Oh My! Is it true Kerry only raised 4mil???

[Closer]

Poor guy. I almost feel sorry for him and how fast his campaign has sunk.

Don't have a link yet, but that's what I'm hearing.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

1. Money is everything.

Bow down to mammon.

[JohnKleeb]

3. Its all about green my grandfather always has told me

on both democrats and republicans btw hes a dem. I think hes right sadly.

[GOPBasher]

20. Question about your sig line.

I'm just curious, who's Kleeb? And did s/he really say that?

[JohnKleeb]

21. lol thats fucking me

Thats my quote, isnt it Trumansque. Of course I fucking said that. Who did you think Kleeb was lol. I hate talking about my self in the third person though, but me on the GOP :shrug:, heh. Sorry for my use of fuck I am a regular fucking Harry Truman/ Tommy in Goodfellas lol.

[RobertSeattle]

2. You probably mean in the 3rd quarter

As of June 30, he had raised $16M

http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/summary.asp?ID=N00000245

[Octafish]

4. So Dean has raised a lot of money through false advertising.

"I represent the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party."

Wake up. The guy is a stooge for Wall Street.

[Skwmom]

9. Don't forget the Bush supporters that are donating to Dean

to help him win the primary. Now that would be a really interesting number to know. I have a feeling that we might be shocked at the dollar amount. Rove is trying to pull a "Davis" on us (pick our nominee).

[killbotfactory]

15. ...

:tinfoilhat:

[MrPeepers]

17. Remember

how the GOP was one of the biggest financiers of Ralph Nader's campaign? Same idea...

Peepers

[killbotfactory]

18. Pretty lame conspiracy theory.

Must be a remnant of the "Dean is the next McGovern!" meme. It was untrue then, it's untrue now.

If I was Bush I would be giving to Lieberman.

[MrPeepers]

23. Sounds lame, dosn't it?

Too bad it's true.

Peepers

[killbotfactory]

24. Paranoid Fear-mongering nonsense.

:tinfoilhat:

Conspiracy theories: No proof necessary!

[sfecap]

19. Great!

The rethugs pay to beat themselves.

Excellent!

[LuminousX]

22. Yeah, because everyone has money to throw away

:eyes:

[dsc]

25. I have asked repeatedly

and have been stiffed on each and every occasion for a link which PROVES that contention. Can I have one now?

[Octafish]

29. Here in Michigan, the GOP actually RAN candidates as DEMs.

Like Pruneface Reagan and Nixon the Crook they so worship, the Michigan GOP is into some seriously underhanded stuff. They even entered candidates in Democratic primaries in order to stack the deck for their people. From DU's very own Top 10 Conservative Idiots #69:

The Michigan Republican Party

It's an election year, which could only mean one thing: Republicans are cheating again. From Michigan comes the latest offense from the GOP Dirty Tricks file. It appears that the Michigan GOP has planted eight fake Democratic candidates on this year's primary ballot to challenge legitimate Democratic candidates for state senate. The two public notaries who certified the eight fake candidates work for (surprise!) two Republican state senators. One of the candidates was an 18-year-old kid who was talked into running by a group of Republicans. Apparently he thought he was signing up as a Republican. It appears that the kid filled out the entire form except the space for party affiliation, which had the word "Democrat" scrawled in someone else's handwriting. When the poor kid was asked who talked him into running, all he could come up with was the name "Pete" and a phone number in Lansing, the state capital. Turns out the number was for the Senate Majority Communications Office, which just happens to have a staffer named Pete. (Incidentally, Michigan law forbids the use of government facilities for political work - Whoops!) So, looks like the GOP's been busted for fake candidates in Michigan. Now, if they could only do something about the fake President in the White House.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/02/69.html

Getting back to ex-gov. Moneybag: Not that Ho-Ho is a GOPer, but he's getting money from more than the DEMs. In that week last summer when Newsweek, US News & World Report and TIME featured the guy, each article found pukes who said "Yeah. We sent him money." Their secret was that they sent in amounts under $20 or $25 to prevent their identities from being reported by the campaign. And some think it's a compliment to hear Newt Gingrich say he thinks Ho-Ho can win.

[displacedtexan]

5. don't worry about kerry.

he can write a check for $160 million.
after that, i'm sure the wife might float him a loan.

[Closer]

6. It's sad

he doesn't have the supporters to do that for him though. That's my point.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

33. we'll see what Iowa and NH have to offer for support

it's really the only support that counts right? votes ..remember those?

[revcarol]

7. I'm more worried about his $2000 a plate fundraisers.

Ya go home with those ya come with, and he sure will be beholden to a lot of fat cats,IF he gets the nomination.
If he doesn't get the nomination, he can just be beholden to them in the Senate.

Time to dump this DLC-er.We need to be attacking corporate corruption, not playing the Terry/John game.

[Name removed]

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[revcarol]

11. Somewhere on this board about a week ago was a list of percentages

for every candidate, of those who had contributed $2000. Kerry won with the largest percentage of his contributors contributing the maximum allowable.
About a month ago, there was a list of what the candidates had paid for catering at each event. Kerry won again, with the events looking like a list of five-star hotels.

So, I'm misinformed just because he's finally appealing to the people? A day late and a dollar short is how I see it.

[dajabr]

30. revcarol, if I may...

Kerry with 56% of his donors giving $2000+ (Dean at 16%): http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/donordems.asp?sortby=2

Sortable list of Kerry expendatures (must have been some party at the Boston Sheraton for $60,000!): http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/expend.asp?id=N00000245&cycle=2004

Love that opensecrets.org!

[Skwmom]

10. I recall reading about Dean going to some fat cat fundraisers so

tell me which fat cats Dean will be beholden to? Even though Kerry's not my first choice, I'll take a DLC-er over a Rove handpicked candidate (Dean) any day - especially one that is all packaging, no substance, and talks out of both sides of his mouth. It's critical that we win this years election. To bad Dean can't put the good of the country before his own personal desire to be president as evidenced by the manner in which he is running his dirty "politics as usual" campaign.

[dfong63]

13. dean does have substance

Even though Kerry's not my first choice, I'll take a DLC-er over a Rove handpicked candidate (Dean) any day - especially one that is all packaging, no substance, and talks out of both sides of his mouth.

Dean does have substance, and it's Kerry who talks out of both sides of his mouth - regarding the Iraq war.

To bad Dean can't put the good of the country before his own personal desire to be president as evidenced by the manner in which he is running his dirty "politics as usual" campaign.

Dean's campaign is anything but "politics as usual". and telling the truth about other candidates IS good for the country. denigrating truth-telling as "dirty politics" is a Schwarzenegger talking point.

[MrPeepers]

16. Riiiiiiiight...

I fail to see why people continue to misunderstand Kerry's opinion on Iraq. Welcome to the real world... where not everything is black and white. He voted for the resolution to try to avoid war... where's the talking out of both sides of his mouth?

Who said Dean was telling the truth about the other candidates? Wes Clark was a Republican right before he entered the election my ass. If claiming truth-telling is "dirty politics" is a Schwarzenegger talking point, then I look forward to seeing Dean in the next Terminator movie.

Peepers

[DrFunkenstein]

28. Opposing IWR Is Not The Same As Substance

Dean is Kerry-lite on foreign policy (at best, dangerously wrong at worst).

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[sfecap]

14. I must be a fat cat.

Cool.

[George_Bonanza]

31. Kerry = corporate corruption? Uninformed...

Kerry is the ranking Dem on the Small Business Committee. That means he helps out small businesses over corporations. And he has. Not every DLC member is a corporate dog. Kerry is a DLCer, and Dean is not, yet Dean is to the right of him and has favoured corporations over environmentalists a number of times in Vermont. I don't hate him because of this, but it's hypocritical of you to accuse Kerry of corruption just because he's a DLCer, and then ignore Dean's questionable deeds in Vermont.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

12. I heard a snippet of NPR today

where they were talking about Bush's fundraising, and how he has barely spent any, he will just save it all for the spring when the nominee emerges. And that whichever Dem gets nominated, he/she will probably be close to broke.

(Of course after the convention, I can donate another $2000, as many others can and likely will.)

It was depressing, in any case, to think of how much money Bush is going to throw at the fight. He will buy all the ground troops that we are putting together via grassroots organizing.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

26. I know you are trying to make Kerry supporters feel bad with this thread

and if we supported Kerry because we wanted to hop on a bandwagon, it might work.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

34. That's not possible.

There's obviously no bandwagon to jump on to.

[Meshuga]

27. Too bad there are better candidates than Dean

Who don't really have a good campaign like Dean's.

[Duder]

32. Yup, it seems to be true

'Kerry spent about $7 million, $3 million more than he raised in the quarter. Kerry, one of the more successful Democratic fundraisers earlier this year, saw his cash balance fall from $10.8 million at the end of June to $7.8 million at the end of September.'

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32287-2003Oct15.html