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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:19 AM
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View the new Dean IA / NH ads
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:23 AM
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1. Very nice ads
Go Dean!
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:49 AM
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2. Quicktime page for Mac users
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 10:51 AM by wtmusic
http://www.howarddean.tv/v2/streaming_pages/index_qt.html

Dean is the anti-Gephardt persona. No smiles or pats on the back--let's get down to business.

I love it.
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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:41 PM
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3. Dean...with guns a blazin'
Duck and cover :eyes:
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:42 PM
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4. vicious
:crazy:
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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:24 PM
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6. I thought these were supposed to be negative?
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 11:25 PM by jeter
Jesus. Barbara Bush on Larry King Live was more negative than that.

Anyway, I liked the Iowa ad better than the New Hampshire ad. I opposed the war too. But he can't keep harping on the fact that he, and only he was right and everyone else was wrong. Remember that the majority of Americans supported the war, too. They don't want to be told that they were wrong. He has credibility on the issue. Now he must build a bigger alliance. My criticism of Dean has always been about that. Not that he was wrong on Iraq. It's that he seems to be relaying these messages to the same people who already support him, rather than building onto his base.

That's why I think he's lost his mojo.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:23 PM
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5. Very nice!
I like these ads, very strong and he looks great.
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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:40 PM
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7. These attacks are lame and desparate...
ATTACKS BY FELLOW DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES ON GOVERNOR DEAN

STARTING SEPTEMBER 1

Democrat hopefuls rip chief rival Dean; Kerry, Lieberman turn up heat on front-runner - AP, 9/1

Kerry slams Dean - Boston Globe, 9/1

Democratic White House Hopefuls Focus Attacks On Dean - The Bulletin's Frontrunner, 9/2

Kerry launches campaign, takes aim at Bush, Dean - Seattle Times, 9/3

Kerry Changes Stance, Takes On Dean New Campaign Tactic Highlights Differences Between Candidates - Boston Globe, 9/4

Rivals rip surging Dean - on paper; Democrats blast him in debate handouts - Dallas Morning News, 9/5

Lieberman Leads Attacks On Dean In First Debate - WSJ, 9/5

Dean's Quick Rise Makes Him Target Of His Own Party - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 9/7

Lieberman Criticizes Dean About His Remarks on Israel - NY Sun, 9/8

Taking a risk, Lieberman takes on front-running Dean - AP, 9/9

Edwards Critical of Dean Over Race Remark - AP, 9/10

Lieberman, Kerry rip Dean; Dems turn feisty in 2nd debate - Boston Globe, 9/10

Gephardt rips into Dean on health care - AP, 9/12

Presidential Candidate Congressman Gephardt Unleashed A Stinging Attack On Rival Howard Dean - FOX News, 9/12

Gephardt Attacks Dean on 2 Social Programs - NYT, 9/13

Gephardt accuses Dean of backing GOP policies - Baltimore Sun, 9/13

Gephardt criticizes Dean for past positions - Des Moines Register, 9/13

Gephardt plays hardball with front-runner Dean - Manchester Union Leader, 9/13

Gephardt Shifts Attacks to Dean - WP, 9/13

After Climbing To The Top, Dean Discovers He's A Target Rivals Set Sights On Front-Runner - Boston Globe, 9/14

In A Shift Of Strategy, Kerry Takes On Dean - Boston Globe, 9/14

Gephardt is latest to attack Dean - Chicago Tribune, 9/14

Gephardt Aims At Dean, Linking Him To Gingrich - St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 9/14

Kerry rips Bush but adds Dean hit - AP, 9/15

Gephardt Steps Up Criticism Of Dean, Says He Agreed With 'Gingrich Republicans' - Frontrunner, 9/15

Gephardt: An Attack A Day Keeps The Doctor At Bay? - Hotline, 9/15

Dean becomes a target - Newsday, 9/15

Gephardt Uses Web Site to Criticize Dean - AP, 9/16

Gephardt: Moredeanbashing.com - Hotline, 9/16

Kerry Openly Criticizes Dean's Stance On Tax Cuts For Middle Class Families - Frontrunner, 9/16

Still under attack, Dean goes easy on his rivals - AP, 9/17

Kerry Steps Up Attacks On Dean Over Trade - Frontrunner, 9/23

Kerry Attacks Rival Dean Over Protectionism - NYT, 9/23

Despite interest in Clark, Dean is still top target of other candidates - Philadelphia Inquirer, 9/25

Among the 10, Two Are Tested the Most; Newcomer Clark Avoids Serious Gaffes; Dean Withstands Sharper Challenges - WP, 9/26

10 Democratic rivals debate national woes, attack well-financed Dean and ignore newcomer Clark - Knight-Ridder, 9/26

Democrats spare Clark in his first debate and go after Dean - AP, 9/26

Democratic Candidates Focus Attacks On Dean In Primary Debate - Frontrunner, 9/26

Clark survives debate, as hopefuls target Dean; Candidates' attacks include a comparison to Gingrich - Dallas Morning News, 9/26

Debate Rivals Target Dean - Hartford Courant, 9/26

Debate: All Eyes On The General, All Attacks Aimed At Dean - Hotline, 9/26

Gephardt, Kerry attack Dean over prior views - Washington Times, 9/26

Dean Is Targeted by Rivals - LA Times, 9/26

Bush, Dean under attack in 10-way Democratic debate - Myrtle Beach Sun-News, 9/26

Fellow Dems Diss Dean As Sparks Fly In Debate - NY Post, 9/26

Attacking the Leader; Debate barbs aimed at front-runner Dean - NY Newsday, 9/26

Party unity? The candidates were united, in going after Howard Dean - Phila. Inquirer, 9/26

Dean Takes The Heat From Rivals - Baltimore Sun, 9/26

Clark Debut Doesn't Change Democrats' Focus on Dean - NY Times, 9/27

Democratic rivals target Bush -- and Dean - Salon.com, 9/27

Gephardt attacks Dean Medicare record - AP, 9/29

Democrats: Candidates Criticize Dean's Record On Medicare - American HealthLine, 9/29

Gephardt Compares Dean's Record On Medicare To Gingrich's - Frontrunner, 9/29

Gephardt: Takes His Sparring With Dean To The Sunday Shows - Hotline, 9/29

Attacks on Dean may leave voters dizzy - St. Petersburg Times, 9/29

Dean Rivals Try To Turn His Comments On Key Issues Against Him - Frontrunner, 10/2

Kerry Attacks Dean For Bush Pact - NYT, 10/2

Rivals Target Dean's Blunt Comments - WP, 10/2

Kerry Attacks Dean Over '93 Nuclear Waste Accord - Frontrunner, 10/6

Kerry maintains attacks on Dean over Medicare - DMR, 10/7

Kerry: Still Hammering Away At Dean On Medicare - Hotline, 10/7

Clark, Dean Are Targeted in Debate - LA Times, 10/10

Gephardt roasts Dean on past political moves - Myrtle Beach Sun-News, 10/12

Mutual Threat Unites 2 Rivals Opposing Dean - NYT, 10/12

Gephardt and Kerry unite against Dean - IHT, 10/13

Dean Continues To Draw Fire From Rivals At Des Moines AARP Forum - Frontrunner, 10/16

Other Candidates Again Target Dean; At Iowa Seniors Forum, He Is Chided for Views on Medicare, Bush Tax Cuts - WP, 10/16

'Divers' Dedicated to Dig Dirt on Dean - AP, 10/21

Edwards raps Dean on health plan - Manchester Union Leader, 10/21

Kerry Criticizes Dean Oversight of Vermont Egg Farm - AP, 10/22


http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/001964.html#more

Hmmm...

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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:25 AM
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8. But Dean referred to them as "Bush-Lite"
for supporting Bush. :eyes:
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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:31 AM
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9. Doesn't matter...
Only the "annointed & Entitled" Ones get to critisize.

Remember, they earned it in the 1980's... :eyes:
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:37 AM
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12. lol
you do realize I was being sarcastic, right? :D
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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:39 AM
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13. Uh-Huh
B-)
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:32 AM
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10. the only one who should've been offended by that is Lieberman…
Edited on Fri Oct-24-03 12:33 AM by pruner
after all, if Kerry & Edwards & Gephardt are Bush-Lite, he should be referred to as no less than Bush-Medium.

:nuke:
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:33 AM
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11. The horrors
Those ads were so negative I had to take a shower in boiling water before I could clean the slime off me. The way he named his opponents and called them vile. Gee how harsh could he be? That is it, I can't deal with the negativity.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 06:01 AM
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14. Anyone who thinnks these are attacks ads,
needs to come down here and watch the Fletcher/Chandler ad/counter ad fights here in KY. Tweety even giggled and said these were not REALLY attack ads last night.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:00 PM
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15. With the N.H. ad, Dean seems to be pinning his whole strategy on Iraq
I have to question the wisdom of this. He's putting himself, (and Democrats), in the position of almost hoping that the situation there stays terrible and doesn't improve. Also, at what point does "opposing" the war translate into "opposing" our troops? This is surely the spin the Bush campaign will put on it. This sort of rhetoric may help Dean get the nomination, but I believe it will hurt him, and badly, in a national campaign.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:58 PM
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16. I think this is in response
to his toughest competition there Kerry, The main thing holding kerry back imho is his support for IWR. Had he not made that vote I think he would probably be much more competative than he is now. In NH kerry is the main ciompetition, hence the Iraq add. In Iowa its ghep hence the health care add.

These adds are targeting his main competitions weaknesses nothing more.

They are hardly definining all of his policies. plenty of time between now and november next year to get all of your policies on the table. the important thing is to win all the little battles between now and then.

These adds are attempts to take the battle to his main oponents in said states. If they work or not remains to be seen.
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