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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 12:38 PM
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Questions about the timing and mechanics of the primary process
Can someone provide or point me to information on the dates of the primaries, how many delegates are at stake in each one, how many total delegates a candidate needs to gain to win outright, and which states (if any) split their delegates versus which ones are winner-take-all? Thanks in advance,

PP
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:20 PM
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1. Check out
Edited on Wed Oct-29-03 01:31 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
http://www.politics1.com/calendar.htm for a good calendar... lots of other good info on that site. All states award delegates proportionally in the Dem primaries, Repub is winner-take-all. 2,161 delegates are needed for the nomination.

Also check out goobergunch's website for some interesting stuff:
http://www.freewebs.com/goobergunch/gpr.html


Per state delegate count? I haven't found one. Anybody?
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 01:43 PM
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2. Thanks!
saw Goobergunch's site already, but I like the calendar.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 08:58 PM
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3. Kick because I hope someone can point to a per-state delegate count
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 09:07 PM
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4. Here's some information
Sadly incomplete, but I haven't been able to find data for every state yet.

Alabama http://www.aladems.org/delegateselection.pdf
Arizona http://www.azdem.org/election/delegates/The%20Model%20Plan%202004.pdf
Arkansas http://www.arkdems.org/plan/Arkansas%20Delegate%20Selection%20Plan%20-%201st%20Draft.doc
California http://www.ca-dem.org/delegate_info_2004.php
Colorado http://www.coloradodems.org/2004%20Delegate%20Selection%20Plan.pdf
Connecticut http://www.dems.info/Articles/TheModelPlan.doc
Delaware http://www.deldems.org/De-DelegatePlan-2004.pdf
Florida http://www.fladems.com/docs/2004DNCDelegateSelPlan.pdf
Hawaii http://www.hawaiidemocrats.org/Documents/Hawaii%20DSP%202004.doc
Idaho http://www.idaho-democrats.org/content/The_Model_Plan.pdf
Illinois http://www.ildems.org/delegateplan2004.doc
Iowa http://www.iowademocrats.org/filemgmt/visit.php?lid=9
Maine http://207.21.240.115/mdp/2004_delegateselectionplan.pdf
Maryland http://www.mddems.org/MD_Delegate_Selection_Plan.pdf
Massachusetts http://www.massdems.org/body/plan.htm
Michigan http://www.mi-democrats.com/content/2004%20DSP%20Summary.htm
Missouri http://66.241.237.166/www/The%20Missouri%20Delegate%20Selection%20Plan%20MOST%20RECENT.pdf
Montana http://www.mtdemocrats.org/images/pdfs/delegateselectionplan.pdf
New Hampshire http://www.nhdp.org/model.pdf
New Jersey http://www.njdems.org/PDF/2004%20Delegate%20Selection%20Plan.pdf
New Mexico http://www.dpnm.org/vertical/Sites/{6F24BE72-13E5-4CA6-B483-E3D9278E35A1}/uploads/{800EB994-CDD8-45C9-B461-A31FEC5E517F}.PDF
New York http://www.nydems.org/news/archive/2003_09_000083.html
North Carolina http://www.ncdp.org/PDF/delegate.pdf
North Dakota http://www.demnpl.com/vertical/Sites/{69334758-1697-4DC0-A998-EAD4B0C11D10}/uploads/{4F886F7F-EA2E-42B3-A6AA-B340B0E1870A}.DOC
Ohio http://www.ohiodems.org/ncenter.htm
Oregon http://www.dpo.org/news/documents/1666.pdf
Pennsylvania http://www.padems.com/delegateselectionplan1.pdf
Tennessee http://www.tndp.org/getinvolved/04primary/04delegates.pdf
Texas http://www.txdemocrats.org/IssuesPlatforms/2004reviseddelegationplan.pdf
Utah http://www.utdemocrats.org/04UTPLAN.pdf
Washington http://www.wa-democrats.org/delegateselectionplan.pdf

I'll put these links up on the website this weekend.

Thanks for the plug! :loveya:
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 03:14 PM
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5. OK, I think I found the answer at vote-smart.org
According to this page, http://www.vote-smart.org/election_president_how_primary_works.php, the delegates in Democratic primaries are awarded proportionally (and delegates in caucuses are usually awarded proportionally). The Republican party allows states to use winner-takes-all schemes.

The list of delegates per state should be the same as the number of electoral votes the state has in the general. These can be found here: http://www.vote-smart.org/election_president_electoral_college.php

The dates are listed here: http://www.vote-smart.org/election_president_state_primary_dates.php

The only thing I don't know is the number of delegates which one candidate would need to "sew up" the nomination, so that it didn't have to go to the floor. Would it be 270, the same as winning an outright majority?

PP
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 04:22 PM
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6. A majority of delegates are needed
therefore the number is 2160.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P04/D.phtml
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 04:30 PM
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7. Here is my question.
If delegates are awarded proportionately, what happens to the delegates for say Lieberman or Sharpton or whomever? Does the person with a simple majority win the nomination or is it like a caucus? Could the delegates for one candidate decide to support another candidate to defeat the person with the initial majority.
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