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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 01:47 AM
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Rep. Scott to endorse Dean for Democratic presidential nominee
BY PETER HARDIN
TIMES-DISPATCH WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT Dec 7, 2003


WASHINGTON - Rep. Robert C. Scott, a Newport News Democrat and Virginia's lone black member of Congress, was expected to endorse former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean today for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Scott was expected to back Dean at a campaign event for the New Englander in Hampton Roads, according to informed Democratic sources.

The 3rd District lawmaker would become the second Virginian in Congress to back Dean. Rep. Jim Moran, D-8th, endorsed Dean several weeks ago at the presidential candidate's 55th birthday party at a Washington restaurant and brewery.


More: http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD%2FMGArticle%2FRTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031772490371&path=!news&s=1045855934842

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artr2 Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 01:51 AM
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1. Good News for Dean
As he continues to pick up endorsements
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huckleberry Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 01:51 AM
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2. Bobby Scott endorses Dean! Great news!!!
Thanks for posting!
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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 02:18 AM
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9. No prob, huckleberry!
Love it when all our hard work pays off with great results!

:toast:
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Dagaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 01:53 AM
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3. Another vote for McGovern
Edited on Sun Dec-07-03 01:56 AM by frisco
I have a serious question here. are Dean voters prepared to go down in a cloud of dust or are they so uninformed that they think Dean can win? If this is ideology I can respect that but I'm more of the pragmatic view that I'd rather win.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 01:55 AM
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4. mcgovern was a military vet you know
and he lost to a guy who pledged to end the vietnam war.
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Dagaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 02:01 AM
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5. So Nixon was the peacenik here?
Edited on Sun Dec-07-03 02:02 AM by frisco
Americans want a President to support the Troops and late in the Viet Nam war that meant bringing draftees home. Dean is out there saying that the volunteer troops are fighting for nothing but most people (including me) think that Terrorism is a serious threat. Dean saying that it isn't means he's going to get creamed.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 02:11 AM
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8. umm tell me where dean says terrorism is not a serious threat?
Edited on Sun Dec-07-03 02:12 AM by darboy
He is saying that Iraq is not the place to spend resources if you are trying to stop terrorism.

Dean wants to confront Saudi Arabia about its support of terror, which Bush will not do.

Dean wants to negotiate with North Korea to make sure they do not become a nuclear power, which bush won't do.

Dean supported the Afghan conflict because he felt they were harboring OBL.

Dean believes that stopping palestinian terrorism is key to winning the peace in Israel.

Dean wants an alternative energy policy so the US will stop sending oil money to countries that support terror, including Saudi Arabia.

Dean supports the troops, what bothers him is that Bush lied about why they went to Iraq. Dean believes the best way to support the troops is to tell them the truth about why they're there.

Dean condemned bush for cutting veterans benefits and combat pay.



As for Nixon, he won on "Peace with Dignity" not "lets kill em all!"
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 02:03 AM
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6. If you were really pragmatic, you would be in our camp
I think starstruck probably fits you better than pragmatic.
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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 02:19 AM
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10. You mean epaulet - struck...
Don't you? :-)
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 02:03 AM
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7. Me? Well I'm so uninformed, naturally
:puke:

Dean CAN win, and only a blind person isn't willing to admit that.
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:10 PM
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14. One More Time
Listen all! Dean supporters don't think he can win we know he will. We are not stupid. We want B**** gone more then anything and we think Dean has the best chanch to get it done. Were serious and are working hard to advance Dean and beat B*** back to Texas. If Dean fails to get the nomination we will back the winner. We do, yes we do, we absolutly do, think Dean will win. Not intended to offend anyone just a statement of truth.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:12 PM
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15. Yes. If Dean loses the General Election, I will accept the responsibility
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:34 AM
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11. I sense a V.P. in the making...
I've always liked Scott, and I think he would make an excellent running mate for Dean. He could even open some doorways for Dean in some of the more moderate Southern states by energizing black voter turnout.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:37 AM
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12. Another African American for Dean
Apperently Al Sharpton was one of the few African Americans who was offended by confederate flag flap.
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scotia Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 06:46 AM
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13. Molly Ivins, Syndicated Columnist endorses HOWARD DEAN
Howard Dean's a Winner


By: Molly Ivins
Syndicated Columnist

AUSTIN, Texas -- No one has been waiting with bated breath for me to make up my mind about the Democratic presidential candidates, but I have, and you might be interested in how I got there. I'm for Howard Dean -- because he's going to win.

It is the bounden duty of bleeding-heart liberals like myself to make our political choices based on purity of heart, nobility of character, depth of compassion, sterling integrity and generosity of spirit. The concept of actually winning a political race does not, traditionally, influence the bleeding heart liberal one iota -- certainly not in the primaries.

Over the years, I have proudly voted for a list of losers only a lily-pure liberal could love. I am rather surprised not to find myself in the camp of the Noble Dennis Kucinich this year. (And believe me, there are supporters of the Noble Dennis who are plenty upset about it, too.) In fact, I initially passed on Dean precisely because he looked like one of my usual losers -- 2 percent in the polls and the full weight of Vermont behind him ... wow, my kind of guy.

Having concluded that this was the year to Be Sensible, look for a winner, find a moderate, and all that good stuff the expert political players do, I carefully studied the conventional wisdom. The conventional wisdom -- the avatar of all political knowledge, the Washington, D.C., press corps -- said John Kerry was the man. So despite his resemblance to the finer products of the taxidermist's art, I sat around waiting for him to show signs of life. And waited.

Next, I consulted my buddies in the union movement, and they said Dick Gephardt was the man. I always like a labor liberal, and Gephardt's eyebrows have improved. I was hopeful for while, but concluded, as many do, that while Gephardt is Perfectly Good as a Democratic candidate, he ain't settin' the world on fire. Doesn't seem like a good year for a regular politician on account of we ain't lookin' at regular politics. These Republicans do not have a different strategy -- they are playing a different game. They don't want to govern, they want to rule.

Next, my lawyer friends recommended John Edwards, and even though my first impression was, "Too pretty, too light," I liked him better as time went on. Good strong populist streak to him, some good economic ideas, goes right after Bush on the economy. But conventional wisdom decided he is too young and untried.

Then along came Gen. Wesley Clark, and lots of people were excited. But I never have thought anyone should start in politics at the top. All those rich guys who run for office want to start at governor or senator, instead of running for the school board. Arnold Schwarzenegger aside, it's really not as easy as it looks.

Meanwhile, there's old Dean, causin' excitement. I went up to Vermont and talked to a bunch of liberals there. They all said Howard Dean is no liberal. Funny, that's what Howard Dean says, too. And indeed, he isn't, but in politics, everything's relative. The conventional wisdom first dismissed Howard Dean (the man has never been to a Washington dinner party!), then condescended to him, then graciously offered him instruction on how he should be running his campaign -- which seemed to be going along quite well without their input.

I talked to some big money guys who assured me Dean Can't Win. But of course I'm noticing this interesting thing: Dean has so much money he actually turned down public campaign financing (since I'm a card-carrying liberal, I was naturally deeply unhappy over this. But since Dean's money comes from Real People instead of corporate special interests, I'm not that unhappy.) Let me second the notion that this year, the Internet is to politics what television was in the 1960 Kennedy-Nixon race.

For a while, I fretted over Dean being angry, or at least appealing to the political anger that is normally manipulated by right-wing radio jocks. Anger makes liberals uncomfortable: We prefer peace, reason and gentle persuasion. Beloveds, it is way past time for us to get mad -- social, economic and political justice are being perverted by the Bush administration.

Dean gives a hell of a speech -- even if you're Republican, you should go and hear him just for the experience. But I fretted about Dean on TV -- TV is so important. How could anyone poker up on Margaret Carlson of PBS, not one of the world's toughest interviewers? But then I saw Dean laugh his way through a Chris Matthews interview (which he should have done with Tim Russert, who was hell-bent on gotcha questions), and I know the guy can take care of himself. So he fights back if you get in his face -- that's not all bad.

I know, he's even less of a liberal than Bill Clinton was, but I don't think Dean is a moderate centrist. I think he's a fighting centrist. And folks, I think we have got ourselves a winner here.


http://www.democrats.us/editorial/ivins120503.shtml
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