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DoraFan Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:15 PM
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GOP leading 2 of 3 Governors races a week out, within MOE on other
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 03:41 PM by DoraFan
Kentucky Gov. Race - Republican Cong. Fletcher Leads

http://www.courier-journal.com/localnews/2003/10/26ky/wir-front-poll1026-11158.html


Mississippi - Barbour pulls ahead

http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0310/26/m01.html


Louisiana - GOP candidate Jindal pulls into dead heat

http://www.nola.com/elections/t-p/index.ssf?/base/news-0/106697684350470.xml



If, as it appears very possible, the GOP does win the 3 upcoming Governors races, how long before we finnaly tell Terry McAuliffe to pack his bags and get the hell out.

We have done nothing but suffered loss after loss after loss with Terry at the helm.

Terrible Terry as I call him needs to be ousted.
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:17 PM
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1. come on, these are solid repug states
it doesn't make a difference because we have no chance to win any of those states in 04.
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Marlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:22 PM
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2. Still, this is not good news...
I know the guy running against Barbour is the democratic sitting
governor and he may be outed. What the hell is wrong with the
American people - are things better now than they were four years
ago down South? When will they wake up? This is absolutely
depressing news.
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DoraFan Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:23 PM
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3. Solid GOP
Solid GOP or not, which LA is not, with the way things are, victory should be far easier than it ever has been in the past.

The GOP was able to get victories in places they had never won an election in 140+ years last year.

Terry has to go. Honestly, what benefit has he brought to the party outside of fundraising, which has not translated into electoral victories.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:27 PM
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4. Blanco should be pulling ahead in Louisiana!!!!
:wtf:???

The total Democratic Primary vote was 58% percent!!! What's going on here! I would expect her to win 55%!!!

Unfortunatly, Kentucky seems to be blaming Mr. Chandler for Gov. Patton's personal problems! Again, :wtf: is going on here????

This is very sad! Remember, Democrat's picked up the Wyoming governorship last fall! So again I ask, :wtf: is going on here???
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 06:34 PM
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24. 4 years ago Democrats were elected Governor of 2 of these states
I wouldn't call that solidly Republican.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:37 PM
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36. Kentucy is not a solidly Repub State
Kentucky has started leaning Republican but as we have done with all southern States--we have given Republicans free reign. We have abandaoned Democrats in the South. Transplanted southerner.

Pure and simple at this moment Ralph Reed is organizing every
precinct throughout the US. Do we have an organizer whose job it is to to organize the states all the way down to the precinct level.?
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nonews Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:27 PM
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5. Terry Boy!
He needs to go along with all of the Clinton influence--Fresh start is of upmost necessity with the Dems for 2004; not the same old sh-t!
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:33 PM
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6. You need to study up and learn a bit how the Democratic Party works
If anyone needs to be held accountable, it should be those state party chairs. Winning state positions falls on the state party, not the national party.

You would have known this had you learned something.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:35 PM
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7. In 2001, Warner and McGreevy won in the shadow of....
a post 9/11 Bush!!! Bush is not so popular anymore!

:wtf: is going on???
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:39 PM
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9. Ancient history.
There has been an election since then and he didn't do so badly (picking up seats in both houses and outperforming the expected Gov "line").

These races are important because we spun the last off-year elections as predicters of the 2002 elections. If the GOP sweeps these three (picking up two) races, they will spin it as great news for 2004.
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DoraFan Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:12 PM
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19. Picking up seats
In what election under Terrys guidance did we pick up seats in both houses? Or are you talking about state houses?
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:26 PM
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26. "He" in this case is Shrubbie (unfortunately)
Terry has had no substantial success. It has been downHill since he took over.
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DoraFan Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:39 PM
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10. Ya
Terry never hands down directives to the states from up on high.

His strategy, which he forced upon California of trying to keep any democrat from running on the 2nd part of the ballot worked great didn't it.
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:42 PM
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13. "Works" may be a bit of a stretch these days.
Terry McAwful has been nothing but a disaster for us.

I still don't understand why he wasn't gone after 2002.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:54 PM
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22. sorry, I don't agree with you, his counterpart in the repugs
is very busy (and so is rove) in state politics. and it pays off for them, terry needs to go, we need a james carville running that spot, create a new one for terry, but it's obvious that he doesn't have a clue.

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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:36 PM
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8. Miss-titled
Jindal is not ahead, so the "GOP" is not "leading all 3... races a week out"
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DoraFan Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:40 PM
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11. You are correct
I screwed up the title. I should have said "Leading 2 of 3". How do I change it?
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DoraFan Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:41 PM
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12. Fixed it
Figured it out and fixed it. Thanks
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:46 PM
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14. The title bears a striking resemblance to a Freeper article...
... in their "politics" section.

Give your low post count it is now incumbent upon you to say three mean things about Shrub.

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DoraFan Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:53 PM
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17. Only 3?
Geez, you set the bar so low.
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:30 PM
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27. Bye Bye
I warned you. RIP freeper
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:44 PM
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:56 PM
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29. Not at all.
I never hit abuse. I get hit for being too far right myself (for being slightly to the right of Stalin I guess).

I merely pointed out that with so few posts (a dozen at the time) and a thread which was titled verbatim from a Freeper thread posted an hour before...(s)he didn't look like (s)he would last very long. I joked that (s)he should now slamm Shrub to boost credibility if in fact (s)he was a real Democrat who picked the wrong thread to kick off with.

Then (s)he showed her true colors on another thread and went whole hog conservative. But (s)he was gone before I said goodbye.

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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:49 PM
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15. if Dems lose 3/3 or even 2/3
the press will have a field day along with the California recall. Lets hope we can pull off La and Mississippi, both are dependent on a big turnout of African-Americans--I just wonder if Blanco or Musgrove have given them any reason to really vote for them? I think Ky is looking increasingly bad becuz of the unpopularity of the Patton administration.
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:51 PM
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16. Yes. Add California and possibly Philly mayoral race...
...and it will be hard to spin this as a sign Bush is weak.
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peaceandjustice Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:55 AM
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31. the Philly race looks good
THe Inquirer had Street leading in both polls and funding a couple days ago, and it may hurt Bush nationally (hell it may finally be his Watergate) if the FBI bug in Street's office was solely politically motivated.
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:39 AM
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32. This is what we call "political wishful thinking"
There doesn't seem to be any evidence one way or the other that the bug was politically motivated. It does seem that there is some criminal acticvity going on in Philly (though not necessarily at Street's level).

By "political wishful thinking", I mean that everyone assumes "the other team is crooked" and therefore, when a Democrat is bugged it MUST be political. You should read the posts here from the time the bug was found, but before the feds hinted it was them doing it.

In short, a lack of evidence does not permit the assumption of the most politically damaging "truth". Remember that we have some crooks on our side too. This amy be one of them. I don't intend to "go down with the ship" defending him if he is guilty of something.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 04:23 PM
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33. I'm unsure whether the bugging was politically motivated
However, the widespread perception that it was is clearly helping Street in the election.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 05:09 PM
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34. yeah it is
nt
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peaceandjustice Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 07:59 AM
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38. I said "if"
Maybe it wasn't. Maybe they really did need to bug Street's office even though the FBI's already conceded that Street is not a suspect in anything.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:08 PM
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18. KY is gone
nt
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:51 PM
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20. thank you, his ass needs to go.
.
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mndemocrat_29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:51 PM
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21. Other races
Kentucky-The poll does say that Stumbo (D) is winning, and that the Auditor's race is within the margin of error. Does anyone know how the Sec. of State, Treasurer, and Ag. Commissioner are doing? Alice Baesler, wife of For. Rep. Scotty Baesler is running for Ag. Commissioner. Jonathan Miller, the only incumbent running in Kentucky, should be safe.

Mississippi-The poll shows that Barbara Blackmon is trailing Amy Tuck. WE NEED TO WIN THIS ONE! I know it will be tough, but we need to try and pull this off. Sec. of State Erick Clark should win reelection, as should incumbents Dale and Spell. Does anyone know about the Treaurer and Atty. Gens. races are going?

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pezcore64 Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 12:50 AM
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30. ....
Unfortunately I dont know the status of the said offices you asked, but I do know one thing. If Fletcher wins the Governorship, it'll be the first time in 32 years a non-democrat has held the office! It must be stopped! I cant believe people see Chandler and Patton as the same person! I think we all agree we need some change in the state, but a change in the person, not the party!
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 05:10 PM
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35. KY is gone
Unless something really happens over the weekend I see Flecther winning.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 05:03 PM
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23. But in good news, Utah might go Dem next year.........
Scott Matheson Jr is running, son of Utah's most popular governor. So hell, we'll have to wait and see what happens.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 06:40 PM
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:43 PM
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37. Why not blame McAuliffe for the weather while you're at it?
McAuliffe isn't on the ballot in any of these states, and I'd be surprised if more than 2% of the voters even know who the hell he is.

I have a simple question for you -- what exactly should Terry McAuliffe be doing that would, in your opinion, make the difference in Missippi, Kentucky and Louisiana -- all states that have been trending Republican for decades.
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