who called her on her attacks. I fully expected to look at the panel in the second half and see Bob Novak, Tweety, and Tom Delay asking questions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5841-2003Oct9.html
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 09:20 PM
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20. I meant where did she apologize.
:)
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 02:32 AM
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10. If Kerry is such a gentleman...
then why did he apologize himself? He certainly took advantage of his opportunity to bash Dean and Dean wasn't even given an opportunity to rebut Kerry's last statement.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 05:24 AM
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12. I meant to say...
Why didn't Kerry apologize?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 09:50 AM
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15. Why should he apologize for standard campaign procedures?
EVERY campaign was doing exactly the same thing in the press room, rebutting, clarifying, correcting statements behind the scenes from their perspective.

Judy could have pulled ANY of their faxes - she targeted Kerry.

To say he should apologize is absurd.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 10:16 PM
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24. The Transcript Shows He Acknowledged It And Very Quickly Moved On
WOODRUFF: Senator Kerry, what about that?

KERRY: Well, it's not silly. It's what he did. I mean, it's sad. But he in fact, in order to balance his budget, terminated -- called for the full termination of what was called the V-Script program, and also turned to seniors and made prescription drugs more expensive for them in order to balance the budget.

Now, that's a fact. I didn't raise this, and I didn't know they were saying that, and it's sort of separate from where we were.

What I want to come back to, there are two ways for you to have lower prescription drug costs. One is you could hire Rush Limbaugh's housekeeper...

(LAUGHTER)

(APPLAUSE)

... or you can elect me president of the United States.

(LAUGHTER) I want you to do the latter, and here's why: The prescription drug companies have not been held accountable. And what they're doing is they're playing games with the patents. They'll take a little jar, they'll change the color, there will be the same thing in it, they extend the patent laws.

So they don't put generics into the marketplace.

The pharmacy benefit managers are charging additional money for rebates, kickbacks, all kinds of schemes, almost 16 billions of extra costs.

What we need is a president who is determined to have a Medicare prescription drug benefit; make bulk purchasing available to the states, so Governor Napolitano and others can purchase in bulk but lower costs out to their citizens; and hold the companies accountable on the patent laws so we can put generics in the marketplace.

WOODRUFF: All right. Senator...

KERRY: If we do that, we can lower the costs for all Americans.

---------

Even the transcripts show how she was rude and interrupting during the debates:

KERRY: I believe that if we -- Judy, in answer to your question, and Jeff also: We have to offer Americans real choices. We have to connect to every American about their health care. We are. We have to connect with children and their parents about how we're going to really fix our schools.

We are; they're not. We have to connect with people about how we're going to protect the environment. But it was we Democrats -- I led the fight -- to stop the drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge. I led the fight to stop Newt Gingrich decimating...

WOODRUFF: All right.

KERRY: ... the Clean Air and Clean Water Act, and unfortunately, we haven't taken those issues out to the country enough.

When we take our values out in this race, we're going to win, because I believe we're offering real choices to the American people...

WOODRUFF: All right.

KERRY: ... that make a difference to the quality of their lives.

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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 02:49 AM
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11. A great day for Kerry supporters! And for all of us, really.

It was incredibly tacky of her to read that FAX, though I was not surprised. Nothing that crowd does would surprise me. CNN has become such a joke.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 07:44 AM
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13. Hopefully apology NOT accepted.
This would be a super opportunity for the Dem candidates to blast the corporate media and its allegiance to the repig party. Haven't heard a peep outside of DU unfortunately.
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BushGone04 Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 04:05 PM
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16. Good to see
She screwed both Dean and Kerry with that one. I still don't know why they got her to moderate in the first place.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 05:21 PM
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17. I guess hell will freeze over before she AND CNN
apologize for giving Kucinich 5 minutes of air time, NINE minutes less than the top-time candidates, and THREE minutes less than others.

Come on, Judy, I want to hear you say how all the candidates were to get equal time. Say it again and again. Someone might believe you. But sorry, they watch Fox.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 08:59 PM
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18. Jeff Greenfield's "Dems & Am. values"
Remember the question about "how are the Dems going to convince Am that they represent Am values"?

(What a crock...yeah_like oil-boil-boy represents anyone other than a few billionaire thieves.)

Anyway, the correct answer was/is: until we do something about the f**king corporate media the truth will never set us free. Get it Jeff-I-once-was-RFK's-speech-writer-but-now-I'm-just-a-whore-Greenfield? So Jeffy_when is the media going to tell Am. that the Reps could give a shit about Am values?

BTW, I wrote to all of them...did you? It's never too late.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 09:06 PM
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19. Bobby would be ashamed
He was an RFK speechwritter, well that shouldnt suprise me in that some whores arent all lifelong whores, in fact David Horowitz was once a socialist.
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mndemocrat_29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:55 AM
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25. I used to like Judy Woodruff
But ever since the 2002 elections, I just can't stand watching her. The whole Arnold "election" made me sick, with CNN slobbering all over the Groper.

If CNN were to fire Judy Woodruff (she'd probably head over to Fox), who does everyone think should replace her?
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 02:43 PM
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26. If they would replace
Judy with Candy Crowley, I would never turn on CNN ever again. John King might be OK.
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mndemocrat_29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 02:46 PM
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27. John King is really boring
He has such a deadpan voice, I can't watch whenever he hosts Inside Politics.

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Thomas Jefferson Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 05:33 PM
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28. She needs to apologize for lying about wanting to get positions clear
Dennis was the only candidate who had a plan to get the U.S. out of Iraq and she cut him off because she didn't want him to make the Democrats look good. A couple of kids did a comic about this. Their website it http://mhull.rupa.com

Look at Episode 51.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 05:38 PM
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29. Not So Much A Plan As A Premature Pullout
I love Dennis, but pulling US troops out of there now would be a disaster. Without a doubt, we would be forced back there within 5 years. If we leave now, the country will become a Taliban-like situation with extreme fundamentalists repressing Iraqis worse than Saddam.

Even radical peacenik Howard Dean agrees with that prescription.
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Thomas Jefferson Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 05:51 PM
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30. The election is in 2004. How long should we be paying Halliburton's tab?
The U.N. can handle it and they will gladly do so if we stop the profiteering and agree to allow them to control the contracts. A good slogan would be "No more troops killed for Halliburton." Too bad Dean doesn't agree with that slogan.
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